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Race choice for Heavy Armour PVP (Sustain)
John_1999
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Hello together,
this might help you to choose the right race for the upcoming patch for PVP.
I have made a test with every stam race in the game on the pts, for sustain.
Gear: 5x Ravager (Chest, Belt, Shoes, Legs, Arms) all Heavy, Impen, 2x Selene (Shoulder, Head) Medium, Impen , 3x Agility (all Weapondamage Glyphs)
All Gear has stamina Glyphs.
Buffod: Dubious Camoran Throne
Class: Templar
CP: 60 Points in Mooncalf (all other cp do not increase my stam-regen, so it does not matter, where I have spend them)
Test was on the Skeleton Dummy.
How did i test. First I buff my self up with Rally, nothing else.
Then Light attack->Jabs.. over and over again, untill I run out of stam. No other skills. If rally runs out, I refresh it.
I have not used any Potion at all.
5x Heavy = 541 regen all 4 seconds through Constitution, so 270,5 every 2 seconds regen if I take damage. The Dummy is not doing any damage, so the time untill I run out of stam is higher in a combat situation.
But it does not matter for the race choise.
Results:
Redguard:
Normal stam regen: 1074
Adrenaline rush: 316,8 every 2 seconds if I do meele damge.
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1661,3 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 50 seconds.
Khajiit:
Normal stam regen: 1082
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1352,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 37 seconds.
Wood Elf:
Normal stam regen: 1174
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1444,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 41 seconds.
Orc:
Normal stam regen: 999
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1269,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 35 seconds.
Nord:
Normal stam regen: 999
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1269,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 35 seconds.
Conclusion:
Redguard is in my opinion the best Race for a heavy armour stam-pvp build for sustain.
Hope it helps you a little bit.
feel free to comment or asking questions.
this might help you to choose the right race for the upcoming patch for PVP.
I have made a test with every stam race in the game on the pts, for sustain.
Gear: 5x Ravager (Chest, Belt, Shoes, Legs, Arms) all Heavy, Impen, 2x Selene (Shoulder, Head) Medium, Impen , 3x Agility (all Weapondamage Glyphs)
All Gear has stamina Glyphs.
Buffod: Dubious Camoran Throne
Class: Templar
CP: 60 Points in Mooncalf (all other cp do not increase my stam-regen, so it does not matter, where I have spend them)
Test was on the Skeleton Dummy.
How did i test. First I buff my self up with Rally, nothing else.
Then Light attack->Jabs.. over and over again, untill I run out of stam. No other skills. If rally runs out, I refresh it.
I have not used any Potion at all.
5x Heavy = 541 regen all 4 seconds through Constitution, so 270,5 every 2 seconds regen if I take damage. The Dummy is not doing any damage, so the time untill I run out of stam is higher in a combat situation.
But it does not matter for the race choise.
Results:
Redguard:
Normal stam regen: 1074
Adrenaline rush: 316,8 every 2 seconds if I do meele damge.
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1661,3 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 50 seconds.
Khajiit:
Normal stam regen: 1082
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1352,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 37 seconds.
Wood Elf:
Normal stam regen: 1174
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1444,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 41 seconds.
Orc:
Normal stam regen: 999
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1269,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 35 seconds.
Nord:
Normal stam regen: 999
Constitution 270,5 every 2 seconds if I take damage.
Total: 1269,5 stam regen in a combat situation.
I run out of stamina in 35 seconds.
Conclusion:
Redguard is in my opinion the best Race for a heavy armour stam-pvp build for sustain.
Hope it helps you a little bit.
feel free to comment or asking questions.
Magicka Templar: Tammi von Tamriel
Stammina Templar: John James Smith
-Current CP: 3601-
-Just a noob in a world full of pro's.-
-There is no bussines like lag bussines-
Stammina Templar: John James Smith
-Current CP: 3601-
-Just a noob in a world full of pro's.-
-There is no bussines like lag bussines-
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NightbladeMechanics✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Just use redguard for stamina, argonian for magicka, and focus on heavy attacking for resources.Kena
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Twohothardware✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Health recovery is going to be a lot more important in Morrowind as well because of the healing nerfs and Khajiit and Orc both have a 20% bonus.1 -
RouDeR✭✭✭✭✭
✭You do know that in comat you will have to block , dodge and break free right ?
Argonian will be best stam and magika choice for PvP period.0 -
NightbladeMechanics✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You do know that in comat you will have to block , dodge and break free right ?
Argonian will be best stam and magika choice for PvP period.
Actually redguard is very competitive for stamina sustain. If I remember correctly from when I tested it a few weeks ago, the stam return of Resourceful and Adrenaline Rush break even if you proc Adrenaline Rush every 8 seconds and are using potions on cooldown. I think that's pretty fair considering Adrenaline Rush requires you to be melee.
Redguard also gets stam regen for additional direct and max stam for indirect sustain.
Considering that this comparison was done on PTS after redguard got nerfed and argonian buffed, I think this illuminates a bit why redguard is king on live.Edited by NightbladeMechanics on May 16, 2017 10:17PMKena
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Now NA/PC's dueling, BGs, small scale, GvG, and general PvP community. We float just under 500 members. Mail me in game for an invite.
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John_1999✭✭✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »You do know that in comat you will have to block , dodge and break free right ?
Argonian will be best stam and magika choice for PvP period.
Actually redguard is very competitive for stamina sustain. If I remember correctly from when I tested it a few weeks ago, the stam return of Resourceful and Adrenaline Rush break even if you proc Adrenaline Rush every 8 seconds and are using potions on cooldown. I think that's pretty fair considering Adrenaline Rush requires you to be melee.
Redguard also gets stam regen for additional direct and max stam for indirect sustain.
Considering that this comparison was done on PTS after redguard got nerfed and argonian buffed, I think this illuminates a bit why redguard is king on live.
I totally agree, there is one more thing you have to think about, that also influences rgen, it is the new cp tree, that reduces your rgen, if you get hit by a light or heavy attack. Adrenline Rush is not beeing affected by this.Magicka Templar: Tammi von Tamriel
Stammina Templar: John James Smith
-Current CP: 3601-
-Just a noob in a world full of pro's.-
-There is no bussines like lag bussines-0 -
Saint-Ange✭✭✭sorry if I'm wrong because I don't know ESO well but I know a bit about PvP from other games and the health regen seems as important to me as the offensive stat. thus wouldn't it be better to consider the greatest total of the two stats recovery, health+stam or health+magicka, a character needs as a base to tweak later on?
1- Khajiit: 20% health + 10% stam = 30%
2- Nord: 6% stam + 20% health = 26%
3- Wood: 21% stam
4- Orc: 20% health
5- Redguard: 9% +3% stam but limited so ~9-10%
9- High Elf: 9% mag0 -
Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don't know about other classes but I still absolutely love Orsimer for PvP as StamSorc. The sprinting passive and extra survivability come handy while still getting some bonus to damage (via Swift Warrior and stam bonus).0 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Argonians are just overall sustain gods. Built-in sustain system, max health and some extra magicka, and 5% healed done AND healing received, which is 10% for self heals"Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Saint-Ange wrote: »sorry if I'm wrong because I don't know ESO well but I know a bit about PvP from other games and the health regen seems as important to me as the offensive stat. thus wouldn't it be better to consider the greatest total of the two stats recovery, health+stam or health+magicka, a character needs as a base to tweak later on?
1- Khajiit: 20% health + 10% stam = 30%
2- Nord: 6% stam + 20% health = 26%
3- Wood: 21% stam
4- Orc: 20% health
5- Redguard: 9% +3% stam but limited so ~9-10%
9- High Elf: 9% mag
90% people on pvp are vampires with 75% reduction to just health recovery so health recovery is one od the most useless things in eso except only builds for health recovery but its soooooo hard to find anyone with this build in pvp if people are using this...since few months Im running on pvp I never meet someone with build to health recovery
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