Sorcs over perform. Did sorcs really think they were above the nerf hammer?

If anything, they should have more nerfs. Shield stacking with pirate skelly, highest dps of any class in PvE, dark deal burst resource replenishment, and best burst damage in PvP (curse, frag, mage's fury execute).

I foresee more nerfs incoming for sorcs so prepare for the flood of sorc tears.

I knew they were going to separate a Sorc Skill nerf announcement from the other classes lol. Managing the outrage lol.

Though I thought it would have been in the sustain dept...

Apherius wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

From a PvE perspective they should nerf the pets and liquid lightning rather than frags... The Familiar Damage is crazy over the top and liquid lightning is the strongest AoE cone that the game has. The Pet alone does 20%+ DPS. How would Frags compare to that at all?

Wut ? you want to see these skill nerfed just because they are unique ?
The liquid lightning is the strongest dot of course , but Dk have more dots . sorc have only one dot from class skill .
If I think like you ,they should nerf the Dk grab because it's the better grab that the game has , you see ?
if your pet does 20% of the dps ... i have only one thing to say you ... you forgot to use the other skills
Notice that sometimes there is add who come on the boss . AND as you can see , my liquide lighning only doest 2% more dps than my elemental blockade ! ( notice that this not the fire one ,the fire does 20% more damages ) !

You got my post completely wrong. In endgame PvE sorcs will still do the best DPS because of those skills.

Familiar and liquid lightning both top 6k dps in your parse, while being full AoE. There is a reason why sorcs are in the top DPS spot right now and in my opinion, it is those two skills among a few other things.
Blockade can't be unbalanced, because every class has access to it.

And I'm talking about PTS damage. Not on live, that is not even relevant to me anymore. The reason why sorcs are vastly superior there is that their DoTs are stronger than others and they get a Buff to heavy attacks via more shock damage and spell damage than other classes.

The only other class getting close to that are dks, and they can only nearly compete due to molten armaments.

So even if my numbers don't exactly match your parse, they have a point.

I don't want them nerfed because they are unique, I want them nerfed because the are too strong compared to similar skills from other classes.

better late than never

Haha this is a little funny to se all the QQ.
And people say they never asked for it... so they are only allowed to change things you ask for?

Sorcs didn't die out from the last round of nerfs, why would they die now?

Overdoing it a bit much, Sorcs of Tamriel?

Well 10% will hardly change anything - but zos you are fixing it wrongly again!

You are messing with the magSorc's only insta-burst skill. That doesn't look good!
The burst is not the problem the magica sorcs have. The problem is that they can go full dps build being extremely tanky!.

There needs to be changes to sorcs so they aren't the most, and sometimes the only, desired class to run end game content with. Which is the case currently. Ordinarily I would say to buff the other classes so they aren't getting shut out, but ZoS is intent on taking the nerf path to fixing things.

I for one welcome any nerfs to Sorcs. Too long were they on top of the DPS charts. No more.

Don't care about a Frags nerf. Heavy Attacks: Online is a much bigger problem.

mtwiggz wrote: »

ZoS did the right thing here. Magsorc is easy mode in PvP on live. Any of you, especially those of you who play Magsorc, don't agree with that need to change your build or L2P.

Anyways, you can look at the numbers;

My frags hit anywhere between 5k-10k depending on the players mitigation and empowered. Average would be about 7.5k.

10% of 7.5k is only a loss of 750 damage.

If you're seriously worried about losing anywhere between 500-1000 damage on frags, which is one extra light attack, you need to take a walk.

I agree. But more to the point, everyone QQs about dark exchange/dark deal, huge burst, and hardened ward stacking with other shields. Of these, a dark deal nerf would fit more thematically with the intended results of the needs given to other classes. The frag nerf is a rounding error on most sorcs.

Apherius wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

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The sustain nerf is a global nerf to all classes. So although a Sorcerer will have less shields potentially, an attacker will have less offense as well. It's a wash.

Dark Deal however will allow that Sorcerer to get back some magicka, while the DK/Templar/NB won't have that option.

BIG lol , same answer , " Read before writing "

Guild mage skill , some tank use it with ebon set in PVE .


Dk get back health / magicka / stam when he use an ultimate .

Oh, dear...

ParaNostram wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Revert the changes, otherwise tou are gonna see your game die...

Hyperbole for the win! But for real I agree with the point on damage nerfs vs sustain nerfs. The problem is none of the Sorc in kit sustain passives nor actives have been nerfed. A crystal frag nerf wasn't what was needed IMHO but maybe I'm just not seeing something.

Edit: If the game does die from a balance change then I will say it's the community that made it die. Fortunately I don't think the majority people will quit a game because it plays different than it did before seeing as how there is no other MMO like this one on the market.

It's not about the "balance" change. It's about running a version of the game during the last 2 years whose weak points are obvious for everyone, and then deciding to go another way instead of making those changes.

technohic wrote: »

Wait. Did they just buff sorcs by reducing their incoming damage of a reflected Frag?

Oh gods I wish there was a laugh react XD that's perfect. Newbie meta following sorcs won't get wrecked as hard now I guess by their first wing flapping DK