Well, what people seem to ingore is that this skill is now completely useless for any templar who does not stack his health to unreal amounts. Just replace this skill, delete it from the game, and bring blinding flashes back, the skill you deleted for RD.
OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »You do realize builds like this are partial reason we have no CP in BG?
GeneralSezme wrote: »GeneralSezme wrote: »Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging
No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.
And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.
Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.
What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play
GeneralSezme wrote: »GeneralSezme wrote: »Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging
No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.
And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.
Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.
What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play
Everything you mentioned are prety much the same for all builds. Those are not specific to ur build and they are by no means an indication of how difficult a build is to play so get off ur high horse and stop pretending that you are playing a very difficult build. Those are an indication of player skill, not build difficulty.
I said skillful counterplay. Your build has one counter. To ignore you and thats the reason why good players dont waste their time with you. You dont kill people because you are good. You kill people because they are bad. There is a difference. Im not saying you are not a good player. You can be the best player in the game. But thats just ur build and pretending that it requires a high degree of skill is naive. You are not even killing good players. Your build cant kill anything unless you are attacked and you are betting on clueless people to charge you and beat you down like idiots and kill themselves in the process. That is prety much the definition of a troll build.
But dont worry. You have new toys to play with this patch.
andreasranasen wrote: »When you've invested time and money into a company, you have the right to be upset over changes that will negatively affect your experience and gameplay.
GeneralSezme wrote: »GeneralSezme wrote: »Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging
No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.
And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.
Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.
What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play
WalksonGraves wrote: »GeneralSezme wrote: »GeneralSezme wrote: »Not a Troll build its a build that punishes zergs, something zos should be encouraging
No its absolutely not. What they should be encouraging is skillful counterplay. Vicious death bomblades were also a counter to zergs. That didnt make the gameplay better nor did it break zergs. And its the same for your blazing shield build. It doesnt make the gameplay better nor it makes anything about breaking zergs. This dumb idea people have that anti zerg builds is the way to go to make PVP better is hilarious.
And if you actually believe for a second that only zergs dont like your build then u've been misinformed. The only difference between zerglings and good players when it comes to facing blazing shield builds is that good players just dont waste their time with troll builds. And no matter how u want to spin it, thats what blazing shield builds are. troll builds with 1 counter. Ignore them. Great gameplay you got there.
Also, comparing blazing shield builds with unkillable tanks is like comparing apples with oranges. The unkillable tanks are not a result of specific skills but because of game mechanics which is prety much what this update is hoping to fix.
What is a skillful build then? If Blazing shield isn't? It is a build you have to put the most thought into you can't just say I'm gonna throw something on and run into 30 people and hope for the best, you actually have to have the mechanics of the build, you have to gold everything out you constantly need to be popping pots, constantly have to be putting up and reapplying short lasting buffs, you have to sacrifice 2 slots for entrophy and 2 slots for blazing shield because lag can prevent you from switching bars. You have to use a heal that can be interrupted (Vampire drain) and does no healing if you don't have all your healing buffs up, all ultimate's available hit like wet noodles or have to be defensive not to mention healing springs and BoL heals through our damage infinitely. Please tell me if there is a class that is harder to play
Everything you mentioned are prety much the same for all builds. Those are not specific to ur build and they are by no means an indication of how difficult a build is to play so get off ur high horse and stop pretending that you are playing a very difficult build. Those are an indication of player skill, not build difficulty.
I said skillful counterplay. Your build has one counter. To ignore you and thats the reason why good players dont waste their time with you. You dont kill people because you are good. You kill people because they are bad. There is a difference. Im not saying you are not a good player. You can be the best player in the game. But thats just ur build and pretending that it requires a high degree of skill is naive. You are not even killing good players. Your build cant kill anything unless you are attacked and you are betting on clueless people to charge you and beat you down like idiots and kill themselves in the process. That is prety much the definition of a troll build.
But dont worry. You have new toys to play with this patch.
That is all pvp in this game, takes just as little skill to be part of a zerg.
@winterbornb14_ESO
Well like you said, you dont PVP so you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. So let me give you a little clue cause you dont even know how the ability works and cant even do simple maths.
Blazing shield can hit for 5k - 10k+ each player. And its not every 6 seconds. It can be every 2 seconds cause the shield wont last 6 seconds so you basically spam it. So assuming 6 players you are looking at a potential 15k-30k AOE DPS. But thats not even the best part. The best part is that the dmg doesnt hit in intervals. Its burst dmg which makes it even worse. So all the dmg will always hit in the same second and that 15k-30k suddenly becomes 30-60k in that second. And thats on players with 20k-30k hp. Sounds OP to you yet?
GeneralSezme wrote: »@winterbornb14_ESO
Well like you said, you dont PVP so you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. So let me give you a little clue cause you dont even know how the ability works and cant even do simple maths.
Blazing shield can hit for 5k - 10k+ each player. And its not every 6 seconds. It can be every 2 seconds cause the shield wont last 6 seconds so you basically spam it. So assuming 6 players you are looking at a potential 15k-30k AOE DPS. But thats not even the best part. The best part is that the dmg doesnt hit in intervals. Its burst dmg which makes it even worse. So all the dmg will always hit in the same second and that 15k-30k suddenly becomes 30-60k in that second. And thats on players with 20k-30k hp. Sounds OP to you yet?
Not true most players heal through that damage easily and don't forget AoE caps, you are incredibly lucky if you can hit anyone with a 10k shield, it would have to crit and the person has to have such low resist. The spam heals from BoL and healing springs easily outheals our dps.
Yeh there is deff a "fizzling" bug when blazing wont deal its damage. I dont get why you guys are shitting on healthplars so much. They have a purpose, they jump into full raid not expecting to live, but to soften the raid through enemy resources and keep focus. If idiots are going to keep hitting me then it benefits my team. Whether its idiots hitting from range or up close, doent matter to me.
If im stacked with my raid going into a breach with them...rofl the best raids in game arent going to single me outand say DONT HIT HIM. Because theyre focused on aoe damage, i will get him i will explode, i will serve my purpose of turning massive aoe against me back into them.
With 80k health, im getting 14k+ crits. Not 10...
What build in game can pump out those numbers AoE sustained?
It is a niche build. You cant expect to run solo and kill anything, and any templar that does i want to say, might not be playing the right spec.
Not everyone cares to run a damage build, or a 1vX build. Sometimes its nice to go into a raid and bring somthing different, fun (to us), and slightly trolly.
Having saod that there are deffinetly better tanks out there...templar heal tanks for example, DK tanks are tank GODS in cyro...but we get the job done in our own way. Get off our backs, you should be sympathetic toward our damage nerf.
Its funny how you said you "NEVER DIE TO HEALTHPLAR SCRUBS"...but you hate the build and praise the nerf? Sounds like you have infact doed to us many times...hense the odd hatred
Yeh there is deff a "fizzling" bug when blazing wont deal its damage. I dont get why you guys are shitting on healthplars so much.

@winterbornb14_ESO
Well like you said, you dont PVP so you obviously have no clue about what you are talking about. So let me give you a little clue cause you dont even know how the ability works and cant even do simple maths.
winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.
Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.
My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).
My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.
My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.
Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.
So OP it hurts....................... : (
winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.
Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.
My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).
My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.
My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.
Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.
So OP it hurts....................... : (
Maybe you don't deal damage because you stack everything in health? How about changing to something that actually deals damage like julianos + wp + grothdar to deal lots of damage?
winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.
Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.
My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).
My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.
My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.
Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.
So OP it hurts....................... : (
Maybe you don't deal damage because you stack everything in health? How about changing to something that actually deals damage like julianos + wp + grothdar to deal lots of damage?
That's the point, if you sacrifice everything for a Max Health tank (Blazepar) you don't do much damage. So when they Nerf the only damage you got, it is like kicking you when you are down (other nerfs).
winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »Some info on how OP my Blazepar is.
Me: Imperial with 75,510 HP with green max health, solo.
My gear: Gold (Divines+max health enchant) (5) green pact and (5) plague doctors with (2) endurance (Infused+Absorb mag. Sword).
My skill: My blazing Shield is 37% max health and does 48% absorbed damage back to mobs.
My DPS: 3885 (FTC w/max crit. dam of 8.6k) solo In Craglorn in group area fighting 2 trolls and 4 bad guys just casting BS then 2 Heavy attacks for regen. If you look at the combat log you see that Blazing shield does about the same DPS as my heavy attacks.
Rotation: (2) Heavy attacks gives enough regen to cast (1) Blazing Shield and all you have time for if you want to maintain BS.
So OP it hurts....................... : (
Maybe you don't deal damage because you stack everything in health? How about changing to something that actually deals damage like julianos + wp + grothdar to deal lots of damage?