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ZOS, please explain new punish system(307) for non-combat leveleing
@ZOS_GinaBruno
i tested it with many friends and im 100% sure now
different hardware, differenp ISP and regions
this Script Zenimax added 2 days ago
1) so you are in party, getting exp, but not touching any mobs at all(no damage)
- staying on one place, looking into your inventory, inspecting skills or sorting sets with NPC banker, jumping time to time or roaming around in combat/non-combat(sneak) mode
2) while your party-member/s, who killing mobs around you, are always okay, you will be BOOTED from the server (error 307) exactly in 20 minutes, and next 5 minutes you will be unable to login into the game
Gina, please tell us, its new system to fight dolmen bots?
but you understand its also punishment for honest players??
please review it, im beggin you....
its not against ToS, leveling like this, without any automation actions and 3rd party soft, right?
so why we are punished for that?
i need some clarification fro @ZOS_GinaBruno
or someone else
if this against the rulers, i will not do it
you planning to flag/ban us later for more than 5 minutes, or what?
i wont violate any part of rulers thats why im asking
but i read them all and dont see any vilations here
Edited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 7:19AM i tested it with many friends and im 100% sure now
different hardware, differenp ISP and regions
this Script Zenimax added 2 days ago
1) so you are in party, getting exp, but not touching any mobs at all(no damage)
- staying on one place, looking into your inventory, inspecting skills or sorting sets with NPC banker, jumping time to time or roaming around in combat/non-combat(sneak) mode
2) while your party-member/s, who killing mobs around you, are always okay, you will be BOOTED from the server (error 307) exactly in 20 minutes, and next 5 minutes you will be unable to login into the game
Gina, please tell us, its new system to fight dolmen bots?
but you understand its also punishment for honest players??
please review it, im beggin you....
its not against ToS, leveling like this, without any automation actions and 3rd party soft, right?
so why we are punished for that?
i need some clarification fro @ZOS_GinaBruno
or someone else
if this against the rulers, i will not do it
you planning to flag/ban us later for more than 5 minutes, or what?
i wont violate any part of rulers thats why im asking
but i read them all and dont see any vilations here
I'm curious why ZOS do not inform their customers about adding script/feature like this. Simple in game pop up window with information about adding new anti bot/afk/whatever system would help players understand the reason why they are getting booted out. But now we'll have dozens of threads about this because people simply don't know what's going on.
Lack of communication as always. And as always everytime they try to fight with bots, regular players are getting hurt.
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Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Honest players don't go afk while one of their other accounts friends levels them up. I don't see this as punishment towards honest players at all.Edited by Runs on May 6, 2017 5:12AMRuns| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
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PC NA CP 1250+ and still a noob
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SleepyTroll✭✭✭✭✭
✭tradewith2017 wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »Whats honest about leveling while afk?
its not against rulers
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.19 -
SleepyTroll wrote: »tradewith2017 wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »Whats honest about leveling while afk?
its not against rulers
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.
i can play as i want, and you shouldnt tell me what i must to do or not
P.S. ah, your name is Troll
move alone plsEdited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 5:16AM0 -
SleepyTroll✭✭✭✭✭
✭tradewith2017 wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »tradewith2017 wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »Whats honest about leveling while afk?
its not against rulers
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.
ah, your name is Troll
move alone pls
I'm not trolling. I'm being serious. I hope they ban you.20 -
Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭tradewith2017 wrote: »you have wrong ideas about honesty, lol
its not bad to levleing while afk
No, you have the wrong idea about players.
Afk = Not Playingtradewith2017 wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »tradewith2017 wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »Whats honest about leveling while afk?
its not against rulers
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.
i can play as i want, and you shouldnt tell me what i must to do or not
P.S. ah, your name is Troll
move alone pls
You can indeed play as you want.
Being afk, you are not playing.Edited by Runs on May 6, 2017 5:20AMRuns| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
Oddity| Altmer Sorceror • Drizlo| Orc DragonKnight • Lady Ra Gada| Redguard Sorceror
Taste-of-Hist-Sap| Argonian Nightblade • War'den Peace| Khajiit Warden • Little Warden Annie Altmer Warden
Ports with Blood| Breton Templar • Dirty-Old-Man| Dunmer DragonKnight • Eyes-of-the-Sun| Argonian DragonKnight
Bleak Mystique| Nord Warden • Polychronopolous| Imperial Sorceror • Bullcrit| Khajiit Nightblade
PC NA CP 1250+ and still a noob
At Writs End - A place to complete master writs27 -
no, im also playing
i can inspecting my items in inventory, reading set descriptions or skills, setuping build or interracting with NPC banker to sort our stuff whole 20 minutes, but will be booted tooEdited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 5:45AM2 -
Lavennin✭✭✭I don't see what's wrong with helping a friend level...maybe I'm from a time when you do that a lot in MMO.
But it's not too bad. 20 minutes aren't short and the punishment isn't a ban. So attack once in a while then it's all good.1 -
i need some clarification fro @ZOS_GinaBruno
or someone else
if this against the rulers, i will not do it
you planning to flag/ban us later for more than 5 minutes, or what?
i wont violate any part of rulers thats why im asking
but i read them all and dont see any vilations hereEdited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 5:27AM0 -
SleepyTroll✭✭✭✭✭
✭I like how you keep changing the OP to make it look more and more like your not just sitting afk jumping every once in a while exploiting the afk kick timer lol
Good on you man.Edited by SleepyTroll on May 6, 2017 5:29AM5 -
its not an exploit to do handmade movements to prevent you from kicking for inactivity
but your trolling is too boring, how to ignore players on this forum?
P.S - found itEdited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 5:32AM0 -
Blacksmoke✭✭✭✭✭tradewith2017 wrote: »its not an exploit to do handmade movements to prevent you from kicking for inactivity
but your trolling is too boring, how to ignore players on this forum?
P.S - found it
Sticking your head in the sand :'D classy
If you want to reap the benefits without working for it its not honest. NEXTChampion point: 645CharactersGanlian Stormian - AD - Dungeon healer - Templar - CrafterOndaril Stormian - AD - Trail DPS - SorcererShagrod gro-Bolmog - AD - PVP - Dragonknight14 -
Blacksmoke wrote: »
If you want to reap the benefits without working for it its not honest. NEXT
you dont know a word Friendly help for free?
so you havent any friends
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Blacksmoke✭✭✭✭✭tradewith2017 wrote: »Blacksmoke wrote: »
If you want to reap the benefits without working for it its not honest. NEXT
you dont know a word Friendly help for free?
so you havent any friends
*slow clap* Thats all you could come up with? Cute.Champion point: 645CharactersGanlian Stormian - AD - Dungeon healer - Templar - CrafterOndaril Stormian - AD - Trail DPS - SorcererShagrod gro-Bolmog - AD - PVP - Dragonknight9 -
Olen_Mikko✭✭✭✭✭
✭tradewith2017 wrote: »no, beings afk im also playing
i can inspecting my items in inventory, reading set descriptions or skills, setuping build or interracting with NPC banker to sort our stuff whole 20 minutes, but will be booted too
No, you're not playing. AFK = away from keyboard.
So you can't inspect items etc if you're afkingNB enthusiastic:- Woodhippie stamblade - DW hard-hitter / PvE
- Know-it-all elf Magblade - Healer / PvE & PvP
- Hate-them-all elf Magblade - Destrostaff AoE monster / PvE
- Cyrodiil-Refugee stamblade - Stamina Tank / PvE
Go dominion or go home
Nightblade-Hipster. I played Nightblade before it was cool - from 1.5 onwards.4 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It is automated leveling, being afk doing nothing while gaining levels, and against the the rules. No automated game play. You must be engaged with the game while gaining experience. How is that even difficult to understand?11 -
@BigBragg
man stop trolling and google what automation is - no human action involved!
and quote me the rulers you found, lol
@Olen_Mikko ok lol, i will replase afk word for peeps who cant understand
Edited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 5:46AM1 -
Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS make the rules. If they decide the max amount of time you can be looking at your inventory without doing anything else is 20 minutes, so be it. Getting logged off does not look like a punishment to me. And it looks like an adequate solution against botters and multiboxers.
When I help friends level, I give them advice, gear, food, explain mechanics, or watch their back while skyshard-hunting in Cyro. But I don't grind on their behalf.PC-EU8 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Being afk while a character or account is leveling is the definition of no human interaction. Away from keyboard. Unless you are controlling it telepathically.6 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭tradewith2017 wrote: »@BigBragg
man stop trolling and google what automation is - no human action involved!
and quote me the rulers you found, lol
@Olen_Mikko ok lol, i will replase afk word for peeps who cant understand
Well that's literally what being AFK is.
Away from keyboard. Doesn't imply anywhere that there is human action, now does it?
If you sit at the computer and just stare or are tabbed out googling or watching explicit content, you're not playing, you're automatically gaining XP thro someone else's action... That means there is no human action... I'd ban the crap out of you, and I'm the nice guy here.
Please stop.Edited by Nyladreas on May 6, 2017 5:49AM8 -
@Khenarthi
i think it was done more against flipping in PVP where you sitting and leeching
because Multiboxers - they also figting mobs, and dolmen bots - they firing their LA too0 -
@BigBragg
being afk for more that 30 minutes lead to kicking for inactivity, but its different story, diferent code error and different timingsEdited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 5:51AM0 -
Blacksmoke✭✭✭✭✭tradewith2017 wrote: »@Khenarthi
i think it was done more against flipping in PVP where you sitting and leeching
because Multiboxers - they also figting mobs, and dolmen bots - they firing their LA too
Did he just defended botting? I must have misread this right?Champion point: 645CharactersGanlian Stormian - AD - Dungeon healer - Templar - CrafterOndaril Stormian - AD - Trail DPS - SorcererShagrod gro-Bolmog - AD - PVP - Dragonknight6 -
@DoShazarr
no
if you want take everyting literally, while your game in alt-tab mode, and you surfing facebook, you are not away from keyboardEdited by tradewith2017 on May 6, 2017 5:52AM0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭tradewith2017 wrote: »@DoShazarr
no
if you want take everyting literally, while your game in alt-tab mode, and you surfing facebook, you are not away from keyboard
Hey man, I don't mean to argue with you, I'm just saying.
Do what you will, but once we get a GM to respond you'll see how horribly wrong you were.
Learn to take an advice.2 -
Blacksmoke wrote: »tradewith2017 wrote: »@Khenarthi
i think it was done more against flipping in PVP where you sitting and leeching
because Multiboxers - they also figting mobs, and dolmen bots - they firing their LA too
Did he just defended botting? I must have misread this right?
no, you just trying to find smthing on me because you dont like leveling without combat?0 -
tradewith2017 wrote: »@DoShazarr
no
if you want take everyting literally, while your game in alt-tab mode, and you surfing facebook, you are not away from keyboard
Hey man, I don't mean to argue with you, I'm just saying.
Do what you will, but once we get a GM to respond you'll see how horribly wrong you were.
Learn to take an advice.
thats why i created this topic
i want GM answer, not blanant trolling from some users0
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