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Addressing Blazing Shield changes

  • G0ku
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    Well, what people seem to ingore is that this skill is now completely useless for any templar who does not stack his health to unreal amounts. Just replace this skill, delete it from the game, and bring blinding flashes back, the skill you deleted for RD.
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    You do realize builds like this are partial reason we have no CP in BG?
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    G0ku wrote: »
    Well, what people seem to ingore is that this skill is now completely useless for any templar who does not stack his health to unreal amounts. Just replace this skill, delete it from the game, and bring blinding flashes back, the skill you deleted for RD.

    I would trade BS to have flashes back in a heartbeat.
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  • G0ku
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    You do realize builds like this are partial reason we have no CP in BG?

    You do realize that most if not all templar nerfs are connected to the new class warden and bg? bol, heal ult, major mending, bs.

    Man they need to come up with sth for templar, feeling like a castrato right now.
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  • pieratsos
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging

    No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.

    And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.

    Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.

    What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play

    Everything you mentioned are prety much the same for all builds. Those are not specific to ur build and they are by no means an indication of how difficult a build is to play so get off ur high horse and stop pretending that you are playing a very difficult build. Those are an indication of player skill, not build difficulty.

    I said skillful counterplay. Your build has one counter. To ignore you and thats the reason why good players dont waste their time with you. You dont kill people because you are good. You kill people because they are bad. There is a difference. Im not saying you are not a good player. You can be the best player in the game. But thats just ur build and pretending that it requires a high degree of skill is naive. You are not even killing good players. Your build cant kill anything unless you are attacked and you are betting on clueless people to charge you and beat you down like idiots and kill themselves in the process. That is prety much the definition of a troll build.

    But dont worry. You have new toys to play with this patch.
    Edited by pieratsos on May 24, 2017 11:30AM
  • WalksonGraves
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    pieratsos wrote: »
    Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging

    No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.

    And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.

    Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.

    What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play

    Everything you mentioned are prety much the same for all builds. Those are not specific to ur build and they are by no means an indication of how difficult a build is to play so get off ur high horse and stop pretending that you are playing a very difficult build. Those are an indication of player skill, not build difficulty.

    I said skillful counterplay. Your build has one counter. To ignore you and thats the reason why good players dont waste their time with you. You dont kill people because you are good. You kill people because they are bad. There is a difference. Im not saying you are not a good player. You can be the best player in the game. But thats just ur build and pretending that it requires a high degree of skill is naive. You are not even killing good players. Your build cant kill anything unless you are attacked and you are betting on clueless people to charge you and beat you down like idiots and kill themselves in the process. That is prety much the definition of a troll build.

    But dont worry. You have new toys to play with this patch.

    That is all pvp in this game, takes just as little skill to be part of a zerg.
  • Jawasa
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    I want my old pre nerf blazing shield back. Aka v12 Blazing might make la templar usefull.
  • wahoozie
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    Yeah, I wouldn't say it was a needed change but I hung up my blazeplar shortly after making it when one tamriel came out. It seemed like they ninja-nerfed shields to having a delay between cast time and time they absorb incoming damage, but maybe that's just me. It was just a troll build I never intended on really doing anything with, though I would say it was pretty fun for a while.
  • SnubbS
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    The sustain nerfs killed this build anyway. It was fun to play, extremely effective if used properly in a group as a counter to destro ulti—and now it's nerfed into uselessness. There were already a ton of counters to destro ulti, so it's no real issue—plus now we have Support tank Wardens, so that helps.
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  • akray21
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    How about we make the skill useful now? This skill was only of use if you had 50k health, now it is not useful to anyone.
  • soll
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    lol, were trollplars a real problem? They had poor resource management even with CP. In no-CP pvp there were simply 0 this builds. I don't know, but I can't say, that they were imbalanced, however, gave some alternative gameplay.

    let's think, what else ZOS can nerf on templar. I think sweeps healing is too OP. Just think about, they simply can do damage and heal, looks too cheese for me! :trollface:
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging

    No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.

    And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.

    Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.

    What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play

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  • winterbornb14_ESO
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    I don't PvP so I never bothered with combat add on's but after this I installed one to see how OP Blazing shield is/was.

    With 72k health Blazing shield does on average 1.5k to 5.5k every 6 seconds to overland/delve mobs. Even if you pop it in the middle of 6 mobs (about normal for PvE) you still do less than 1k DPS......wow that sure is OP.

    This Damage nerf along with resource nerfs hurts PvE players because of what?......a few PvP players using it in very niche instances?

    This was a stupid nerf snuck in last minute by sneaky developers period.
  • pieratsos
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    pieratsos wrote: »
    Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging

    No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.

    And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.

    Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.

    What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play

    Everything you mentioned are prety much the same for all builds. Those are not specific to ur build and they are by no means an indication of how difficult a build is to play so get off ur high horse and stop pretending that you are playing a very difficult build. Those are an indication of player skill, not build difficulty.

    I said skillful counterplay. Your build has one counter. To ignore you and thats the reason why good players dont waste their time with you. You dont kill people because you are good. You kill people because they are bad. There is a difference. Im not saying you are not a good player. You can be the best player in the game. But thats just ur build and pretending that it requires a high degree of skill is naive. You are not even killing good players. Your build cant kill anything unless you are attacked and you are betting on clueless people to charge you and beat you down like idiots and kill themselves in the process. That is prety much the definition of a troll build.

    But dont worry. You have new toys to play with this patch.

    That is all pvp in this game, takes just as little skill to be part of a zerg.

    Ah. I guess you are one of those who believe that u fix one broken thing with another broken thing.
  • pieratsos
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    @winterbornb14_ESO

    Well like you said, you dont PVP so you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. So let me give you a little clue cause you dont even know how the ability works and cant even do simple maths.

    Blazing shield can hit for 5k - 10k+ each player. And its not every 6 seconds. It can be every 2 seconds cause the shield wont last 6 seconds so you basically spam it. So assuming 6 players you are looking at a potential 15k-30k AOE DPS. But thats not even the best part. The best part is that the dmg doesnt hit in intervals. Its burst dmg which makes it even worse. So all the dmg will always hit in the same second and that 15k-30k suddenly becomes 30-60k in that second. And thats on players with 20k-30k hp. Sounds OP to you yet?
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    @winterbornb14_ESO

    Well like you said, you dont PVP so you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. So let me give you a little clue cause you dont even know how the ability works and cant even do simple maths.

    Blazing shield can hit for 5k - 10k+ each player. And its not every 6 seconds. It can be every 2 seconds cause the shield wont last 6 seconds so you basically spam it. So assuming 6 players you are looking at a potential 15k-30k AOE DPS. But thats not even the best part. The best part is that the dmg doesnt hit in intervals. Its burst dmg which makes it even worse. So all the dmg will always hit in the same second and that 15k-30k suddenly becomes 30-60k in that second. And thats on players with 20k-30k hp. Sounds OP to you yet?

    Not true most players heal through that damage easily and don't forget AoE caps, you are incredibly lucky if you can hit anyone with a 10k shield, it would have to crit and the person has to have such low resist. The spam heals from BoL and healing springs easily outheals our dps.
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  • RouDeR
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    I have argonian blazplar with 70k hp running fesala , and 99% of the time i cant even kill 1 person in zergfests cuz of the Heal spaming .
    Not to mention that if you are stunned your shield will not explode (dont know if its a bug or feature)
  • Baconlad
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    Yeh there is deff a "fizzling" bug when blazing wont deal its damage. I dont get why you guys are shitting on healthplars so much. They have a purpose, they jump into full raid not expecting to live, but to soften the raid through enemy resources and keep focus. If idiots are going to keep hitting me then it benefits my team. Whether its idiots hitting from range or up close, doent matter to me.

    If im stacked with my raid going into a breach with them...rofl the best raids in game arent going to single me outand say DONT HIT HIM. Because theyre focused on aoe damage, i will get him i will explode, i will serve my purpose of turning massive aoe against me back into them.

    With 80k health, im getting 14k+ crits. Not 10...
    What build in game can pump out those numbers AoE sustained?

    It is a niche build. You cant expect to run solo and kill anything, and any templar that does i want to say, might not be playing the right spec.

    Not everyone cares to run a damage build, or a 1vX build. Sometimes its nice to go into a raid and bring somthing different, fun (to us), and slightly trolly.

    Having saod that there are deffinetly better tanks out there...templar heal tanks for example, DK tanks are tank GODS in cyro...but we get the job done in our own way. Get off our backs, you should be sympathetic toward our damage nerf.

    Its funny how you said you "NEVER DIE TO HEALTHPLAR SCRUBS"...but you hate the build and praise the nerf? Sounds like you have infact doed to us many times...hense the odd hatred
  • pieratsos
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    @winterbornb14_ESO

    Well like you said, you dont PVP so you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. So let me give you a little clue cause you dont even know how the ability works and cant even do simple maths.

    Blazing shield can hit for 5k - 10k+ each player. And its not every 6 seconds. It can be every 2 seconds cause the shield wont last 6 seconds so you basically spam it. So assuming 6 players you are looking at a potential 15k-30k AOE DPS. But thats not even the best part. The best part is that the dmg doesnt hit in intervals. Its burst dmg which makes it even worse. So all the dmg will always hit in the same second and that 15k-30k suddenly becomes 30-60k in that second. And thats on players with 20k-30k hp. Sounds OP to you yet?

    Not true most players heal through that damage easily and don't forget AoE caps, you are incredibly lucky if you can hit anyone with a 10k shield, it would have to crit and the person has to have such low resist. The spam heals from BoL and healing springs easily outheals our dps.

    And ironically half the people that you face with ur build are clueless people with low CP, low resists and no crit resisistance nightblades that ambush you and try to 1 shot you thinking this is assassins creed. Sure u wont hit good players with 10k+ but u are not fighting those anw. But whatever it doesnt have to be 10k. I said 5-10k. Even if its 6-7k which is the usual is still very high. Thats as much dmg single target spammable DPS abilities do and you are doing it in AOE while also shielding yourself.

    AOE caps, BOL and healing spring heals are an issue for absolutely everyone that fights outnumbered. Not just you. The only counters to ur build are to either ignore you or zerg you from range. Thats not skillful gameplay. I know you dont like mindless zergs and i understand that. I dont like them either. But that doesnt make builds like blazing shield and bomblades any better. You cant *** on someone's foot and call it rain.
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    Hey, remember when Blazing Shield was actually useful on normal templar builds?
  • pieratsos
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    Yeh there is deff a "fizzling" bug when blazing wont deal its damage. I dont get why you guys are shitting on healthplars so much. They have a purpose, they jump into full raid not expecting to live, but to soften the raid through enemy resources and keep focus. If idiots are going to keep hitting me then it benefits my team. Whether its idiots hitting from range or up close, doent matter to me.

    If im stacked with my raid going into a breach with them...rofl the best raids in game arent going to single me outand say DONT HIT HIM. Because theyre focused on aoe damage, i will get him i will explode, i will serve my purpose of turning massive aoe against me back into them.

    With 80k health, im getting 14k+ crits. Not 10...
    What build in game can pump out those numbers AoE sustained?

    It is a niche build. You cant expect to run solo and kill anything, and any templar that does i want to say, might not be playing the right spec.

    Not everyone cares to run a damage build, or a 1vX build. Sometimes its nice to go into a raid and bring somthing different, fun (to us), and slightly trolly.

    Having saod that there are deffinetly better tanks out there...templar heal tanks for example, DK tanks are tank GODS in cyro...but we get the job done in our own way. Get off our backs, you should be sympathetic toward our damage nerf.

    Its funny how you said you "NEVER DIE TO HEALTHPLAR SCRUBS"...but you hate the build and praise the nerf? Sounds like you have infact doed to us many times...hense the odd hatred

    Being sympathetic because you have to deal with huge zergs is one thing. But trying to use that as an excuse to say the build has a high degree of skill or that its good for the game or that the nerf to dmg wasnt justified is a different story.

    You said it urself. The numbers you can pull out are ridiculous. So the nerf was very well justified.

    And yes good players never die to healthplars. But that has nothing to do with hating the build and If you have yet to figure out why people dont like the build then i really dont know what to say to you.
  • raknorok
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    Yeh there is deff a "fizzling" bug when blazing wont deal its damage. I dont get why you guys are shitting on healthplars so much.

    This happens anytime you get stunned or knocked down, when the shield expires it won't do any damage. I never bothered complaining because i didnt know if it was intentional.

    All you people calling for it to be completely removed, have you no shame or mercy. You don't see dedicated blazers calling for other skills classes to be nerfed. You never hear anything from the .0005% of the people who run this build.

    I can live with the nerf, I'm not gonna be happy about it, but if you remove it completely, you kill the game for me. I don't want to play another build or another class.
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    Imagine going to a themepark and exceeding the weight limit for a ride, that's what this nerf feels like.
    Adapt overcome, all that mumbo jumbo, we'll just have to start stacking more shields.

    Edited by raknorok on May 25, 2017 7:47PM
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  • winterbornb14_ESO
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    pieratsos wrote: »
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    Well like you said, you dont PVP so you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. So let me give you a little clue cause you dont even know how the ability works and cant even do simple maths.

    Hey kid what part of I don't PvP did you not comprehend?
    Would you like to argue simple math's with the guys who programmed FTC?

  • eserras7b16_ESO
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    It's sad.

    The nerfs on Templars are real, and on all our playstyles, all of them, it sounds as if we've been Overpowered for so long when nobody complained about Templars, only on Beam (wich got nerfed too). Templars are slowly dissapearing from the game, it feels terrible to me, I am feeling bad for real. I'll stick to my Templar and try to make it work, tho I doubt i can be competitive in the end but meh.

    I have to agree to everybody: Blazing shield build was not OP, not the tankiest build in the game for sure. Not the one that deals more damage. Easy to spot and to ignore, only useful against many players but even then, they can't scape, hard to get the resources up. The playstyle is not one button spam. It was a really interesting way to play wich they just killed, again.

    NOBODY complained about them.

    Feels really bad.
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  • pieratsos
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    @winterbornb14_ESO

    I know you dont PVP. Thats why i said u are clueless, cause you are so stop pretending that you are not.
    And no i dont need to argue math with the people who programmed FTC. Thats because the maths that you need for this case were supposed to be taught to you when you were 10 years old. Apparently you were not paying attention back then. Or you have yet to reach that age. So much for calling me a kid huh.

    There are literally people here that play the build and admit how hard it hits and you are still arguing about it. But feel free to continue this and keep embarrassing urself.
  • winterbornb14_ESO
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    Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.

    Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health food, solo.

    My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).

    My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.

    My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.

    Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.

    So OP it hurts....................... : (




    Edited by winterbornb14_ESO on May 25, 2017 11:40PM
  • BohnT
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    Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.

    Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.

    My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).

    My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.

    My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.

    Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.

    So OP it hurts....................... : (




    Maybe you don't deal damage because you stack everything in health? How about changing to something that actually deals damage like julianos + wp + grothdar to deal lots of damage?
  • winterbornb14_ESO
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.

    Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.

    My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).

    My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.

    My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.

    Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.

    So OP it hurts....................... : (




    Maybe you don't deal damage because you stack everything in health? How about changing to something that actually deals damage like julianos + wp + grothdar to deal lots of damage?

    That's the point, if you sacrifice everything for a Max Health tank (Blazepar) you don't do much damage. So when they Nerf the only damage you got, it is like kicking you when you are down (other nerfs).

  • BohnT
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.

    Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.

    My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).

    My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.

    My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.

    Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.

    So OP it hurts....................... : (




    Maybe you don't deal damage because you stack everything in health? How about changing to something that actually deals damage like julianos + wp + grothdar to deal lots of damage?

    That's the point, if you sacrifice everything for a Max Health tank (Blazepar) you don't do much damage. So when they Nerf the only damage you got, it is like kicking you when you are down (other nerfs).

    You know that it's called tank, not dps, maybe just maybe that's the reason you shouldn't deal loads of damage with the build?
    if a 10% nerf kills your build you have problems and the game isn't it.
    DDs sacrifice survivability for damage why should your build have both?
  • GeneralSezme
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.

    Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.

    My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).

    My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.

    My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.

    Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.

    So OP it hurts....................... : (




    Maybe you don't deal damage because you stack everything in health? How about changing to something that actually deals damage like julianos + wp + grothdar to deal lots of damage?

    Because we like to use the Blazing Shield, we like the way the skill works, and how it works is it does damage based on your max health, spell damage, and elemental expert do not affect the damage and there is a maximum damage it can do 13k crit I believe, and you have to hit someone with no resist to hit that high and then a zerg healer just instantly heals that damage.
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