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Free of charge RNG box, BAD IDEA
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It's not super clear lookI never saw any advertising saying you'd recieve a free dwemer crate with morrowind pre order. So if they didn't advertise it, that makes it a gift.
Again, sorry. It was advertised. Both the full game with Morrowind and the Morrowind upgrade have the same information:
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_edition
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
"This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more"
The collector's version has more stuff with it, but it includes the crate, too. https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade_ce
It's not very clear on what you are getting. Initally it said you'd be able to take part in the dwemer crate event. I had no idea I was getting a free of chrage crown crate.0 -
luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol good for them. Don't get mad at them because other people decided to spend hundreds on it instead. Get mad at the responsible of this system.PC/DC/NAserver
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✭✭✭✭✭I never saw any advertising saying you'd recieve a free dwemer crate with morrowind pre order. So if they didn't advertise it, that makes it a gift.
Again, sorry. It was advertised. Both the full game with Morrowind and the Morrowind upgrade have the same information:
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_edition
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
"This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more"
The collector's version has more stuff with it, but it includes the crate, too. https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade_ce
But if I close my eyes while clicking on those links I never *saw* it.
:PEdited by max_only on May 23, 2017 2:54PM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It's not super clear lookI never saw any advertising saying you'd recieve a free dwemer crate with morrowind pre order. So if they didn't advertise it, that makes it a gift.
Again, sorry. It was advertised. Both the full game with Morrowind and the Morrowind upgrade have the same information:
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_edition
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
"This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more"
The collector's version has more stuff with it, but it includes the crate, too. https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade_ce
It's not very clear on what you are getting. Initally it said you'd be able to take part in the dwemer crate event. I had no idea I was getting a free of chrage crown crate.
Those pages have been up from when the pre-order was announced. The crown crate is in the list of things you will receive. Depending on the version, of course, but all of them list the crate in the items you will receive. Should they have included flashing lights and waving flags? From the "not-collector's" edition:
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
EXCLUSIVE WARDEN COSTUME
DWARVEN WAR DOG PET
TREASURE MAPS
DWARVEN CROWN CRATE This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more!
EXPERIENCE SCROLLS1 -
It's not super clear lookI never saw any advertising saying you'd recieve a free dwemer crate with morrowind pre order. So if they didn't advertise it, that makes it a gift.
Again, sorry. It was advertised. Both the full game with Morrowind and the Morrowind upgrade have the same information:
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_edition
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
"This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more"
The collector's version has more stuff with it, but it includes the crate, too. https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade_ce
It's not very clear on what you are getting. Initally it said you'd be able to take part in the dwemer crate event. I had no idea I was getting a free of chrage crown crate.
Those pages have been up from when the pre-order was announced. The crown crate is in the list of things you will receive. Depending on the version, of course, but all of them list the crate in the items you will receive. Should they have included flashing lights and waving flags? From the "not-collector's" edition:
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
EXCLUSIVE WARDEN COSTUME
DWARVEN WAR DOG PET
TREASURE MAPS
DWARVEN CROWN CRATE This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more!
EXPERIENCE SCROLLS
Where does it say "free crown crate" exactly? It is unclear.0 -
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✭Is any1 with me on this? I am a little bitter over players that drew a 15k crown mount from that 1 single free of charge dwemer crate courtesy of ZOS. It's like ZOS hands 2 players each a wrapped gift. one of these gifts contain a check for a million dollars, while the other contains a f'ck you note..
welcome to rng, i personally got a mount XD. yet my friend got the note. its all about luck, last 20 boxes i opened gave me crap so it was about time something good came out of the box for me.IGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
DC/AD faction/NA server.
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Anyways, I suppose they did advertise it. players purchased those crates fair and square. I have no case anymore.0
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Potenza✭✭✭✭✭How bout they give you nothing. Thats what I think they should do. People don't appreciate a damn thing they do and totally over analyze things until its our of proportion. Dont like the crate? - Delete it if your against it.
ZoS stop giving free things to people.3 -
Players payed for those crates. so they didn't give us anything.. Other than a super awesome update that is. Which we also payed for.. they are money hungry, that's for sureEdited by ChristerF on May 24, 2017 7:04AM0
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✭✭✭✭✭Is any1 with me on this? I am a little bitter over players that drew a 15k crown mount from that 1 single free of charge dwemer crate courtesy of ZOS. It's like ZOS hands 2 players each a wrapped gift. one of these gifts contain a check for a million dollars, while the other contains a f'ck you note..
So basically you're upset and angry because of the RNG involved with crown crates.
:shrug: Sorry, but this isn't really news to anyone who has checked any information about the crown crates. Great for people who aren't desperate for a specific prize, and don't mind adding all the costumes, hair, spines, horns, whatevers to their collections. Bad for people who do want a specific prize. There are posts and youtube vids on how many crates you'll need to get the gems to buy what you want, if you don't get it in the crates.
I preordered Morrowind. I have the crate. I have no intention of opening it. I'm going to see whether CS can just delete it from my account.
These are my intentions as well.
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭I got some poo* in my free gamble crate... I was already against them, so no changes here. If ZOS wants my crowns they can have them, but I need to see what I'm buying.
* some consumables + a low-quality costume I chose not to buy when it was available months ago. Not actual poo... that would have been amusing, if it was a housing item to leave by the stables.PC-EU2 -
acw37162✭✭✭✭✭
✭First rule of selling something that prays upon addictions,
The first one is free
After that your paying for it.
Alcohol distributors, bars, casinos, big tabacco, and drug dealers have been doing this for years if not decades.3 -
JasonSilverSpring✭✭✭✭✭It's not super clear lookI never saw any advertising saying you'd recieve a free dwemer crate with morrowind pre order. So if they didn't advertise it, that makes it a gift.
Again, sorry. It was advertised. Both the full game with Morrowind and the Morrowind upgrade have the same information:
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_edition
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
"This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more"
The collector's version has more stuff with it, but it includes the crate, too. https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/eso_morrowind_upgrade_ce
It's not very clear on what you are getting. Initally it said you'd be able to take part in the dwemer crate event. I had no idea I was getting a free of chrage crown crate.
Those pages have been up from when the pre-order was announced. The crown crate is in the list of things you will receive. Depending on the version, of course, but all of them list the crate in the items you will receive. Should they have included flashing lights and waving flags? From the "not-collector's" edition:
Enhance your adventures with these exclusive bonuses.
EXCLUSIVE WARDEN COSTUME
DWARVEN WAR DOG PET
TREASURE MAPS
DWARVEN CROWN CRATE This special Crown Crate has a chance to contain Dwarven-themed mounts, pets, costumes, and more!
EXPERIENCE SCROLLS
Where does it say "free crown crate" exactly? It is unclear.
It says it comes with these bonuses, one of which is the Dwarven Crown Crate. It seems quite clear that it is included at no additional cost. It did not say the bonus was the "ability to purchase crown crates". It also clearly states there is a "chance" for it to contain various items. Nothing misleading at all.
The only surprise to me was that I could access the crate now. I had assumed I would have to wait till the crown crate season changed. It was only when people in guild chat were talking about it that I realized I already had it.3 -
Galwylin✭✭✭✭✭First off, I don't consider it free. In fact, I was rather impressed with the price of the pre-order if you take all these things into account. The crate, the pet, the costume as well as the warden and DLC. Now I think the collector's edition was for people with more money than... er, other stuff. Secondly, they are gamble boxes. It stands to reason someone gets something decent. I know I didn't. Doesn't change the fact they are gamble boxes. Mine reaffirmed my idea to never buy one so this was really a waste for them on my part. Its more akin to two envelopes were given out and both had the chance for that million dollars but only one actually had it. Could have easily been neither or both.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SantieClaws wrote: »Prof_Bawbag wrote: »Moving away from the OP's point somewhat, "Free stuff" makes it seem all innocent and acceptable. I have zero issue with crown crates, have bought some myself, but there should never have been a "free" crate. It's obvious what they're doing. Exposing a lot more people to them unnecessarily.
I choose to buy crates because i can and can limit myself, but the entire point of any free bets is to reel people in that otherwise wouldn't put a single penny down had they not been offered a carrot on a stick. Ooooh here's what it feels like to open a crown crate.
Those who are opening one for the first time and win a prize of any great in-game value are the ones more likely to then go and a spend a helluva lot more. That's how gambling usually works.
And then ZOS makes more money and can put more resources into developing the game I play. I see nothing wrong with that, if someone can't control themselves then all the fault to them
Khajiit will explain one of her significant objections to these crates, gambling aside.
The best things in Tamriel can no longer be obtained in the store. Indeed the store has been noticeably poor since the crates appeared. Instead almost all of the desirable items are now in the crates only. We were told there would be crate exclusives yes but we were led to believe these would be the apex rewards. Now a very significant amount of items are crate only.
The design budget does not seem to be significantly going back into other areas of the game - it seems to be going right back into those crates!
The crates and the store have an influence on the design of the game. They do not think 'let's do this travellers will enjoy it'. They now think 'let's do this because we can make more money out of it'. Would housing crafting materials be so rare if not for the fact that most furnishings can be obtained more easily in the store for example?
There are several hats and hairstyles that this one would have paid crowns for. They are all crate ones though so unless older crate exclusives, not the apex stuff, starts coming into the store then they miss out on the shiny coins of khajiit.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
Now repeat that without the weird RP stuff and I'll respond lol2 -
SilentRaven1972✭✭✭✭A bit off-topic, but did anyone compare results of the crate from PTS to Live? I got the exact same items on Live that I got on PTS, in the exact same order."Such is the nature of evil. Out there in the vast ignorance of the world, it festers and spreads. A shadow that grows in the dark. A sleepless malice as black as the oncoming wall of night. So it ever was, so will it always be. In time all foul things come forth." -Thranduil1 -
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✭Personally i smiled when i seen the crate yet the APEX rewards weren't updated.
Just another greed move to push people into excessively gambling for the mounts1 -
Grymmoire✭✭✭✭Conceived in the Crown Store where cruel RNGeezus lies,
One crate to tempt you, then it's good-bye.
But, despair not, for many crates await you on nigh,
Thus you have time my friends, to yet cheer or again outcry.
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree that it was a poor choice, but not for quite the same reason the OP gave.
For me it's more that even though I know for a fact that crown crates are deliberately designed to have absolutely horrible RNG which means the vast majority of them will never contain anything worth the price I still had that moment of thinking maybe I'd get something good from it.
Then I opened it and was let down. Even expecting that it was a disappointment.
If they'd just given me something I didn't want directly (as they did with the XP scrolls) my reaction would be neutral. But instead it's mild disappointment because of the way the crates are designed.
And in my case, and apparently a lot of other people's too if the drop thread is anything to go by it's doing the opposite of what ZOS clearly hoped and warning people away from the crates. I've even seen people in game (who apparently don't understand RNG) saying that they got so much worst stuff from their 1 dwarven crate than the 15 crates they bought previously that they've obviously been "nerfed" and they'll skip the dwarven crates and wait for the next lot before spending any money again.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"2 -
Thealteregoroman✭✭✭✭✭
✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »I buy a burger from McD's, and get a free game ticket. I win another free burger, the guy behind me wins $100k. Do I get angry at the store for not giving me $100k? No.
I attend an event with door prizes. I don't win anything, the guy next to me wins a 50" TV. Do I get angry at the event for having door prizes? No.
So, no. Not with you on this one.
(Seriously, the whole "interpret every single thing ZOS does as a direct attack on ME" thing is getting old. The crown crate isn't an insult, the lack of a character slot isn't an insult, the inability of a completionist to not be able to do the MW tutorial on an old character isn't an insult, the rounding of CP number isn't an insult. I'm just amazed that I haven't seen the phrase "a slap in the face" yet. /facepalm)
Yall just got DRAGGED by @Kiralyn2000 ...............
drag
verb
past tense: dragged; past participle: dragged
1. pull (someone or something) along forcefully, roughly, or with difficulty.
"we dragged the boat up the beach"
synonyms: haul, pull, tug, heave, lug, draw; More
2. informal
deliberately mention an unwelcome or unpleasant fact.
"pieces of evidence about his early life were dragged up"
Damn.........lol
couldn't say it any better.Edited by Thealteregoroman on May 23, 2017 6:28PM****Master Healer...****1 -
IThealteregoroman wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »I buy a burger from McD's, and get a free game ticket. I win another free burger, the guy behind me wins $100k. Do I get angry at the store for not giving me $100k? No.
I attend an event with door prizes. I don't win anything, the guy next to me wins a 50" TV. Do I get angry at the event for having door prizes? No.
So, no. Not with you on this one.
(Seriously, the whole "interpret every single thing ZOS does as a direct attack on ME" thing is getting old. The crown crate isn't an insult, the lack of a character slot isn't an insult, the inability of a completionist to not be able to do the MW tutorial on an old character isn't an insult, the rounding of CP number isn't an insult. I'm just amazed that I haven't seen the phrase "a slap in the face" yet. /facepalm)
Yall just got DRAGGED by @Kiralyn2000 ...............
drag
verb
past tense: dragged; past participle: dragged
1. pull (someone or something) along forcefully, roughly, or with difficulty.
"we dragged the boat up the beach"
synonyms: haul, pull, tug, heave, lug, draw; More
2. informal
deliberately mention an unwelcome or unpleasant fact.
"pieces of evidence about his early life were dragged up"
Damn.........lol
couldn't say it any better.
that doesn't even apply here. We payed for those crates. we weren't gifted, we didn't win. WE PAYED FOR WHAT WAS ADVERTISED!0 -
ScytheNL✭✭✭✭You got a free crate? Where???Ingame:
Ezekiel Zakriah, Redguard Nightblade
Xbox One, GT= Scythe NL0 -
Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭Always something to complain about lol even if it free
Thanks for giving me a laugh. 1
