I waited months and months for THIS?!

stojekarcub18_ESO

Awful story, and have you tried battlegrounds?! Course not, can't get in...but the pve is awful, awful, awful. posting and playing Morrowind. Miss it now.

Rohamad_Ali

The story is awful ? When I tested I thought that was the best part . I thought the art team , the voice actors and writers did excellent work . My only concern was I thought we needed even more to be a new chapter but no big deal .

Mojmir

Overall it would have been a good dlc,so far not worth "chapter/expansion" price tag.

ccfeeling

ZOS : THANK YOU

Jim_Pipp

Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.

Yeah it was terrible being on the PTS and running into Dwemer ruin after Dwemer ruin that was purely cosmetic, had no exploitable interior, and is just there to fill space.

Darkonflare15

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.

Yeah it was terrible being on the PTS and running into Dwemer ruin after Dwemer ruin that was purely cosmetic, had no exploitable interior, and is just there to fill space.

Orsinum​ with a class and pvp battle grounds. Seems worth the price to me, but I wonder what would of happen if they offer this as a dlc. Player gets Eso plus then starts with a Warden. Decides to to get rid of Eso plus. Finds out they cannot play their character anymore because the Warden was tied to the dlc. Opening up those can of worms probably would been better right?

ZigoSid

I still hope they can open more in months coming (ok, it has only 5% chances to happen with ZOS ^^') but what's really übber awful is the fact that the 2 new character slots are not included in that "chapter" so if you already have 8 characters, you can't even test that new classe ...

That's not my case, I've only 5 but I'm thinking of the others who are in that case ...

In the end "chapter" is only a word to rise the price, you've a new classe ok but If you can't play it what's the matter ? (+ the fact that it was already strange and annoying to have 8 characters slots in a game with 10 races.)

ArchMikem

You waited "months and months", but we still have to wait two more weeks.

DoccEff

ArchMikem wrote: »

You waited "months and months", but we still have to wait two more weeks.

While we PC players have to do even more beta-testing...

ArchMikem

DoccEff wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You waited "months and months", but we still have to wait two more weeks.

While we PC players have to do even more beta-testing...

Let's be serious about it though, the content will always be "beta tested" cause there's always going to be something wrong with it far beyond launch. I'm STILL getting game crashes when I go into Orsinium.

Jitterbug

My first impression is good. I like the look and feel of the zone, the characters are good and while I do not care for Vivec (cover your shame!) or his followers, it's an interesting exploration.
I'm glad I decided to slow-level my new warden through the zone before delving into BGs on my main since they will take a few incrementals before BGs even work properly.

Turelus

Regarding the land size there was a really interesting thread on the close forums where someone scaled the maps and compared etc. which showed Morrowind (even with the volcano) was more explorable land mass than Wrothgar.

AlienatedGoat

stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »

Awful story, and have you tried battlegrounds?! Course not, can't get in...but the pve is awful, awful, awful. posting and playing Morrowind. Miss it now.

Oh *** off with this. The story is great, and the PvE is the same as the rest of the game, which I and many other people like. Don't care about battlegrounds or PvP, but even so, of course queues are full - it just released. Are you serious with this trash thread?

stojekarcub18_ESO

Phage wrote: »

stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »

Awful story, and have you tried battlegrounds?! Course not, can't get in...but the pve is awful, awful, awful. posting and playing Morrowind. Miss it now.

Oh *** off with this. The story is great, and the PvE is the same as the rest of the game, which I and many other people like. Don't care about battlegrounds or PvP, but even so, of course queues are full - it just released. Are you serious with this trash thread?

I have loved the story through most of the game. This one just isn't doing it for me. Seems so quickly thrown-together, and the voice acting(the new voices, I should say) is painful. Majority of the the 'containers' are not interactive. Seems like they just took the song and the cities from Morrowind and decided anything further wasn't worth the budget. I do like the atmosphere. But then again, I like the atmosphere in most regions in ESO. Thanks for your input, though.

jakeedmundson

Glad I unsubbed... runs out in 2 weeks. Then i run out as well.
especially after reading the patch notes for pc.
especially after seeing there were hard-mode completions for the new trial within hours of release
especially after reading all these posts about the release

leepalmer95

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Looks like the thin veneer is finally peeling off.

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Aren't you enjoying all the locked doors and delves? It's a pretty awful tribute to one of the best open-world games ever, and another sign that zos does not have the vision or ability to deliver an mmo worthy of the elderscrolls franchise.

Yeah it was terrible being on the PTS and running into Dwemer ruin after Dwemer ruin that was purely cosmetic, had no exploitable interior, and is just there to fill space.

Orsinum​ with a class and pvp battle grounds. Seems worth the price to me, but I wonder what would of happen if they offer this as a dlc. Player gets Eso plus then starts with a Warden. Decides to to get rid of Eso plus. Finds out they cannot play their character anymore because the Warden was tied to the dlc. Opening up those can of worms probably would been better right?

Or they could of just bought the dlc.

Keep_Door

The warden alone is worth $40 to me.

DeadlyRecluse

I think the zone looks amazing, and I'm enjoying the story so far.

Battlegrounds queue is busted, but Battlegrounds are okay once you get past that. They won't replace Cyrodiil by a long shot, but they are fun for a goof.

Warden--it's really, really good, but I can't say I enjoy it.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the whole thing.

IcyDeadPeople

I thought the developers did an amazing job with the environments, artwork and quests in this zone. It felt a lot more like the single player TES games compared to other zones. The battlegrounds game mode was so much fun that I will probably be doing this most of the time from now on. Especially liked Deathmatch mode and Foyada Quarry map. Strongly recommend this expansion for anyone who is a fan of past Elder Scrolls games or anyone who enjoys Team Deathmatch and Capture the Flag PVP games.

Only had two main concerns with ESO Morrowind. First the world of Vvardenfell feels so much like a single player TES game that I suspect many new players will try to play the same way I did, wandering around exploring instead of doing quests in a specific order like other MMOs. As a result, I ran into some areas that were locked off or missing NPC dialogue because I had not done some other quest X, Y or Z. These quests would benefit from an alternate quest giver added for players who like to explore. Can be frustrating to wander into some really cool environment, but none of the NPCs will talk to you because you didn't do some other quest.

Second concern is the battlegrounds are fun, but need an improved queuing system and they should provide much more experience and alliance points. People who love the battlegrounds will want to spend most of their time just doing this and unfortunately you don't earn enough XP or AP to level up new characters or buy monster helms each weekend. I was only earning about 9k - 12k AP/hr compared to avg 25k/hr in Cyrodiil. And I didn't earn hardly any XP at all.

Would be great if battlegrounds queuing system could allow players to queue up for battlegrounds and just stay in the queue all evening instead of exiting the map and requeuing each time. If they become popular I hope the devs will add a way to queue for specific maps and specific game mode. I like to play the same map over and over in other games like Team Fortress 2 for example.

Vasoka

The guy has 0 idea what he's talking about.

The expansion is awesome.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Honestly it is bound to happen not matter how good/bad morrowind turns out. They are selling something people remember giving them 100s of hours of entertainment that has what 20-30 hours in it?

There is simply no way it will ever meet expectations for a lot of people. Of course some of it Zos did to themselves. Return to morrowind!! Yeah ok.

Enodoc

I wouldn't say the story is awful, but the zone feels quite empty. They seem to have essentially put the same amount of content that you would get in a normal-sized zone like Wrothgar into a land that's 40% bigger, making the gaps between the content larger. And I wish they'd copy-pasted some interiors for the houses in Balmora and Vivec City, rather than just locking them off.

JinMori

Turelus wrote: »

Regarding the land size there was a really interesting thread on the close forums where someone scaled the maps and compared etc. which showed Morrowind (even with the volcano) was more explorable land mass than Wrothgar.

If i recall right it was about 30 % more landmass without the volcano, with it it's about 50%, for 40 dollars, sorry, but for me this isn't a really good bargain, exspecially considering, all the nerfs.
You know what, *** this game, and *** ZO$, most players where against the changes made to this patch, we gave tons of feedback, but zos decided to do [snip].
So i'm not gonna support Them anymore, i'm gonna check the forums sometimes, but i'm done with this game.

Also i read One of your posts... You feel like you are at launch again? Not good dude, ESO launch was absolute garbage, this statement actally gives me a much more clear idea of who likes these changes.

[Edit for censor bypass]

captainwolfos

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

Orsinum​ with a class and pvp battle grounds. Seems worth the price to me, but I wonder what would of happen if they offer this as a dlc. Player gets Eso plus then starts with a Warden. Decides to to get rid of Eso plus. Finds out they cannot play their character anymore because the Warden was tied to the dlc. Opening up those can of worms probably would been better right?

Except it was always stated that anything you got from a DLC zone (weapon, armour, collectable, et cetera) you kept even if your sub lapsed, so it's not much of a stretch to say you could keep your character if it lapsed. Heads would roll if that wasn't the case.

AlienatedGoat

JinMori wrote: »

You know what, *** this game, and *** ZO$, most players where against the changes made to this patch, we gave tons of feedback, but zos decided to do [snip].
So i'm not gonna support Them anymore, i'm gonna check the forums sometimes, but i'm done with this game.

This game is awesome, and the nerfs will be buffed in the next cycle and the game will continue. That is the life of an MMO. It sounds like you haven't even played in Vvardenfell, beta or otherwise. You really should learn to formulate opinions based on your own experiences, not the opinions of others. I can guarantee you that for every negative opinion of TESO:Morrowind, there are 1000 positive opinions.

If you're really done, quit the forum as well. People who hang around the forum of a game they claim to have quit are just lame and pathetic.

Doctordarkspawn

Vasoka wrote: »

The guy has 0 idea what he's talking about.

The expansion is awesome.

Or he could just be disagreeing with you which is a mortal sin.

flguy147ub17_ESO

Glad i didnt preorder it. I still may stay subbed just for the bank space and crafting bags. But honestly i just want to log in and hop in Cyrodiil some when i have free time. BGs just looks like i would do something the first night and never return to them. Look very boring to me and matchmaking looks horrible.

AlienatedGoat

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Vasoka wrote: »

The guy has 0 idea what he's talking about.

The expansion is awesome.

Or he could just be disagreeing with you which is a mortal sin.

Disagreeing with people when you have nothing to go on but the opinions of others is folly. If a person hasn't played Vvardenfell, they have zero experience, and their opinion on the matter is effectively worthless.

MasterSpatula

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Glad I unsubbed... runs out in 2 weeks. Then i run out as well.
especially after reading the patch notes for pc.
especially after seeing there were hard-mode completions for the new trial within hours of release
especially after reading all these posts about the release

Oh for crying out loud. People have been playing the trial on PTS for weeks now. It's not like the Hodor guys just logged on and button-mashed brand-new top-end content. Chill on the elitism.

greyroyce

The Morrow has been a huge rip off from the start, Stand Alone which really means we are going to screw the customers who have subscribed and promised free add ons. Well this is there legal way around all that.
I am really POd at myself for spending all that money for a piece of crap. Promised a new Class the Warden oh ya we forgot to tell you that if you have used up your character slots you will have to buy a new one with Crowns. How can it be a stand alone game if you don't get a slot for a toon? The hype was that it was going to be a massive play area, does not look that massive to me. I rode around the Island in about half an hour finding all the way shrines and POI.
Terrible when my subscription is up they will not make anymore money from me. Just going to use the play for free mode.