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Maelstrom Weapons and Charged Trait
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The last 3 runs of vMA awarded me a charged 2H sword, and then another one and this last run a charged ice staff. This is to add to my collection of a charged axe, and 2 charged 1H swords. Nearly 1/3rd of all my Maelstrom awards have been charged.
The trait gives 200% chance to proc the enchant that is already 100% chance, the trait makes absolutely no sense on a maelstrom weapon.
ZOS please remove charged traits from maelstrom weapon drops, there is no reason for this trait. Maelstrom weapons don't drop in training, and that trait would actually be better than charged.
Edited by Soleya on May 8, 2017 12:40AM The trait gives 200% chance to proc the enchant that is already 100% chance, the trait makes absolutely no sense on a maelstrom weapon.
ZOS please remove charged traits from maelstrom weapon drops, there is no reason for this trait. Maelstrom weapons don't drop in training, and that trait would actually be better than charged.
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ragingruby1991✭✭✭Charged isn't just for the enchants on the weapons. For example, a charged vMA lightning staff will proc concussion/off-balance far more often than a non-charged vMA lightning.
But in the vast majority of cases charged is completely useless on vMA weapons.Edited by ragingruby1991 on May 8, 2017 1:01AM1 -
Why would charged vma lightning staff proc concussion more often??? In order for charged staff to proc concussion more often, it must have shock enchantment. But vma staff has crushing wall enchantment. And if you change enchant on the vma staff - it will be the same as any other charged staff but ugly
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✭tourerttrwb17_ESO wrote: »Why would charged vma lightning staff proc concussion more often??? In order for charged staff to proc concussion more often, it must have shock enchantment. But vma staff has crushing wall enchantment. And if you change enchant on the vma staff - it will be the same as any other charged staff but ugly
I too thought it work like thisXbox one EU
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Soleya✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't have a charged lighting staff to test with, however I do have a frost staff.
I did 10 heavy attacks with an Infused Frost Maelstrom staff and got 88.9% up time on Tri Focus.
I did the same with the Charged Frost Maelstrom Staff and got 88.8% up time on Tri Focus.
Then I put on ele blockade and force pulse and did the blockade, with light attack weaves on the pulse for 3 ele blockade drops...roughly 24 seconds.
Infused
0.7% up time on chill
Charged
0.8% up time on chill
0.7% on burning
I also tried one more time with Infused and got
1.3% burning
0.2% concussion
So honestly I can't see a difference on charged vs infused on uptime of burning/chilled/concussion.
If someone wants to suggest a more accurate test I'd be willing to try it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's truly beautiful when you get that charged bow. I think ZOS should introduce a vMA weapon grinder - you put 30 or 40 weapons in, they get deconned, and you can then choose which weapon in which trait you want...Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.4 -
Nolphi✭✭✭Yesterday I got a powered bow... I dont think there is a single scenario in which that could be remotely usefull. Saving all Maelstrom weps for when they launch the token/decon system. Its bound to come one day.Clan Nolphi Family Gaming
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MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭I got 1 powered inferno staff, 1 powered lightning and 1 precise resto yesterday.... winning!1 -
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Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
GlorphNoldorin✭✭✭✭✭I just started the vma grind. My first 4 staves- powered frost, powered inferno, powered lightning then sharp frost...if only the pattern would continue.0
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Nolphi✭✭✭I cannot complain tbh. I am only 11 completes in and got a sharpened lightning, sharpened ice, nirnhoned ice, sharpened battle axe and a precise bow. That about a 35% useful drop rate which judging from all the complaining seems incredible. I got a bunch of toons though and need more sharpened wepsClan Nolphi Family Gaming
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Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Read the tooltip for charged once again. It has nothing to do with enchantments. Charged increases your chance to apply status effect (burning, concussion, poisoned, chilled and so on) Those effects are triggered by some abilities such as wall of elements and work for any weapon including maelstrom.
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✭✭GlorphNoldorin wrote: »I just started the vma grind. My first 4 staves- powered frost, powered inferno, powered lightning then sharp frost...if only the pattern would continue.
Oh still no Restro?
I got 3 sharpen restro and 3 ice staff restro wih only one inferno sharpen.
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✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »GlorphNoldorin wrote: »I just started the vma grind. My first 4 staves- powered frost, powered inferno, powered lightning then sharp frost...if only the pattern would continue.
Oh still no Restro?
I got 3 sharpen restro and 3 ice staff restro wih only one inferno sharpen.
I ran 100+
Yeah, not quite 100 but it would be getting close. Got my sharpened inferno last week and then a sharpened axe the very next run. Back to *** drops now.
Prior to my inferno staff I'd picked up a few sharpened swords but that was it in sharpened.NA PC | AD
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✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »GlorphNoldorin wrote: »I just started the vma grind. My first 4 staves- powered frost, powered inferno, powered lightning then sharp frost...if only the pattern would continue.
Oh still no Restro?
I got 3 sharpen restro and 3 ice staff restro wih only one inferno sharpen.
I ran 100+
Yeah, not quite 100 but it would be getting close. Got my sharpened inferno last week and then a sharpened axe the very next run. Back to *** drops now.
Prior to my inferno staff I'd picked up a few sharpened swords but that was it in sharpened.
I never had a lighting sharpen and 2h sharpen!
Bit dissapointed about lighting one!
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✭✭I used charged MA bow before I got sharpened - on 5th arena I loved to see ogres drop on the floor and nereids stunned after Poison Injection cause they got weakness to venom and venom procced noticeably more often than with simple sharpened bow Sometimes even two times in a row - two ogres, two injections and they both got huge venom proc and fell on the floor 
Or one absolutely best: three ogres near MA entrance - 3 injections, 3 venom procs in one fight.
Heavy or light attacks with MA destruction staff (or any destruction staff without elemental enchant) don't seem to proc status effects, I spent minutes light/heavy attacking target dummy and not a single proc. I could proc Concussion only with Wall of Elements. But it was on average just as rare as with simple not enchanted sharpened staff
I think I was just unlucky with procs that time. Sometimes in the past I got few procs in a row with simple Weapon Damage enchanted staff... Just as Velidreth set has high 20% proc chance and sometimes it doesn't proc on 8 seconds fight with few dots and direct damage combined, bad luck. Even Lord Warden with 50% proc chance was disappointing sometimes...
Long time ago I had only 4 body pieces of Vicious Ophidian and had 5th piece as powered bow... It was first time, and I made it to 9th arena with that setup, even though the trait was one of worst and I had to weapon swap just before enemy dies to get VO proc. I could only dream about MA bow back then, with charged or even powered trait Training trait on any weapon though would be the only absolutely useless to me...11 more percent experience on kill, make it 100% more at least 
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MaselClass RepresentativeThere is a lot of misinformation in this thread.
Charged works as follows: it increases the chance to apply status effects BY 220%, meaning that if you have a 5% chance, you'll have 11%.
Formula: Base Chance*(1+Sum of the u i%-increases)
The Chances to apply status effects are as follows:
Direct damage: 10%, with destro 20%, with destro and charged 42%.
Enchantments (only poison, shock, fire, ice, disease): 20%, 40% and 84%, respectively.
Single Target DoTs: 3%, 6% and 12.6%, respectively.
Ground DoTs: 1%,2% and 4.2%, respectively.
Wardens passive will increase the chance to apply chilled by another 200%, so multiply the chances with a frost staff and enchants by 2.
Edited by Masel on May 8, 2017 11:40AMPC EU
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DjMuscleboy02✭✭✭✭✭I cannot complain tbh. I am only 11 completes in and got a sharpened lightning, sharpened ice, nirnhoned ice, sharpened battle axe and a precise bow. That about a 35% useful drop rate which judging from all the complaining seems incredible. I got a bunch of toons though and need more sharpened weps
That's cute, I ran it almost 300 times before I saw a sharpened anything. Closing in on 400 without an inferno staff. Any trait maul still MIA period.Brodor - PC NA - ESO's only pure bodybuilding guild
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✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »I cannot complain tbh. I am only 11 completes in and got a sharpened lightning, sharpened ice, nirnhoned ice, sharpened battle axe and a precise bow. That about a 35% useful drop rate which judging from all the complaining seems incredible. I got a bunch of toons though and need more sharpened weps
That's cute, I ran it almost 300 times before I saw a sharpened anything. Closing in on 400 without an inferno staff. Any trait maul still MIA period.
You're not running it on normal are you?NA PC | AD
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✭✭Pulled from the 2.1 patch notes:
Standardized the chance an ability has to apply a secondary effect, such as burning, chilled, or concussed. These chances are:
Weapon enchants 20%
Standard ability 10%
Area of effect abilities 5%
Damage over time abilities 3%
Area of effect damage over time abilities 1%
Charged will multiply these by 1+(%increase/100)Edited by Avran_Sylt on June 9, 2017 4:09PM1
