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I waited months and months for THIS?!
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✭Cash Grab... called it...
Wow you really went out on a limb huh?
Its been a cash grab since they stopped content drops, and vetted the console port on PC while people were paying subs.
One thing you have to give ZOS credit for, their intent has been pretty clear at every turn its about the cash. I respect them for that, not much else though.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Darkonflare15 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.
Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.
Yeah it was terrible being on the PTS and running into Dwemer ruin after Dwemer ruin that was purely cosmetic, had no exploitable interior, and is just there to fill space.
Orsinum with a class and pvp battle grounds. Seems worth the price to me, but I wonder what would of happen if they offer this as a dlc. Player gets Eso plus then starts with a Warden. Decides to to get rid of Eso plus. Finds out they cannot play their character anymore because the Warden was tied to the dlc. Opening up those can of worms probably would been better right?
They should have sold the warden, battlegrounds and the story as separate purchases for $15 bucks each. Then you can really play how you want. Don't want new story, ok just take the warden, don't want either, that's fine, you can still do battlegrounds.
That would have been perfect. But that would ruin the idea of a chapter and a way to get 40 bucks out of everyone.1 -
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✭✭✭So if someone is not interested in battlegrounds or playing a Warden, is Morrowind worth the current price tag?
No. I personally think the content is sparse, but I got the collectors upgrade at a discounted price so it was worth it to me. If you're only wanting the new zone and want the best value, I'd wait until the expac is on sale for no more than 20-30 dollars (about the same as Orsinium at launch).
For some reason I kept finding this expansion on sale for €59 or so, which is very steep. Then I've found a website selling it for about $30. At first I thought it was some scam but I've played the game yesterday and it worked.Vaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
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✭So, Heavy Attacks: Online has a garbage story AND BG's don't work. Shocking.
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✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »So, Heavy Attacks: Online has a garbage story AND BG's don't work. Shocking.
TBH I have always found weaving to be a patch to a broken animation engine. If ESO do something to get past it, I'll feel good.
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✭I think you are whining just for the sake of whining. So far i'm liking it. Worth the $40 to me.
A lot of the forum outrage reminds me of this2 -
Extremeties✭✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »
Glad I unsubbed... runs out in 2 weeks. Then i run out as well.
especially after reading the patch notes for pc.
especially after seeing there were hard-mode completions for the new trial within hours of release
especially after reading all these posts about the release
Are you really all that surprised? I mean look at every other game that has "raids" in them. The hardest difficulties are ALWAYS either cleared on day 1 or have a lot of *** inside it already beaten. It shouldn't come as a surprise to you about that stuff. Unfortunately, the days of content taking many days to complete or even break into are long gone. Everything is all about being accessible and beatable on day 1. You can thank the PLAYERS for that BS, not the devs.2 -
Extremeties✭✭✭The Morrow has been a huge rip off from the start, Stand Alone which really means we are going to screw the customers who have subscribed and promised free add ons. Well this is there legal way around all that.
I am really POd at myself for spending all that money for a piece of crap. Promised a new Class the Warden oh ya we forgot to tell you that if you have used up your character slots you will have to buy a new one with Crowns. How can it be a stand alone game if you don't get a slot for a toon? The hype was that it was going to be a massive play area, does not look that massive to me. I rode around the Island in about half an hour finding all the way shrines and POI.
Terrible when my subscription is up they will not make anymore money from me. Just going to use the play for free mode.
When they first released a picture of the map size, I was skeptical right away about the size of it. After reading a lot of reviews, Im actually starting to become glad I haven't purchased it yet... Now, I can take that money and pre-order Stormblood for FFXIV.1 -
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✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.
Yeah it was terrible being on the PTS and running into Dwemer ruin after Dwemer ruin that was purely cosmetic, had no exploitable interior, and is just there to fill space.
I get a freaking awesome statue for 100$..Morrowind expansion is free for me
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grizzledcroc✭✭✭✭But ye the physical edition def worth. Regardless of how I feel about the actual contents worth which should be 25 honestly the physical things help ease the total cost in to something better .DMuehlhausen wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.
Pretty much for me you get much more worth things with that edition. Plus the book and the map.0 -
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✭✭I thought we already knew it was just a nostalgia based cash grab?Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!1 -
Shadow_Viper_vX✭✭✭✭✭stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »Awful story, and have you tried battlegrounds?! Course not, can't get in...but the pve is awful, awful, awful. posting and playing Morrowind. Miss it now.
Oh *** off with this. The story is great, and the PvE is the same as the rest of the game, which I and many other people like. Don't care about battlegrounds or PvP, but even so, of course queues are full - it just released. Are you serious with this trash thread?
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Agalloch✭✭✭✭✭They must open all the locked areas, delves, houses and add more quests and more content to Morrowind.
I hope they'll do this until 6 june.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Invincible wrote: »I blew through vivecs questline in about 2 hours. Is that all there is to do? Balmora nostaliga was nice but this is a pretty small amount of content for $60. Really should have been a dlc.
The upgrade is $40. And youre not supposed to blow through the content or else yeah, its going to be nothing. You need to take your time, savor the experience. Turn a 2 hour run into a 4 or 6 hour walk.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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SickDuck✭✭✭✭✭Darkonflare15 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.
Yeah it was terrible being on the PTS and running into Dwemer ruin after Dwemer ruin that was purely cosmetic, had no exploitable interior, and is just there to fill space.
Orsinum with a class and pvp battle grounds. Seems worth the price to me, but I wonder what would of happen if they offer this as a dlc. Player gets Eso plus then starts with a Warden. Decides to to get rid of Eso plus. Finds out they cannot play their character anymore because the Warden was tied to the dlc. Opening up those can of worms probably would been better right?
I agree, that would be awful. Like you lose access to the Thief DLC and can't use the skill line anymore. Losing DB and your blade of woe disappears. Or Orsinium and your Maelstrom weapons start to malfunction...Holdviola - Khira'de Regalo - Lélekvadász - Used To Be An Adventurer - Zetor - Does-Not-Give-A-Duck - Lord Sugar - Tenar Arha - Da'rinka - Violent Moon - Extreme Runner0 -
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✭Darkonflare15 wrote: »Orsinum with a class and pvp battle grounds
Orsinum with pointless class and pvp battle grounds in the broken LFG-tool- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »MasterSpatula wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »
Glad I unsubbed... runs out in 2 weeks. Then i run out as well.
especially after reading the patch notes for pc.
especially after seeing there were hard-mode completions for the new trial within hours of release
especially after reading all these posts about the release
Oh for crying out loud. People have been playing the trial on PTS for weeks now. It's not like the Hodor guys just logged on and button-mashed brand-new elite content. Chill on the elitism.
How did you get elitism from my post?... I just think "hard-mode" content should probably be... i dunno... hard?
Like too hard to have it be completed on day 1 by multiple groups - not just hodor. Regardless of PTS time.
It just means the content won't last long. But enjoy your $35 Wrothgar re-skin with less replay-able content.
@jakeedmundson
"Regardless of PTS time" ... what does that even mean? Hodor and other top guilds have been working on vHoF full-time for just about 5 weeks now (it hit PTS on 4/17).
vet Maw hard-mode wasn't beaten for months after release... INCLUDING pts time. (i've still never completed it - but i also never cared to try)
First hard-mode was done on 8/9/16 (it was released on March 7th 2016)
see here...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284084/beyond-infinity-world-first-vet-maw-of-lorkhaj-hard-mode
So it's strange to me when the new trial-hardmode (that people had to spend ACTUAL money on) is getting beaten during the pts. If content is too easy right out of the gate, it gets old very fast.MasterSpatula wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »
It just means the content won't last long. But enjoy your $35 Wrothgar re-skin with less replay-able content.
Hey, I haven't done enough of it to condemn the Chapter nor praise it, as a whole at least. Though I did do Nchuleftingth last night, and frankly, I thought that was a gosh-darned masterpiece. Had a blast, and the Group Event was especially cool.How did you get elitism from my post?... I just think "hard-mode" content should probably be... i dunno... hard?
That is a truly remarkable example of self-contradiction right there. I'm actually impressed.
do you know what contradiction means? All i said was the "hard-mode" trial shouldn't be that simple. I'm far from an elitist... i've never even completed vet maw.CP690
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That part is truly disappointing. I expect they'll 'unlock' those with various future DLC$.Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.
Yeah it was terrible being on the PTS and running into Dwemer ruin after Dwemer ruin that was purely cosmetic, had no exploitable interior, and is just there to fill space.
Not that anyone that played the original had high expectations, even less so when it was announced there would be 30 hours worth of new content!
You couldn't clear the Fog of War in 30 hours in the true Morrowind.
Oh well...It's why you don't try to recreate a masterpiece.
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Panomania✭✭✭✭None of the single player Elder Scrolls games matched Arena or Daggerfall for me. ESO is the first Elder Scrolls game in some time that felt anything like those two classics. Morrowind and Oblivion always lacked something for me, and neither really appealed to me.....perhaps thats why I like the expansion.
People will always find a reason to *** about something in a change to a game. Its been the same story with every MMO I have seen in the last 20 years playing these games: "Hey, they are reducing character power and increasing durability..." "OMFG!!! THESE PEOPLE HATE US! WHY DID I EVER BUY THIS GAME!! THE SKY IS FALLING! I QUITS!".....then of course those same people are still playing 6 months later when another change is made, and the cycle repeats.
In other words, nod and smile, nothing really to see here.
Edited by Panomania on May 24, 2017 12:16PMThe opinions of others should always be heard, especially if they dont agree with your own! But you always reserve the right to laugh at them.3 -
morrowjen✭✭✭✭✭So if someone is not interested in battlegrounds or playing a Warden, is Morrowind worth the current price tag?
It's on the expensive side *but* the storylines and PVE is great. There are a couple of quests where the writing is outstanding. If you have the extra cash to spend then I'd say it's definitely worth it. I beta-tested and spent most of my time questing -- that alone was worth it to me but I'm admittedly a fangirl when it comes to all things Morrowind. Even though this is obviously nothing like the real Morrowind it has some great shoutouts to the original game and it's amazing to Morrowind with updated graphics.3 -
Hluill✭✭✭So if someone is not interested in battlegrounds or playing a Warden, is Morrowind worth the current price tag?
I've been debating a similar question myself. And I've seen answers from both sides.
I don't enjoy PvP, not into pet classes and I tire of dark-elf politics quickly. I do like wandering around doing quests.
I am definitely not the typical player of this game. So, I still debate the purchase, which is funny because I used to mindlessly purchase expansions for MMOs. ~looks at a shelf full of EQ boxes and sighs~
I have such a love-hate relationship with this game...Black-handed Hluill and his daughter Leyek of House Numaril.1 -
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So the answer to lack of Content and a short Story/Main Quest-line is... arbitrarily draw it out so that the content seems longer?Invincible wrote: »I blew through vivecs questline in about 2 hours. Is that all there is to do? Balmora nostaliga was nice but this is a pretty small amount of content for $60. Really should have been a dlc.
The upgrade is $40. And youre not supposed to blow through the content or else yeah, its going to be nothing. You need to take your time, savor the experience. Turn a 2 hour run into a 4 or 6 hour walk.
That's a bull-*** cover story for a shoddy DLC, and you know it.
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This game is awesome, and the nerfs will be buffed in the next cycle and the game will continue. That is the life of an MMO. It sounds like you haven't even played in Vvardenfell, beta or otherwise. You really should learn to formulate opinions based on your own experiences, not the opinions of others. I can guarantee you that for every negative opinion of TESO:Morrowind, there are 1000 positive opinions.You know what, *** this game, and *** ZO$, most players where against the changes made to this patch, we gave tons of feedback, but zos decided to do [snip].
So i'm not gonna support Them anymore, i'm gonna check the forums sometimes, but i'm done with this game.
If you're really done, quit the forum as well. People who hang around the forum of a game they claim to have quit are just lame and pathetic.
The facts does not seem to be on your side, most posts i read, were against the changes made in this patch, even most streamers were against them, aside from the cp changes, which at this point don;t bother me all that much, since they buffed and nerfed them. You might wanna check a few times more if what you are saying is true or complete ***....
And yea i absolutely hate the new heavy attacking meta. Tried it, it's ***.
I said that i will check the forums from time to time to see how the game goes, and if it goes well i might think about returning, but not right now, not with the gameplay that they are pushing now.Edited by JinMori on May 24, 2017 2:01PM2 -
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✭I've decided to wait on purchasing this until it goes on sale someday. That said, the impact on my game since pre-release has been interesting. I've been mostly running dungeons. Those "level everything in their path" DPS players have transformed into lowbie wardens. Dungeons are taking forever to get through now.
...and the flowers...so many flowers. Sheogorath must have had something to do with it...
I do like the bears though...they have this angry vibe coming off them all the time. That's pretty cool.Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!2 -
Galwylin✭✭✭✭✭I've been rather enjoying the story so far. Didn't read anything past the first post because I suspect you may have completed it and I don't want spoilers.0 -
drakhan2002_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I love how the devs said this will be "the largest land mass expansion to date" in the ESO Live for Morrowind...however, they forgot to mention that included a giant volcano...I guess it's all in how you spin the message!1 -
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Even if you exclude the volcano, it's still 30-40% bigger than Wrothgar. It just doesn't have any more content than Wrothgar.drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »I love how the devs said this will be "the largest land mass expansion to date" in the ESO Live for Morrowind...however, they forgot to mention that included a giant volcano...I guess it's all in how you spin the message!UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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apostate9✭✭✭✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »
Glad I unsubbed... runs out in 2 weeks. Then i run out as well.
especially after reading the patch notes for pc.
especially after seeing there were hard-mode completions for the new trial within hours of release
especially after reading all these posts about the release
Bye?
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