KodiPvP, how does he do it?

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

Gan Xing wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

I got 1vX'd by Kodi just the other day... I was fighting/evading a small group of magsorc curse/fury spammers and rolled around the corner of a wall heading into a resource where Kodi's Dk had a handful of derpies beating on him... He saw me and 3-shot me before I could even break free from Dizzying Swing.

That's where I'm usually scratching my head - the dizzy/ult/execute ani-cancel combo. I've run high damage builds with that combo and it's rarely enough for me to kill decent players because they can usually break free and roll before I can land the execute, yet the Kodi's and Fengrush's of the world somehow do it 1000% faster than I ever could. And my latency is normally only ~130-150 in Cyro.

It's somewhat obvious what they are doing.

The question you need to really ask is why is it that their "combo" (achieved by one press) seems to be nearly undodgeable and why it can hit you in the middle of a dodge roll.

Furthermore... if you play on ps4 and have never encountered people... how would you know anything past listening to them posture, brag and preen about themselves (while savaging all opponents with dull wit)?

What I wonder is if their slander and insults in twitch are a tos violation being it's being done in game but said in twitch?

Dawnbreaker of Smiting hits when you roll dodge. Sypher has used it on me many times, and yet when I attempt to use DoS on him, nothing (and no, he isn't cc immune)

Happens all the time with certain players... You might note that when it happens it won't say dodge in the combat log, it will be as if your dawnbreaker didn't exist because they rock.

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

StackonClown wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

"Macro hacks and lag switches" - DC zone chat pugs.

**note: this is not a reflection on Kodi - whoever he or she is

I remember more than once in PVP getting ganked by the same cheesefanboi and it was always hitting multi attacks at once with no time to react and *alway* the same sequence of attacks/abilities, 6 or 7 of them - about 10 times

btw what are macro's and lag switches?

Let's just say it's a bar swap and it's likely macroed that does that...

A lag switch is just an artificial delay added to your tcp connection. You can probably buy one on amazon... A physical cut off switch for your ethernet.

A once famous nightblade used to use a script that access the page file in some way, what you would see was heavy attack, heavy attack, ambush, executioner at once. He was defended by all the usual suspects here and lauded as a great player.

StackonClown · June 2017

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

StackonClown wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

"Macro hacks and lag switches" - DC zone chat pugs.

**note: this is not a reflection on Kodi - whoever he or she is

I remember more than once in PVP getting ganked by the same cheesefanboi and it was always hitting multi attacks at once with no time to react and *alway* the same sequence of attacks/abilities, 6 or 7 of them - about 10 times

btw what are macro's and lag switches?

Let's just say it's a bar swap and it's likely macroed that does that...

A lag switch is just an artificial delay added to your tcp connection. You can probably buy one on amazon... A physical cut off switch for your ethernet.

A once famous nightblade used to use a script that access the page file in some way, what you would see was heavy attack, heavy attack, ambush, executioner at once. He was defended by all the usual suspects here and lauded as a great player.

Thanks for a simple explanation - suddenly that explains a *LOT* of what i have observed in PVP

As for:

"Dawnbreaker of Smiting hits when you roll dodge. <whoever fanboi> has used it on me many times, and yet when I attempt to use DoS on him, nothing (and no, he isn't cc immune)"

The other thing i find interesting is how some players seem to be able to dodge almost everything - so it seems like they are un-attackable. Yet they unleash a tsunami of attacks on multiple players and apparently dont have any special focus on dodge related gear or abilities.. Yes yes - i know: years of practice, amazing cancelling, amazing anticipation, amazing running around trees and rocks.

But maybe things have changed a bit in morrowwind ?

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

Dawnbreaker is a frontal cone Aoe so it's undodgeable, it leaves a ground based aoe for the dot which is also undodgeable.

Regardless of all that, I see quite a few of the usual suspects take zero damage from it even though as far as you can tell you are right on them and they are right in it.

I will point out one little thing... positions in game are not always what you see. Players moving at speed are often not accurately positioned for you... players in invis or stealth are also not always where you "perceive" them. Hence the many stealth->gap closer warping or super fast zoom from out of nowhere (and from your perception way out of critical charge range). Quickly invising nightblade doing a heavy attack into cloak show as only a heavy attack (usually fire) animation only and it's rarely from where they actually are.

That's all without exploits... and can explain quite a few things. Problem is, with those problems, it can exasperated by using any sort of lag switch.

There is all sorts of other crap as well... like players that somehow can make themselves positionally (to you) under the game world. What you will see is your animations speeded... and nothing can connect. I suspect that many of the major league tree huggers aren't just hugging trees, there is more to it as even when you do get position (or so you think) on them you still can't hit them.

But... don't worry. All these things, among the half a dozen or so other things mentioned somewhere in this thread, are easily denied and any and all concerns you might have can easily be meme'd with something claiming you get 1vxed or claiming you need to git gud.

StackonClown · June 2017

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Dawnbreaker is a frontal cone Aoe so it's undodgeable, it leaves a ground based aoe for the dot which is also undodgeable.

Regardless of all that, I see quite a few of the usual suspects take zero damage from it even though as far as you can tell you are right on them and they are right in it.

I will point out one little thing... positions in game are not always what you see. Players moving at speed are often not accurately positioned for you... players in invis or stealth are also not always where you "perceive" them. Hence the many stealth->gap closer warping or super fast zoom from out of nowhere (and from your perception way out of critical charge range). Quickly invising nightblade doing a heavy attack into cloak show as only a heavy attack (usually fire) animation only and it's rarely from where they actually are.

That's all without exploits... and can explain quite a few things. Problem is, with those problems, it can exasperated by using any sort of lag switch.

There is all sorts of other crap as well... like players that somehow can make themselves positionally (to you) under the game world. What you will see is your animations speeded... and nothing can connect. I suspect that many of the major league tree huggers aren't just hugging trees, there is more to it as even when you do get position (or so you think) on them you still can't hit them.

But... don't worry. All these things, among the half a dozen or so other things mentioned somewhere in this thread, are easily denied and any and all concerns you might have can easily be meme'd with something claiming you get 1vxed or claiming you need to git gud.

interesting insights - i hear lag switch is also an issue on some console games..

Synozeer · June 2017

Dawnbreaker is dodgeable since the patch. Tested it myself. Supposedly it was considered magical AOE but it got changed to physical (and thus dodgeable)

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

StackonClown wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Dawnbreaker is a frontal cone Aoe so it's undodgeable, it leaves a ground based aoe for the dot which is also undodgeable.

Regardless of all that, I see quite a few of the usual suspects take zero damage from it even though as far as you can tell you are right on them and they are right in it.

I will point out one little thing... positions in game are not always what you see. Players moving at speed are often not accurately positioned for you... players in invis or stealth are also not always where you "perceive" them. Hence the many stealth->gap closer warping or super fast zoom from out of nowhere (and from your perception way out of critical charge range). Quickly invising nightblade doing a heavy attack into cloak show as only a heavy attack (usually fire) animation only and it's rarely from where they actually are.

That's all without exploits... and can explain quite a few things. Problem is, with those problems, it can exasperated by using any sort of lag switch.

There is all sorts of other crap as well... like players that somehow can make themselves positionally (to you) under the game world. What you will see is your animations speeded... and nothing can connect. I suspect that many of the major league tree huggers aren't just hugging trees, there is more to it as even when you do get position (or so you think) on them you still can't hit them.

But... don't worry. All these things, among the half a dozen or so other things mentioned somewhere in this thread, are easily denied and any and all concerns you might have can easily be meme'd with something claiming you get 1vxed or claiming you need to git gud.

interesting insights - i hear lag switch is also an issue on some console games..

You can literally add a toggle switch to an Ethernet cable.

It's not an eso issue, it's an online gaming issue that has been around a long time.

Oddly enough there was a way to create a lag burst in much the same fashion in eso by merely pressing PrtScn. Obviously it could be macroed (and who knows I assume it was fixed, but who knows). This was abused by sorcs using bolt escape/streak to fly through the air... but was obviously also being used (and like I said, could still be) with "burst combos".

As said earlier in the thread... certain players have "an ability" to combo right through dodge rolls (all while dodging everything themselves).

A self proclaimed "lord" uses this crap extensively. The defenders will always say "a streamer can't cheat", but there are a number of things that they can do that won't be evident... and being none ever show their hands, you just see people that did counter them getting gibbed because you can't dodge their attacks. It's very easy to blame Wrobel for macroslice, but it's likely something they are doing to cause it.

I challenge any of the so called elite streamers to set that camera back a bit so we can see their hands and see how dominant they are when we can clearly see what they are doing.

TBois · June 2017

Played against a couple of streamers mentioned in this thread in battlegrounds last night. I saw no evidence of cheating, they were able to be killed and they lost the match. Does that mean I'm cheating too?

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

Synozeer wrote: »

Dawnbreaker is dodgeable since the patch. Tested it myself. Supposedly it was considered magical AOE but it got changed to physical (and thus dodgeable)

interesting, good to know. Is flawless the magical damage version or are they both physical now? If so, is that still undodgeable?

Regardless, when it was supposed to (or intended to) be an undodgeable attack there were players that would flat out make it miss. That's no [internet mma fighter] dodges dawnbreaker, or absorbs, or misses or blocks or anything in combat log. Just nothing... as if their excellence made your dawnbreaker disappear.

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

TBois wrote: »

Played against a couple of streamers mentioned in this thread in battlegrounds last night. I saw no evidence of cheating, they were able to be killed and they lost the match. Does that mean I'm cheating too?

That's like saying I dueled [internet mma fighter] and he doesn't cheat.

I would be wary of doing anything in bgs right now because the attention of ZOS is going to be there.

TBois · June 2017

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

Played against a couple of streamers mentioned in this thread in battlegrounds last night. I saw no evidence of cheating, they were able to be killed and they lost the match. Does that mean I'm cheating too?

That's like saying I dueled [internet mma fighter] and he doesn't cheat.

I would be wary of doing anything in bgs right now because the attention of ZOS is going to be there.

I don't believe cheating is as widespread as you believe. I don't have good evidence to back up my argument, just like you don't have good evidence to prove poeple are cheating. Now i would say cheating using in game exploits has been more prominent then the lag switches and non server side adjustments you have been describing. Are these cheating methods really that prominent, and do you have more proof of others cheating? Or how would I go about finding out if other players are cheating? There are some odd things like animation cancelling dawnbreaker and combat bugs that happen, but I have never seen them happen consistently against the same player, even these streamers you accuse.

For background i have been playing since a couple of weeks after release, and there have been maybe 3 people that I have expected of cheating to the point where I felt I didn't need any other evidence then what I say facing them. I don't see those people in cyro anymore. I play solo to medium sized groups (16 man group).

Rianai · June 2017

I think, the biggest issue is, that the game seems pretty buggy and sometimes it can be impossible to tell, if something is caused/exploited intentionally or not. Especially as an inexperienced player. Personally i'm pretty sure, most if not all "fishy" things i encounter are just unavoidable/accidential bugs and technical issues or simply lack of knowledge from my side, and not the result of exploiting or cheating.
But it still leaves a sour taste sometimes ...

montiferus · June 2017

Some of the comments here are hilarious. I think someone should do a psychological profile of people who will go through every excuse feasible to prevent themselves from admitting their own shortcomings.

Malamar1229 · June 2017

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

StackonClown wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

"Macro hacks and lag switches" - DC zone chat pugs.

**note: this is not a reflection on Kodi - whoever he or she is

I remember more than once in PVP getting ganked by the same cheesefanboi and it was always hitting multi attacks at once with no time to react and *alway* the same sequence of attacks/abilities, 6 or 7 of them - about 10 times

btw what are macro's and lag switches?

Let's just say it's a bar swap and it's likely macroed that does that...

A lag switch is just an artificial delay added to your tcp connection. You can probably buy one on amazon... A physical cut off switch for your ethernet.

A once famous nightblade used to use a script that access the page file in some way, what you would see was heavy attack, heavy attack, ambush, executioner at once. He was defended by all the usual suspects here and lauded as a great player.

Can you plz desribes a bit more?

Malamar1229 · June 2017

there are youtube videos demonstrating how to use a mechanical keyboard and how to create macros for ESO. One in particular showed you how to add a macro that will bar swap and put up a shield (or heal) then bar swap back to your main bar. So I laugh *** to wallz when the same people saying macros are not possible come to these posts defending their cod buddies.

whats also funny is i actively play on xbox as well as PC and man those folks on xbox must all suck bc this kind of crap is just not there. Hell i can cast frags from behind and actually hit a stamtard thats not wearing Miats pvp crutches.

personally i dont get the cheating... but i guess it comes with low self esteem kids who need a video game to validate themselves. for me, id rather brag about having my 6 figure salary, gorgeous wife, and 2 beautiful kids....

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

there are youtube videos demonstrating how to use a mechanical keyboard and how to create macros for ESO. One in particular showed you how to add a macro that will bar swap and put up a shield (or heal) then bar swap back to your main bar. So I laugh *** to wallz when the same people saying macros are not possible come to these posts defending their cod buddies.

whats also funny is i actively play on xbox as well as PC and man those folks on xbox must all suck bc this kind of crap is just not there. Hell i can cast frags from behind and actually hit a stamtard thats not wearing Miats pvp crutches.

personally i dont get the cheating... but i guess it comes with low self esteem kids who need a video game to validate themselves. for me, id rather brag about having my 6 figure salary, gorgeous wife, and 2 beautiful kids....

Eh, who knows what the motivation is. Though with streamers it's relatively obvious that you are either "great" or no one subs...

My buddy plays on Xbox and it's like a totally different world in pvp. I can't say first hand because even though he's offered I just never could use one of those infernal controllers (keyboard and mouse forever!).

The question would be: Why is there such a disparity? UI mods is one answer, but that's certainly not the whole thing.

While I totally support miat's... it's a big ole' crutch for some people that like to claim they are "athletes".

Malamar1229 · June 2017

id be the 1st to tell you lolz get gud, but i started playing on XB a few months ago (im cp 400 now, mag sorc), and it IS indeed a whole new level of experience. I have yet to get killed (ganked) in one shot and see a full death recap of incap, hvy attk, assassins blade, etc. and the xb gets more DCs and performance issues i think than pc does.

i laugh bc over the past year all the posts ive seen ppl blaming lag. its clear there are players taking advantage of others on PC

StackonClown · June 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

<snip>..I have yet to get killed (ganked) in one shot and see a full death recap of incap, hvy attk, assassins blade, etc. and the xb gets more DCs and performance issues i think than pc does.
i laugh bc over the past year all the posts ive seen ppl blaming lag. its clear there are players taking advantage of others on PC

very very interesting indeed!

The other thing about those recaps on PC is they are *always* the same sequence of events that hit *all* at once.
it was like, as if, like there was some way to consistently pre-sequence those abilities and then somehow like cause them to delay a bit and like then release them all at once and then ask the player to git gud lolz

but I thought it was always about 10000 hours of practice & lolz amazing cancelling & lolz amazing anticipation & lolz amazing situational awareness & lolz amazing uses of trees and rocks

StackonClown · June 2017

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

<snip>
Regardless of all that, I see quite a few of the usual suspects take zero damage from it even though as far as you can tell you are right on them and they are right in it.
<snip>

I challenge any of the so called elite streamers to set that camera back a bit so we can see their hands and see how dominant they are when we can clearly see what they are doing.

! come to think of it, why is it that there are no streamers actually using a camera angle to show the keyboard, mouse etc as part of tutorials? Since they are so keen to show their 'builds' why not give tutorials about PC 'gear' and setups?

Rather than sitting in fanboi chairs and wearing koolz headphones, how about actually zoom in on the keyboard and show us your craft in action ?? maybe this will help people to git gud ?

Lexxypwns · June 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

id be the 1st to tell you lolz get gud, but i started playing on XB a few months ago (im cp 400 now, mag sorc), and it IS indeed a whole new level of experience. I have yet to get killed (ganked) in one shot and see a full death recap of incap, hvy attk, assassins blade, etc. and the xb gets more DCs and performance issues i think than pc does.

i laugh bc over the past year all the posts ive seen ppl blaming lag. its clear there are players taking advantage of others on PC

I know 20+ gankers on Xbox NA that just 1 bang people one after another for literally hours, this is not just a PC thing. Consider yourself lucky

Dyride · June 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

id be the 1st to tell you lolz get gud, but i started playing on XB a few months ago (im cp 400 now, mag sorc), and it IS indeed a whole new level of experience. I have yet to get killed (ganked) in one shot and see a full death recap of incap, hvy attk, assassins blade, etc. and the xb gets more DCs and performance issues i think than pc does.

i laugh bc over the past year all the posts ive seen ppl blaming lag. its clear there are players taking advantage of others on PC

I know 20+ gankers on Xbox NA that just 1 bang people one after another for literally hours, this is not just a PC thing. Consider yourself lucky

What if I want 2 bangs?

RinaldoGandolphi · June 2017

Anyone who thinks cheating is NOT going on in PC ESO is just incredibly naive...name me any PC game in the last 30 years with online play you will find cheaters.

Xbox and PS are isolated from this because it's a walled garden only approved code is allowed to run(well modded consoles but they are usually banned quickly) this means the presence of cheaters on consoles is almost bill, and Microsoft and Sony will ban the Accounts of folks who cheat independent of the game dev so players are far more weary of cheating due to their being real consequences.

Do I think everyone in ESO PC cheats? Of course not

Do I think there is a subset of cheaters? Absolutely. There is no real protections in place like VAC or Punkbuster, and if there is an avenue to cheat many folks will. Cheaters are very much like psychopaths. They will never admit to cheating and will rationlize and justify it. There's not much of a conscience there, nor is their any empathy or understanding of other people's feelings.

I'd say less then 10% of the PC pop cheats but cheaters do exist I assure you. They do in every online game. The chance of ESO being the exception is about mill to zero.

However, I don't run into cheaters often enough to care at the moment. I am not however naive enough to think they are not out there.

LegacyDM · June 2017

TBois wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

Played against a couple of streamers mentioned in this thread in battlegrounds last night. I saw no evidence of cheating, they were able to be killed and they lost the match. Does that mean I'm cheating too?

That's like saying I dueled [internet mma fighter] and he doesn't cheat.

I would be wary of doing anything in bgs right now because the attention of ZOS is going to be there.

I don't believe cheating is as widespread as you believe. I don't have good evidence to back up my argument, just like you don't have good evidence to prove poeple are cheating. Now i would say cheating using in game exploits has been more prominent then the lag switches and non server side adjustments you have been describing. Are these cheating methods really that prominent, and do you have more proof of others cheating? Or how would I go about finding out if other players are cheating? There are some odd things like animation cancelling dawnbreaker and combat bugs that happen, but I have never seen them happen consistently against the same player, even these streamers you accuse.

For background i have been playing since a couple of weeks after release, and there have been maybe 3 people that I have expected of cheating to the point where I felt I didn't need any other evidence then what I say facing them. I don't see those people in cyro anymore. I play solo to medium sized groups (16 man group).

There is an opiod drug crises in this country right now yet I never see it. Does that mean it's not widespread and doesn't exist?

When I was in college I dated a girl who did drugs. She was able to point out who I thought were normal people in public and tell me they were on drugs. I could never tell, but because she knew what a glassy glazed look meant or see signs of certain behavior/mannerisms due to known drug reactions she could tell. It was an eye opening experience and a window into another world.

The point is, just because you don't know what to look for or don't see existence of strange behavior doesn't mean it's not widespread. In fact, there were people in this game who I thought would never cheat and come to find out they were banned...,

I will say the majority of the top streamers have an unusual ability to macro slice and or animation cancel so well that they seem to hit all their abilities at once or quicker than the global cool down should allow for. Some take less damage then they should and some just avoid damage altogether more than what shuffle should allow for. Some dish out huge damage while healing and tanking for just as much.I'm not saying they cheat but it's always been a head scratcher.

rfennell_ESO · June 2017

LegacyDM wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

Played against a couple of streamers mentioned in this thread in battlegrounds last night. I saw no evidence of cheating, they were able to be killed and they lost the match. Does that mean I'm cheating too?

That's like saying I dueled [internet mma fighter] and he doesn't cheat.

I would be wary of doing anything in bgs right now because the attention of ZOS is going to be there.

I don't believe cheating is as widespread as you believe. I don't have good evidence to back up my argument, just like you don't have good evidence to prove poeple are cheating. Now i would say cheating using in game exploits has been more prominent then the lag switches and non server side adjustments you have been describing. Are these cheating methods really that prominent, and do you have more proof of others cheating? Or how would I go about finding out if other players are cheating? There are some odd things like animation cancelling dawnbreaker and combat bugs that happen, but I have never seen them happen consistently against the same player, even these streamers you accuse.

For background i have been playing since a couple of weeks after release, and there have been maybe 3 people that I have expected of cheating to the point where I felt I didn't need any other evidence then what I say facing them. I don't see those people in cyro anymore. I play solo to medium sized groups (16 man group).

There is an opiod drug crises in this country right now yet I never see it. Does that mean it's not widespread and doesn't exist?

When I was in college I dated a girl who did drugs. She was able to point out who I thought were normal people in public and tell me they were on drugs. I could never tell, but because she knew what a glassy glazed look meant or see signs of certain behavior/mannerisms due to known drug reactions she could tell. It was an eye opening experience and a window into another world.

The point is, just because you don't know what to look for or don't see existence of strange behavior doesn't mean it's not widespread. In fact, there were people in this game who I thought would never cheat and come to find out they were banned...,

I will say the majority of the top streamers have an unusual ability to macro slice and or animation cancel so well that they seem to hit all their abilities at once or quicker than the global cool down should allow for. Some take less damage then they should and some just avoid damage altogether more than what shuffle should allow for. Some dish out huge damage while healing and tanking for just as much.I'm not saying they cheat but it's always been a head scratcher.

My guess, regarding the macro slice and animation "glitches" is that one side effect to the animation system is that when someone is rapid firing off abilities that are all perfectly animation cancelled (mechanically) there ends up being an effect on the target that has to play through certain parts of those animations and can't do anything at times due to them.

I have zero doubt that many of the macroslice and related "events" are not naturally occurring at all.

There is another one out there that involves bar swaps that will apply critical charge and procs at range so "internet mma fighter" can start spamming on you as they are arriving post damage application.

Cyrondil is buggy, has been buggy and will continue to be buggy. What you need to look for is when it's certain people it acts buggy in favor of. One of the issues this thread has is that the OP's subject is one of the usual suspects.

One of the biggest issues is that those that use these things are those that will never report them. I've been personally told by ZOS that they are aware of issues and they think that certain groups of players using them are fully aware of the issues and just keep them under the hat because they intend to abuse them. Regularly here I get the tinfoil hat insult, I've been told in private message that many of the things I relate are true and are hard to reproduce due to combinations of class, gear, CP and what not. The abusers aren't going to come forward with them, they NEED the advantage... so many streamers could expose these things, but oddly choose not to. (you can just say I'm lying, that's fine... But it isn't some random ZOS_employee that has told me things, and no I'm not going to say who nor explain further).

KingYogi415 · June 2017

So much salt from scrubs in this thread. Top streamers have no need to macro or exploit.

They have playerd the game for 3k+ plus hours mostly in pvp and have skills you guys do not. There are plenty of people on console who are just as good if not better.

Map position and outplaying your enemys are way more important then being able to weave a light attack with a skill. Anyone can ani-cancle it's not hard or secret how to do.

Waffennacht · June 2017

This is an example of what people are talking about

https://youtu.be/26sm6J46gNU

My own personal experience

KingYogi415 · June 2017

@Waffennacht

Not to be rude but you are clearly at a low skill level trying to snipe spam the very high rank player.

I watched this ganker used rally, proc his clever alch then jump in with a high burst combo which you did not block or mitigate in any way.

The selene glitch you trying point out has been fixed. You used to be to bar swap during the bear for double procs. You where clearly dead before the selene animation even went off. Since you are on console you cant cry macro's

Please try heavy armor and learn where your block button is.

Cheers!

BraidasNM · June 2017

Waffennacht · June 2017

KingYogi415 wrote: »

@Waffennacht

Not to be rude but you are clearly at a low skill level trying to snipe spam the very high rank player.

I watched this ganker used rally, proc his clever alch then jump in with a high burst combo which you did not block or mitigate in any way.

The selene glitch you trying point out has been fixed. You used to be to bar swap during the bear for double procs. You where clearly dead before the selene animation even went off. Since you are on console you cant cry macro's

Please try heavy armor and learn where your block button is.

Cheers!

Lmao, I'll be the first to say that is not a video show casing my skill.

I will like you to note I never once said anything accusing anyone of anything, I am unsure where you got macros from.

I was showing that as an example of what people are experiencing, I show it as an example of Selene not being animated.

I don't why you got triggered like that. There is also a reason why you clearly see the other player's name bud. It's because he is apart of the video... It's an example video!!!!

Edit: and @KingYogi415 you are very much trying to be rude and I'm taking extreme steps in not being such in my response. Please do view some of my other videos, easily accessible in my guides before you decide to judge my level of skill.

Waffennacht · June 2017

And to cheer myself up and I see no reason not to.

This is not the build you see in that video