ZOS, please explain new punish system(307) for non-combat leveleing

tradewith2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno
i tested it with many friends and im 100% sure now
different hardware, differenp ISP and regions

this Script Zenimax added 2 days ago

1) so you are in party, getting exp, but not touching any mobs at all(no damage)
- staying on one place, looking into your inventory, inspecting skills or sorting sets with NPC banker, jumping time to time or roaming around in combat/non-combat(sneak) mode
2) while your party-member/s, who killing mobs around you, are always okay, you will be BOOTED from the server (error 307) exactly in 20 minutes, and next 5 minutes you will be unable to login into the game

Gina, please tell us, its new system to fight dolmen bots?
but you understand its also punishment for honest players??
please review it, im beggin you....

its not against ToS, leveling like this, without any automation actions and 3rd party soft, right?
so why we are punished for that?

i need some clarification fro @ZOS_GinaBruno
or someone else
if this against the rulers, i will not do it
you planning to flag/ban us later for more than 5 minutes, or what?
i wont violate any part of rulers thats why im asking
but i read them all and dont see any vilations here

I'm curious why ZOS do not inform their customers about adding script/feature like this. Simple in game pop up window with information about adding new anti bot/afk/whatever system would help players understand the reason why they are getting booted out. But now we'll have dozens of threads about this because people simply don't know what's going on.

Lack of communication as always. And as always everytime they try to fight with bots, regular players are getting hurt.

SleepyTroll

Whats honest about leveling while afk?

tradewith2017

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Whats honest about leveling while afk?

its not against rulers

Runs

Honest players don't go afk while one of their other accounts friends levels them up. I don't see this as punishment towards honest players at all.

tradewith2017

you have wrong ideas about honesty, lol
its not bad to levleing while afk

SleepyTroll

tradewith2017 wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Whats honest about leveling while afk?

its not against rulers

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.

tradewith2017

SleepyTroll wrote: »

tradewith2017 wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Whats honest about leveling while afk?

its not against rulers

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.

i can play as i want, and you shouldnt tell me what i must to do or not


P.S. ah, your name is Troll
move alone pls

SleepyTroll

tradewith2017 wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

tradewith2017 wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Whats honest about leveling while afk?

its not against rulers

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.

ah, your name is Troll
move alone pls

I'm not trolling. I'm being serious. I hope they ban you.

tradewith2017

if you being serious you have serious issues, man
go and read ToS or EULA again

Runs

tradewith2017 wrote: »

you have wrong ideas about honesty, lol
its not bad to levleing while afk

No, you have the wrong idea about players.

Afk = Not Playing

tradewith2017 wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

tradewith2017 wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Whats honest about leveling while afk?

its not against rulers

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If it were me I'd ban you and not give you a 5 min timeout.

i can play as i want, and you shouldnt tell me what i must to do or not


P.S. ah, your name is Troll
move alone pls

You can indeed play as you want.

Being afk, you are not playing.

tradewith2017

no, im also playing
i can inspecting my items in inventory, reading set descriptions or skills, setuping build or interracting with NPC banker to sort our stuff whole 20 minutes, but will be booted too

Lavennin

I don't see what's wrong with helping a friend level...maybe I'm from a time when you do that a lot in MMO.

But it's not too bad. 20 minutes aren't short and the punishment isn't a ban. So attack once in a while then it's all good.

tradewith2017

i need some clarification fro @ZOS_GinaBruno
or someone else
if this against the rulers, i will not do it
you planning to flag/ban us later for more than 5 minutes, or what?
i wont violate any part of rulers thats why im asking
but i read them all and dont see any vilations here

SleepyTroll

I like how you keep changing the OP to make it look more and more like your not just sitting afk jumping every once in a while exploiting the afk kick timer lol

Good on you man.

tradewith2017

its not an exploit to do handmade movements to prevent you from kicking for inactivity

but your trolling is too boring, how to ignore players on this forum?
P.S - found it

Blacksmoke

tradewith2017 wrote: »

its not an exploit to do handmade movements to prevent you from kicking for inactivity

but your trolling is too boring, how to ignore players on this forum?
P.S - found it

Sticking your head in the sand :'D classy

If you want to reap the benefits without working for it its not honest. NEXT

tradewith2017

Blacksmoke wrote: »

If you want to reap the benefits without working for it its not honest. NEXT

you dont know a word Friendly help for free?
so you havent any friends

Blacksmoke

tradewith2017 wrote: »

Blacksmoke wrote: »

If you want to reap the benefits without working for it its not honest. NEXT

you dont know a word Friendly help for free?
so you havent any friends

*slow clap* Thats all you could come up with? Cute.

Olen_Mikko

tradewith2017 wrote: »

no, beings afk im also playing
i can inspecting my items in inventory, reading set descriptions or skills, setuping build or interracting with NPC banker to sort our stuff whole 20 minutes, but will be booted too

No, you're not playing. AFK = away from keyboard.

So you can't inspect items etc if you're afking

BigBragg

It is automated leveling, being afk doing nothing while gaining levels, and against the the rules. No automated game play. You must be engaged with the game while gaining experience. How is that even difficult to understand?

tradewith2017

@BigBragg

man stop trolling and google what automation is - no human action involved!
and quote me the rulers you found, lol

@Olen_Mikko ok lol, i will replase afk word for peeps who cant understand

Khenarthi

ZOS make the rules. If they decide the max amount of time you can be looking at your inventory without doing anything else is 20 minutes, so be it. Getting logged off does not look like a punishment to me. And it looks like an adequate solution against botters and multiboxers.

When I help friends level, I give them advice, gear, food, explain mechanics, or watch their back while skyshard-hunting in Cyro. But I don't grind on their behalf.

BigBragg

Being afk while a character or account is leveling is the definition of no human interaction. Away from keyboard. Unless you are controlling it telepathically.

Nyladreas

tradewith2017 wrote: »

@BigBragg

man stop trolling and google what automation is - no human action involved!
and quote me the rulers you found, lol

@Olen_Mikko ok lol, i will replase afk word for peeps who cant understand

Well that's literally what being AFK is.

Away from keyboard. Doesn't imply anywhere that there is human action, now does it?

If you sit at the computer and just stare or are tabbed out googling or watching explicit content, you're not playing, you're automatically gaining XP thro someone else's action... That means there is no human action... I'd ban the crap out of you, and I'm the nice guy here.

Please stop.

tradewith2017

@Khenarthi
i think it was done more against flipping in PVP where you sitting and leeching

because Multiboxers - they also figting mobs, and dolmen bots - they firing their LA too

tradewith2017

@BigBragg
being afk for more that 30 minutes lead to kicking for inactivity, but its different story, diferent code error and different timings

Blacksmoke

tradewith2017 wrote: »

@Khenarthi
i think it was done more against flipping in PVP where you sitting and leeching

because Multiboxers - they also figting mobs, and dolmen bots - they firing their LA too

Did he just defended botting? I must have misread this right?

tradewith2017

@DoShazarr
no
if you want take everyting literally, while your game in alt-tab mode, and you surfing facebook, you are not away from keyboard

Nyladreas

tradewith2017 wrote: »

@DoShazarr
no
if you want take everyting literally, while your game in alt-tab mode, and you surfing facebook, you are not away from keyboard

Hey man, I don't mean to argue with you, I'm just saying.

Do what you will, but once we get a GM to respond you'll see how horribly wrong you were.

Learn to take an advice.

tradewith2017

Blacksmoke wrote: »

tradewith2017 wrote: »

@Khenarthi
i think it was done more against flipping in PVP where you sitting and leeching

because Multiboxers - they also figting mobs, and dolmen bots - they firing their LA too

Did he just defended botting? I must have misread this right?

no, you just trying to find smthing on me because you dont like leveling without combat?

tradewith2017

DoShazarr wrote: »

tradewith2017 wrote: »

@DoShazarr
no
if you want take everyting literally, while your game in alt-tab mode, and you surfing facebook, you are not away from keyboard

Hey man, I don't mean to argue with you, I'm just saying.

Do what you will, but once we get a GM to respond you'll see how horribly wrong you were.

Learn to take an advice.

thats why i created this topic
i want GM answer, not blanant trolling from some users