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ZOS, nerf Sorc shield
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I bet most of the complainers are stacking crit chance and crit dmg along with penetration to combat hvy armour..
You guys know, right that if you take cp out of crit damage, there is a star you can add it to that increases damage to shields... If you drop spriggarns and instead add a weapon damage set or proc set like hundings or viper...
There's is a set specifically to do damage through shields, also don't oblivion enchants go through too?
Yknow, building to combat shields instead of armour. Of course if everyone did that the boards would be full of heavy armour is op threads instead ..
The game is very rock/paper/scissors. If you want to kill sorcs, you can, you just have to give something else up. Shattering blows is not the answer, though.
I went through about 20 different builds before I settled on a solo build. It wasn't designed to kill sorcs, it just happened to be perfect for it. I use max crit damage and abilities with the highest tooltip... Most sorcs die to the spillover damage. Literally, sorcs 1vX 4-5 players like a boss and when the sorc finishes them off I engage and they pop like a balloon.
I still try various other things as I always want to see if the build can be improved. To make a long story short, I don't think shattering blows works right now. I've tried about 5 different combinations, including 97 shattering and 97 mighty. I see no improvement on getting shields down over any other type of build.
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Lightning staff shieldbreaker and any sorc is dead.Wreuntzylla wrote: »I bet most of the complainers are stacking crit chance and crit dmg along with penetration to combat hvy armour..
You guys know, right that if you take cp out of crit damage, there is a star you can add it to that increases damage to shields... If you drop spriggarns and instead add a weapon damage set or proc set like hundings or viper...
There's is a set specifically to do damage through shields, also don't oblivion enchants go through too?
Yknow, building to combat shields instead of armour. Of course if everyone did that the boards would be full of heavy armour is op threads instead ..
The game is very rock/paper/scissors. If you want to kill sorcs, you can, you just have to give something else up. Shattering blows is not the answer, though.
I went through about 20 different builds before I settled on a solo build. It wasn't designed to kill sorcs, it just happened to be perfect for it. I use max crit damage and abilities with the highest tooltip... Most sorcs die to the spillover damage. Literally, sorcs 1vX 4-5 players like a boss and when the sorc finishes them off I engage and they pop like a balloon.
I still try various other things as I always want to see if the build can be improved. To make a long story short, I don't think shattering blows works right now. I've tried about 5 different combinations, including 97 shattering and 97 mighty. I see no improvement on getting shields down over any other type of build.
PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
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LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭Valera Progib wrote: »
Lightning staff shieldbreaker and any sorc is dead.Wreuntzylla wrote: »I bet most of the complainers are stacking crit chance and crit dmg along with penetration to combat hvy armour..
You guys know, right that if you take cp out of crit damage, there is a star you can add it to that increases damage to shields... If you drop spriggarns and instead add a weapon damage set or proc set like hundings or viper...
There's is a set specifically to do damage through shields, also don't oblivion enchants go through too?
Yknow, building to combat shields instead of armour. Of course if everyone did that the boards would be full of heavy armour is op threads instead ..
The game is very rock/paper/scissors. If you want to kill sorcs, you can, you just have to give something else up. Shattering blows is not the answer, though.
I went through about 20 different builds before I settled on a solo build. It wasn't designed to kill sorcs, it just happened to be perfect for it. I use max crit damage and abilities with the highest tooltip... Most sorcs die to the spillover damage. Literally, sorcs 1vX 4-5 players like a boss and when the sorc finishes them off I engage and they pop like a balloon.
I still try various other things as I always want to see if the build can be improved. To make a long story short, I don't think shattering blows works right now. I've tried about 5 different combinations, including 97 shattering and 97 mighty. I see no improvement on getting shields down over any other type of build.
Add in some infused on your staff, oblivion enchant & torug's armor for the lolz too
Edited by LegendaryMage on April 21, 2017 8:24PM2 -
UppGRAYxDD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Honestly, magplar dps builds with total dark slotted ruins all distance magicka builds...especially sorcs"Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."0 -
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✭Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »So you want them to nerf the nerfed shields? They used to last twenty seconds now they last six, what do you propose that they last three seconds?
Who cares if it's 20s or 6s or 2 seconds.. you can just keep on casting it.. Haunting Curse will do the rest..
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Barbaran✭✭✭✭nerf shield? your talking about a class that has to use magicka every 6 sec MAX (usually more often because your getting hit). a class that without it is a 1-2 shot kill because they are wearing *** cotton shirts and sweat pants with a wooden walking stick for a weapon. not to mention shields have zero mitigation, so if your suprise attack hits for 5K in cyrodiil, that shield will take a 5K hit. how long does it take to break a 10k shield? less then 6 seconds.
so you all run aroundon your full heavy steel plated armour head to toe with 28-35k resistance and a 5 second 10k vigor heal or instant 15-20k rally burst heal on top of that, and lets nit forget your shuffle dodge chance, which again sorcs dont get a dodge chance, EVERYTHING hits them.
but light armor wearing sorcs should be easier to kill?
get over these threads that sorcs need a nerf, i can kill a sorc with my stam by bursting my timing or just keeping the pressure constant with a stun at the right moment.
a sorc has to hit a combo with timing to get a kill, as well as re applying a shield every 3-6 seconds so they sont die from a single dawnbreaker instantlyEdited by Barbaran on April 22, 2017 12:05AM3 -
dark2usSoul Shrivenpeople complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad2 -
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✭I'm the only one in this game that find Sorc ridiculous?
I can kill them without taking damage, a good one will maybe try to put pressure on me but after 4 cc they can't do anything besides spamming shields.
I also don't find them "tanky", I usually solo with one and well 1 CC and is over, the only way I can survive is if I casted 3 shields previously.
They are very good for small-scale tho and you can help a lot your team.K1 The Big Monkey0 -
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✭people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of1 -
BoxFoxx✭✭✭Nerfing stuff is not the answer.
It never has been and it never will be, even though ZOS keeps doing it.
I feel like all anyone who asks for a nerf for something has never played any vet dungeons or trials... all your whiny crap related to PvP is really ruining the game.
What ZOS really needs to do is completely separate PvP mechanics from the main game. Meaning applying stat caps and cooldowns in the right places for every player that enters Cyrodiil.2 -
Club_meddSoul ShrivenStop crying please, you guys that are always crying because they got beat are ruining the game.1
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of
The WORD is definitely out. Sorcs OP. Sorcs EZ-Mode. Sorcs meta for Morrowind. Play a sorc or nothing at all.
Last night I tore apart or dismantled more terribad newbie Sorcs than I ever have before. It's not even funny how bad they were, how quickly they went down, and how MANY there were.
Keep them coming FOTM, I had an absolute blast.Edited by Minalan on April 25, 2017 4:12PM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ithankyourat wrote: »people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of
The WORD is definitely out. Sorcs OP. Sorcs EZ-Mode. Sorcs meta for Morrowind. Play a sorc or nothing at all.
Last night I tore apart or dismantled more terribad newbie Sorcs than I ever have before. It's not even funny how bad they were, how quickly they went down, and how MANY there were.
Keep them coming FOTM, I had an absolute blast.
It's true. There a lot of poor sorcs out there. It actually takes a fair amount of skill to line up the burst with a CC meaning when your opponent doesn't have immunity. And I just CRINGE when I watch a sorc not re cast Curse... it's so frustrating to watch them let that health bar go back to full0 -
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✭thankyourat wrote: »people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of
The WORD is definitely out. Sorcs OP. Sorcs EZ-Mode. Sorcs meta for Morrowind. Play a sorc or nothing at all.
Last night I tore apart or dismantled more terribad newbie Sorcs than I ever have before. It's not even funny how bad they were, how quickly they went down, and how MANY there were.
Keep them coming FOTM, I had an absolute blast.
What class were you playing?0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Darnathian wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of
The WORD is definitely out. Sorcs OP. Sorcs EZ-Mode. Sorcs meta for Morrowind. Play a sorc or nothing at all.
Last night I tore apart or dismantled more terribad newbie Sorcs than I ever have before. It's not even funny how bad they were, how quickly they went down, and how MANY there were.
Keep them coming FOTM, I had an absolute blast.
What class were you playing?
Stam Nightblade and a Sorc. Both were great fun.0 -
zuto40✭✭✭✭✭It's just pirate skeleton that's *** me up, I can't burst through 2 shields with it onStamblade- Legate
Tank/Heals Templar- Sergeant
Magic DK- Corporal
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭thankyourat wrote: »people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of
While I don't want to take anything away from your argument, I have been playing a sniper lately and all I see is DKs. It's probably not because there are that many more DKs than anything else, but more that it's the only class that I can't pop with 1-2 snipes even when they are on horseback with defenses down. In other words, people remember what gave them fits and not what they actually saw.
I am personally not convinced sorcs are a problem now, but am a bit worried they will be after the xpac lands if the changes stay as they are.0 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of
While I don't want to take anything away from your argument, I have been playing a sniper lately and all I see is DKs. It's probably not because there are that many more DKs than anything else, but more that it's the only class that I can't pop with 1-2 snipes even when they are on horseback with defenses down. In other words, people remember what gave them fits and not what they actually saw.
I am personally not convinced sorcs are a problem now, but am a bit worried they will be after the xpac lands if the changes stay as they are.
I notice mag dk's too because I play the only class that is still countered by them. Alot of the mag dk's have disappear though and I couldn't be happier. I'm not convinced specs are a problem either. They are easier to play than most classes but there are very manageable 1v1. I have a problem with lich and pirate skeleton on a sorc because it creates a shield stack that can't be broken by 1 player. Especially since harness magicka return is op so I'm giving them magicka to keep their shields up, and no cc is not the answer. I feared a sorc over 25 times and the only time he ran out of stamina his pirate proc'd and I couldn't burst him down0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »people complaining about how sorcs are op stacking shields with no consequence .. please do me a favor post you playing a sorc in a 1vx situation show how anyone can do it add a little commentary in the video as well so we all know its you ...
the problem is what is called a skill gap plain and simple some people can play sorc very well and it shows the other 90% get destroyed everyone else sees the handful of sorcs that can play like that and assume its a wide spread issue .. i really hate these 3 letters but L2P . your bad please stick to you zerg clearly people of this skill level have zero idea wth is happening just pressing skills with blinders on.. its very sad
This is a bad argument because it's the same with every other class 90% of the players don't know how to play their class, but sorc will be more forgiving for those bad players than the other classes. A sorc who doesn't know how to play can still be pretty survivable without even building for it. The only other class I can say that's true for is magplar. It's probably the reason cyrodiil is full of mag sorcs and magplars. The difference with magplar is that they have no way to burst you down because all their attacks are channeled. Magsorc just seems a little off with the survivability it has and the burst damage it's capable of
While I don't want to take anything away from your argument, I have been playing a sniper lately and all I see is DKs. It's probably not because there are that many more DKs than anything else, but more that it's the only class that I can't pop with 1-2 snipes even when they are on horseback with defenses down. In other words, people remember what gave them fits and not what they actually saw.
I am personally not convinced sorcs are a problem now, but am a bit worried they will be after the xpac lands if the changes stay as they are.
I notice mag dk's too because I play the only class that is still countered by them. Alot of the mag dk's have disappear though and I couldn't be happier. I'm not convinced specs are a problem either. They are easier to play than most classes but there are very manageable 1v1. I have a problem with lich and pirate skeleton on a sorc because it creates a shield stack that can't be broken by 1 player. Especially since harness magicka return is op so I'm giving them magicka to keep their shields up, and no cc is not the answer. I feared a sorc over 25 times and the only time he ran out of stamina his pirate proc'd and I couldn't burst him down
Imagine if someone made a build that kept Panacea up for 85% of the time...
It's not just pirate, it's just an easy access to major protection.
Now imagine x4 5% DMG reduction from players, 8% stacked with that, and then the 30% looking at roughly 80% total mitigation when combined with block.
Just pirate is fotm, we have access to so much that we don't seeEdited by Waffennacht on April 26, 2017 2:50PM0 -
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You talking about a stacked group of 10 and magika nb with prox det right? Not possible on sorc unless it's a 600 cp sorc facing a group of 10 noobs with low cp and no healer spamming bol and healing springsBut really, when you have a class, which can easily tank 10 players, kill them all an then escape very easy, you know there is something wrong with this game...
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✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »Valera Progib wrote: »
Lightning staff shieldbreaker and any sorc is dead.Wreuntzylla wrote: »I bet most of the complainers are stacking crit chance and crit dmg along with penetration to combat hvy armour..
You guys know, right that if you take cp out of crit damage, there is a star you can add it to that increases damage to shields... If you drop spriggarns and instead add a weapon damage set or proc set like hundings or viper...
There's is a set specifically to do damage through shields, also don't oblivion enchants go through too?
Yknow, building to combat shields instead of armour. Of course if everyone did that the boards would be full of heavy armour is op threads instead ..
The game is very rock/paper/scissors. If you want to kill sorcs, you can, you just have to give something else up. Shattering blows is not the answer, though.
I went through about 20 different builds before I settled on a solo build. It wasn't designed to kill sorcs, it just happened to be perfect for it. I use max crit damage and abilities with the highest tooltip... Most sorcs die to the spillover damage. Literally, sorcs 1vX 4-5 players like a boss and when the sorc finishes them off I engage and they pop like a balloon.
I still try various other things as I always want to see if the build can be improved. To make a long story short, I don't think shattering blows works right now. I've tried about 5 different combinations, including 97 shattering and 97 mighty. I see no improvement on getting shields down over any other type of build.
Add in some infused on your staff, oblivion enchant & torug's armor for the lolz too
Combine it with Knight slayer next patch, can't even heal through it for long with Twilight.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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Dk_needs_a_buff✭✭✭I main a sorc and i agree the shields are op. Sinple solution. Stop sorc from using the light gear shield ability.1
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_JohanaB wrote: »We've removed a couple of post from this thread. Please try to only add constructive comments to the conversation.
that is zenimax's stance on this subject.
they made an effort to come to this thread and make it very clear what they plan to do to the sorcerer class.0 -
br0steen✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »ZOS_JohanaB wrote: »We've removed a couple of post from this thread. Please try to only add constructive comments to the conversation.
that is zenimax's stance on this subject.
they made an effort to come to this thread and make it very clear what they plan to do to the sorcerer class.
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sorcerer class simply does too much damage and is able to survive large groups in both pvp and pve.
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✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »
sorcerer class simply does too much damage and is able to survive large groups in both pvp and pve.
All Truth passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed, it is then Violently apposed, Third, it is accepted as being self evident.
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »
sorcerer class simply does too much damage and is able to survive large groups in both pvp and pve.
All Truth passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed, it is then Violently apposed, Third, it is accepted as being self evident.
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
If you want 'truth' so bad, try playing the class for awhile. Then get back to us.
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This thread is full of people that have made this game what it is today.
*inserts ban-able memes*
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✭✭✭✭✭psychotic13 wrote: »So many idiots in this thread, if you really have a problem with sorcs, put some CP in shattering blows.... that's why it's there.
Roll dodge > shields
Shattering blows isnt great and it reduces damage elsewhere.
Dodge roll doesnt dodge all damage and cant be used pre emptively. It also doesnt allow you to go on the offensive while playing defense simultaneously.
I disagree.
1 attacker: shields beat dodge 95% of the time.
2 or more attackers: dodge and block provide better results
But hey - i agree hardened + harness should not be athing, aswell as pirate skeleton. Nothing to do with "sorc shields" though.<Noricum>
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