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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
    ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.
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  • TheHsN
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    First They Made this good change...
    *Increased the damage of Light Attacks by 15%.
    Decreased the damage of Heavy Attacks by 15%.
    Increased the resources restored by fully-charged Heavy Attacks by 30%.

    Then They f...k us up with these surprises:D
    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Bow Heavy Attacks by 10%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Bow Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 10% for a total of 25%, and resources restored has been reduced by 10% for a total increase of 20%.

    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks by 12.5%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.


    hahahha...ZOS MADE HIS ZOS
    Edited by TheHsN on May 22, 2017 12:40PM
    Plays:
    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka Templar - PvE
    Stamina Templar - PvP
    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • DMuehlhausen
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    I really need something to read during that over 10 gb update downloading.
    May or may not have left my PC on at home with the launcher open. :innocent:

    I really wish they would enable the download in background like other MMOs have. I'll have to remember to start that when I get home, even the servers are even up at that point in 10 hours from now lol.
  • Stamden
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    Yea I caught that too. So on top of the nerfs to everything, they nerfed the staves, so....magden completely useless?

    And no real nerfs to Mag Sorcs, Shields, or Dark Exchange. I'm a bit worried.
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    ~Currently taking a break from the game until my DK can become something more than just a crafter~
  • LazyLou
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    First They Made this good change...
    *Increased the damage of Light Attacks by 15%.
    Decreased the damage of Heavy Attacks by 15%.
    Increased the resources restored by fully-charged Heavy Attacks by 30%.

    Then They f...k us up with these surprises:D
    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Bow Heavy Attacks by 10%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Bow Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 10% for a total of 25%, and resources restored has been reduced by 10% for a total increase of 20%.

    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks by 12.5%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.


    hahahha...ZOS MADE HIS ZOS

    Welcome to hitting like a wet noodle from now on....
    I never post anything but this really ticked me off.
  • Br1ckst0n
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Hi everyone! Happy ESO: Morrowind Early Access day! We expect the update to be available for download on PC/Mac within the next hour.

    tenor.gif

    Recording of alcast running home for the 1st vHoF clear.
    Edited by Br1ckst0n on May 22, 2017 12:44PM
    Offtank of the year 2016
  • Darlon
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    Yea I caught that too. So on top of the nerfs to everything, they nerfed the staves, so....magden completely useless?

    These are not incremental patch notes from 3.04 to 3.05.. these notes treat the warden as a new class, so even if they applied buffs compared to pts, it wouldn't show in these notes...

    Really need the 3.04 to 3.05 changes for that...
  • Enodoc
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    Hey there @ZOS_GinaBruno, any chance of Changes since PTS 3.0.4? We'd be interested to know if there were any last-minute changes to classes from the last PTS, and if you fixed that bug where you can get the Soul Shriven in Coldharbour skill point even though you already get one from the new Morrowind tutorial. Thanks!
    Edited by Enodoc on May 22, 2017 12:44PM
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  • Dissentinel
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    On ESO Live, Rich or Wroebel (Don't remember who exactly) did promise additional changes to Nightblades' Siphoning Strikes as well as some changes to the Warden that were only in the Live patch. They seemed to be exempted from the patch notes for the sake of brevity and because you guys don't seem to include notes for changes that iterate on previous PTS changes. I think it will ease a lot of people's minds if you can find these changes and post them, however. Please try and find out what changes were made to Siphoning Strikes and Wardens :)
    Edited by Dissentinel on May 22, 2017 12:45PM
  • Siluen
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    Has anything been changed about the Warden since the last PTS build however? As these changes were mentioned in ESO live and were said to go live with early access?
  • TheHsN
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    LazyLou wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    First They Made this good change...
    *Increased the damage of Light Attacks by 15%.
    Decreased the damage of Heavy Attacks by 15%.
    Increased the resources restored by fully-charged Heavy Attacks by 30%.

    Then They f...k us up with these surprises:D
    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Bow Heavy Attacks by 10%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Bow Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 10% for a total of 25%, and resources restored has been reduced by 10% for a total increase of 20%.

    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks by 12.5%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.


    hahahha...ZOS MADE HIS ZOS

    Welcome to hitting like a wet noodle from now on....
    I never post anything but this really ticked me off.

    What is exactly ticked u off?!
    Plays:
    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka Templar - PvE
    Stamina Templar - PvP
    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • Moiskormoimi
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    Yea I caught that too. So on top of the nerfs to everything, they nerfed the staves, so....magden completely useless?

    And no real nerfs to Mag Sorcs, Shields, or Dark Exchange. I'm a bit worried.

    Idk. The pet nerf combined with the stave damage nerf is going to be a hinderance. Overall, though, because they nerfed everyone, it's like...everything is still basically the same.
  • Moiskormoimi
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    Fairly sure it was mentioned in Live they had intentions on buffing Warden to bring its dps in line with other classes as the magicka side is underperforming.
  • Cinbri
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    Nice change of countering heavy attacks.
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    This patch note is confusing
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.
    The second part of this change does it only apply to Flame and Frost or all 3 elements? (Lightning too)

    if you recall, they did not change the attack speed of Lightning so my understanding of this would be only to Fire and Frost
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    First They Made this good change...
    *Increased the damage of Light Attacks by 15%.
    Decreased the damage of Heavy Attacks by 15%.
    Increased the resources restored by fully-charged Heavy Attacks by 30%.

    Then They f...k us up with these surprises:D
    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Bow Heavy Attacks by 10%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Bow Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 10% for a total of 25%, and resources restored has been reduced by 10% for a total increase of 20%.

    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks by 12.5%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.


    hahahha...ZOS MADE HIS ZOS

    I think you can blame @Alcast for this one
  • Darlon
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    Fairly sure it was mentioned in Live they had intentions on buffing Warden to bring its dps in line with other classes as the magicka side is underperforming.

    Yes, but that's a buff between 3.04 and 3.05... this is an update from 2.7 to 3.05 which means there's no change since all from warden is new...(yes, it is confusing).... we would need to incremental notes from pts -> live to see what they did...
    Edited by Darlon on May 22, 2017 12:55PM
  • Nifty2g
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    This patch note is confusing
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.
    The second part of this change does it only apply to Flame and Frost or all 3 elements? (Lightning too)

    if you recall, they did not change the attack speed of Lightning so my understanding of this would be only to Fire and Frost
    I do, that was my thinking too, it would be some nice diversity choices there on what to pick. I like the change a lot if Lightning wasn't affected by it. Gives some nice choices for different classes
    #MOREORBS
  • GilGalad
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    So if we had patch notes that only included the changes since the last PTS patch, the final Warden changes would be included?
    We used to have such notes for the last major updates... ;)
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  • Darlon
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    GilGalad wrote: »
    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    So if we had patch notes that only included the changes since the last PTS patch, the final Warden changes would be included?
    We used to have such notes for the last major updates... ;)

    Exactly, that's what we would need to see what they did (if they did something...)
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    This patch note is confusing
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.
    The second part of this change does it only apply to Flame and Frost or all 3 elements? (Lightning too)

    if you recall, they did not change the attack speed of Lightning so my understanding of this would be only to Fire and Frost
    I do, that was my thinking too, it would be some nice diversity choices there on what to pick. I like the change a lot if Lightning wasn't affected by it. Gives some nice choices for different classes

    i hate to say it, but it almost seems like ZOS has thought about this one :)
  • Moiskormoimi
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    Darlon wrote: »
    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    Fairly sure it was mentioned in Live they had intentions on buffing Warden to bring its dps in line with other classes as the magicka side is underperforming.

    Yes, but that's a buff between 3.04 and 3.05... this is an update from 2.7 to 3.05 which means there's no change since all from warden is new...(yes, it is confusing).... we would need to incremental notes from pts -> live to see what they did...

    So stealth patch notes?
  • Nifty2g
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    This patch note is confusing
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.
    The second part of this change does it only apply to Flame and Frost or all 3 elements? (Lightning too)

    if you recall, they did not change the attack speed of Lightning so my understanding of this would be only to Fire and Frost
    I do, that was my thinking too, it would be some nice diversity choices there on what to pick. I like the change a lot if Lightning wasn't affected by it. Gives some nice choices for different classes

    i hate to say it, but it almost seems like ZOS has thought about this one :)
    Wouldn't get too comfortable ;) ZOS likes to be vague. Assume the worst until you actually go on Live.
    #MOREORBS
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    This patch note is confusing
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.
    The second part of this change does it only apply to Flame and Frost or all 3 elements? (Lightning too)

    if you recall, they did not change the attack speed of Lightning so my understanding of this would be only to Fire and Frost
    I do, that was my thinking too, it would be some nice diversity choices there on what to pick. I like the change a lot if Lightning wasn't affected by it. Gives some nice choices for different classes

    i hate to say it, but it almost seems like ZOS has thought about this one :)
    Wouldn't get too comfortable ;) ZOS likes to be vague. Assume the worst until you actually go on Live.

    urrgghhh....don't make me lose my lunch...i was feeling too happy and contented
  • Nifty2g
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    Or we could get a clarification/edit to notes? @ZOS_GinaBruno
    #MOREORBS
  • LazyLou
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    LazyLou wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    First They Made this good change...
    *Increased the damage of Light Attacks by 15%.
    Decreased the damage of Heavy Attacks by 15%.
    Increased the resources restored by fully-charged Heavy Attacks by 30%.

    Then They f...k us up with these surprises:D
    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Bow Heavy Attacks by 10%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Bow Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 10% for a total of 25%, and resources restored has been reduced by 10% for a total increase of 20%.

    *Reduced the cast time of fully-charged Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks by 12.5%.
    To compensate for this increased attack speed, the damage for Flame and Frost Heavy Attacks has been reduced by an additional 12.5% for a total of 27.5%, and resources restored has been reduced by 12.5% for a total increase of 17.5%.


    hahahha...ZOS MADE HIS ZOS

    Welcome to hitting like a wet noodle from now on....
    I never post anything but this really ticked me off.

    What is exactly ticked u off?!

    The fact that the damage has been reduced by the same percentage that the speed has been increased by, this means you'll hit a fraction of a second faster but you'll deal a massive chunk less damage. It feels untested since your dps from heavy attacks will decrease overall whereas it should have been made so it stayed relatively the same, but it doesn't.
  • Kay1
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    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    On ESO Live, Rich or Wroebel (Don't remember who exactly) did promise additional changes to Nightblades' Siphoning Strikes as well as some changes to the Warden that were only in the Live patch. They seemed to be exempted from the patch notes for the sake of brevity and because you guys don't seem to include notes for changes that iterate on previous PTS changes. I think it will ease a lot of people's minds if you can find these changes and post them, however. Please try and find out what changes were made to Siphoning Strikes and Wardens :)

    This guy don't get that Zenimax make 200 promises a day.

    It's called legal lie, they lie at you but not really, they will change it but maybe in 4 months that's how Zenimax do it every time.

    They also told people Battlegrounds will have a CP version, can you see it? What about the token system they were working for? They hype you and let you forget about it, they are very smart.
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  • Dissentinel
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    Kay1 wrote: »
    Neighbor wrote: »
    Ugh, no changes to Warden? What about the promised DPS increase for mag wardens? What about the missing effects on Stamina morphs?

    Is this really the last patch?

    There are no changes or notes for the Warden since the class is brand new for Live.

    On ESO Live, Rich or Wroebel (Don't remember who exactly) did promise additional changes to Nightblades' Siphoning Strikes as well as some changes to the Warden that were only in the Live patch. They seemed to be exempted from the patch notes for the sake of brevity and because you guys don't seem to include notes for changes that iterate on previous PTS changes. I think it will ease a lot of people's minds if you can find these changes and post them, however. Please try and find out what changes were made to Siphoning Strikes and Wardens :)

    This guy don't get that Zenimax make 200 promises a day.

    It's called legal lie, they lie at you but not really, they will change it but maybe in 4 months that's how Zenimax do it every time.

    They also told people Battlegrounds will have a CP version, can you see it? What about the token system they were working for? They hype you and let you forget about it, they are very smart.

    They didn't promise that Battlegrounds would have a CP version. Don't really know the token system you're talking about. I'm sure the changes to Siphoning and Warden are there because they already made them, they simply aren't included in the patch notes.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    We're working on getting some clarification about any changes to Siphoning Strikes - stand by...
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  • Nifty2g
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    We're working on getting some clarification about any changes to Siphoning Strikes - stand by...
    But what about the resources for heavy attacks :(
    #MOREORBS
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