PVP should be across the map of Tamriel

linzion · April 2017

PVP should be across the map of Tamriel
It does not make sense AD to walk quietly as in a country walk in EP or DC territory
Since this is a war, why is not pvp area the map of the enemy faction ??

rotaugen454 · April 2017

Because it would be massively trolled.

Patriick · April 2017

I like pvp periodically but that would be terrible as I suck at pvp.

CurvedSwords123 · April 2017

I'm with you. The lack of real world PvP outside of cyrodil sucks. Makes most of the game static and boring. All these beautiful landscapes and there is no real danger, just NPCs to contend with. Real world PvP would make this game dangerous and exciting.

geonsocal · April 2017

MasterSpatula · April 2017

You used to need Cadwell's quests to visit the other factions, and it actually made sense then. But players preferred "freedom" to "coherent storytelling," so here we are.

elantaura · April 2017

Because it would be a backwards step.
One tamriel opened the map, pvp in all areas would lead to pvers leaving the game.
trial groups dungeons due to zone chat not working would be harder to find again. Selling items also being harder and farming resourses would be a bigger nightmare. It would be worse than before the factions opened up.
I say that as someone who does both pve and pvp i like both and spend weeks at one then the other. if you want to open world pvp just put on your duelist title and take auto decline off. That should flag the other like minded people.

CurvedSwords123 · April 2017

It would lead to meaningful player made content all over the game map. If u'r out farming, u should have more to worry about then NPCs on a static patrol route. This type of lifelesness in most of the world makes it feel static and unnatural. It's supposed to be a war, not a series of safe places for pvers to slaughter NPCs in the hundreds and pick cotton non chalantly.

WhiteMage · April 2017

I always wear my duelist title but that doesn't seem to solicit any dueling invites.

Unfortunately, for ESO, this overworld PvP could only be consensual. I doubt we'll get it even in that form though.

CurvedSwords123 · April 2017

I think a split between PvE and PvP servers would be the best bet. U know? Like all the most successful classic MMOs? If memory serves me correctly, the PvP servers in those games were always the most lively.

Casterial · April 2017

Originally, the bounty system idea was this. A player collects bounty from another that has it in the world by simply hunting them and killing them. This was scrapped.

CurvedSwords123 · April 2017

They should revisit this. Defending ur lands from invading players, the content and daily quests opportunities are endless. Would make the whole game feel genuine and alive. It's real strange u can only murder NPCs and get bounties for activities like that. Their original concept of a bounty system has worked before, all the way back to games like ultima online.

Kiralyn2000 · April 2017

PvP is a vile, terrible thing, inhabited by vile, terrible people*. I would not be here, if it were a "pvp game". I won't claim to speak for "many of us" or anything like that.

* not all of them, of course. But enough to make the entire thing a hive of scum and villainy.

linzion · April 2017

elantaura wrote: »

Because it would be a backwards step.
One tamriel opened the map, pvp in all areas would lead to pvers leaving the game.
trial groups dungeons due to zone chat not working would be harder to find again. Selling items also being harder and farming resourses would be a bigger nightmare. It would be worse than before the factions opened up.
I say that as someone who does both pve and pvp i like both and spend weeks at one then the other. if you want to open world pvp just put on your duelist title and take auto decline off. That should flag the other like minded people.

Name this is duel, I do not like duel ... my game is even programmed to automatically refuse ...
Tamriel is devoid of real danger.
I'm saying it would make more sense for the faction to be an enemy in everyone, not just in Cirodill, I'm not talking about catching resurges. Nor flag out of cyrodill

I know other MMOs in which it is possible to choose whether to play on a pvp server or PVE server

Even those who enjoy Role-play Elder Scrolls would have more fun.

I miss the stealth and Bow (no target, simulando gravidade) classic of the Elder Scrolls obviously this would be welcome in the online

Rhoric · April 2017

No. Simply no. PvERs would leave in droves. They are not gonna do separate mega servers for PvP and PvE for NA, EU and the consoles.

infernomorgothb14_ESO · April 2017

How about you can zone into an area, like say stormhaven. And it is the normal instance of the zone. Now you can pull up a side menu and enter the PvP instance which is optional. It is exactly the same as the PVE instance except faction PvP is allowed. People can cry about ganking and camping all they want, but that is the players problem..its a sandbox where anything goes.

Or they can have a system like old SWG where you can flag your self as overt, and are targetable by other overt players in the opposing factions anywhere in the game...this is probably the best option.

For the record....ESO currently has the worst PvP i've ever played in an MMO, I had much better times in SWG, WAR, SWTOR..GW2 etc.

Gilvoth · April 2017

linzion wrote: »

PVP should be across the map of Tamriel
It does not make sense AD to walk quietly as in a country walk in EP or DC territory
Since this is a war, why is not pvp area the map of the enemy faction ??

you are right. i vote "yes" and agree with pvp everywhere.
only thing i ask is for some safe areas where we can do things without pvp, like quest givers safe space and safe towns and things like spawn points and things like that.

linzion · April 2017

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

PvP is a vile, terrible thing, inhabited by vile, terrible people*. I would not be here, if it were a "pvp game". I won't claim to speak for "many of us" or anything like that.

* not all of them, of course. But enough to make the entire thing a hive of scum and villainy.

As I said, I know another MMO has separate servers unique to anyone who wants just PVE or PVP/PVE

I think strange MMO to fight with NPC being so it is better to play RPG single play, since they do not develop the Elder Scrolls VI ... they should have made it more faithful to lore.

geonsocal · April 2017

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

PvP is a vile, terrible thing, inhabited by vile, terrible people*. I would not be here, if it were a "pvp game". I won't claim to speak for "many of us" or anything like that.

* not all of them, of course. But enough to make the entire thing a hive of scum and villainy.

we're all just some big kids having fun out there...trying to kill each other

GwJSVDShark · April 2017

You can always invite people to duel

CurvedSwords123 · April 2017

Good to see some ppl up for game reform, and the injection of some life and authenticity to this "war". The PvE [snip] crowd is always so onerous and loud. Either seperate servers or seperate instances (too a much lesser extent) would be the way to go. Let's keep this discussion going. ESO has a lot of potential, let's hope this thread gains more traction.

linzion · April 2017

GwJSVDShark wrote: »

You can always invite people to duel

Dual is not an adventure, just a fight trying to be better than another ... I see in the pvp "is an adventure in exploration the world of Nir"

linzion · April 2017

Using the point of view of Kiralyn2000

(Roleplay maybe)
"I would be a good person in the midst of a world corrupted by war"

Verbum_Rithimus · April 2017

linzion wrote: »

PVP should be across the map of Tamriel
It does not make sense AD to walk quietly as in a country walk in EP or DC territory
Since this is a war, why is not pvp area the map of the enemy faction ??

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This woeful thought's so very bad
That if zos ignores it, I'll be glad.

For this:

elantaura wrote: »

Because it would be a backwards step.
One tamriel opened the map, pvp in all areas would lead to pvers leaving the game.
trial groups dungeons due to zone chat not working would be harder to find again. Selling items also being harder and farming resourses would be a bigger nightmare. It would be worse than before the factions opened up.
I say that as someone who does both pve and pvp i like both and spend weeks at one then the other. if you want to open world pvp just put on your duelist title and take auto decline off. That should flag the other like minded people.

and this:

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

PvP is a vile, terrible thing, inhabited by vile, terrible people*. I would not be here, if it were a "pvp game". I won't claim to speak for "many of us" or anything like that.

* not all of them, of course. But enough to make the entire thing a hive of scum and villainy.

and this:

Rhoric wrote: »

No. Simply no. PvERs would leave in droves. They are not gonna do separate mega servers for PvP and PvE for NA, EU and the consoles.

and this:

Katahdin wrote: »

No

Show why that notion should be dismissed

So please leave pve alone;
And Cyrodiil as sole dead zone

Bouldercleave · April 2017

linzion wrote: »

elantaura wrote: »

Because it would be a backwards step.
One tamriel opened the map, pvp in all areas would lead to pvers leaving the game.
trial groups dungeons due to zone chat not working would be harder to find again. Selling items also being harder and farming resourses would be a bigger nightmare. It would be worse than before the factions opened up.
I say that as someone who does both pve and pvp i like both and spend weeks at one then the other. if you want to open world pvp just put on your duelist title and take auto decline off. That should flag the other like minded people.

Name this is duel, I do not like duel ... my game is even programmed to automatically refuse ...
Tamriel is devoid of real danger.
I'm saying it would make more sense for the faction to be an enemy in everyone, not just in Cirodill, I'm not talking about catching resurges. Nor flag out of cyrodill

I know other MMOs in which it is possible to choose whether to play on a pvp server or PVE server

Even those who enjoy Role-play Elder Scrolls would have more fun.

I miss the stealth and Bow (no target, simulando gravidade) classic of the Elder Scrolls obviously this would be welcome in the online

I for one would NOT have more fun. Horrible idea to force PvP on people that don't want to.

I'm all for a full PvP server and a carebear version of Cyrodil though.

joshjda · April 2017

Pvp is this game is horrible and should be downplayed as much as possible until it is fully apart from pve. No shared sets between the two no nonsense nerfs ruining pve because some lame ass has massive pens in pvp due to what should be pve only sets.

Gilvoth · April 2017

could allways have 2 servers.
one for pve and one for pvp.

people say it cost money but that's just not true.
just excuse to not let us have our fun.

phairdon · April 2017

The pvp population would be sparse, so to speak, being spread out across the whole of tamriel. More than likely it would simply become a gank fest. In my opinion it could end up doing more damage to pvp than good.

KingYogi415 · April 2017

I vote yes!

Killing some one should take 50% of their gold and a 2 pieces of their armor. EVEN is it's BOP.

Cheers!

Demycilian · April 2017

Only if ZOS wanted to drive away most of their playerbase.

CurvedSwords123 · April 2017

Split the megaserver into a PvP and PvE mirror. They [SNIp] can farm their NPCs in peace, and those of us who want genuine war will have it. The PvP/PvE split is proven to work for everyone by precedent and no one can deny that. How would this drive players away? The only reasonable assumption is it would attract new players from the old school WoW/EQ/UO crowds.

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