Don't forget the new front-loaded CP system, that makes investing into penetration a much more viable option.

I'm not a math person though, so no idea, but it seems much more viable than before at least.

Probably not. I've seen posts that say that HA will still be incentivized, but even if people switch to medium armor for the stam regen, sharpened weapons will let people swap out their pen traits sets for sustain sets and IIRC, sharpened hasn't changed so any pen up to the resist of your enemy is a sizeable damage increase. Unfortunately, shifts to PvP meta don't happen instantly and as long as penetration helps you win more fights than it loses, it'll still be a go-to trait.

I could see more magicka/stamina steal glyphs with the enchant chance trait builds starting to edge their way in if people find a way to make that work.

Subversus wrote: »

Majeure wrote: »

Don't forget the new front-loaded CP system, that makes investing into penetration a much more viable option.

I'm not a math person though, so no idea, but it seems much more viable than before at least.

Good point!

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Sharpened will probably still be the highest hitter, honestly.

What about the fact that we have to run more sustain now? Lower damage would make the nirnhorned damage boost much more valuable in theory, right? I guess we have to wait and see for the meta.

We'll definitely see. It's much easier when these things come to live, in my opinion. Much more flexibility to solidly test things in a real PvP environment. I'm all for other traits being viable, so hopefully that becomes the case.

I think nirnhorned should be added to the overland loot table personally. As well as other loot tables. Is not even a great trait, but the variety would be nice...

if you think heavy will be eliminated from PVP meta you will be badly surprised.
But as other pointed out sharpened is still the best trait and probably would be even if everyone was in light armor (shieldless ofc)

Sharpened is equally powerful against all armor types as it's a flat penetration value and most builds still won't contain more total penetration than most LA players' resistances.

With that said, I do expect to find more magicka builds in the field so Nirnhoned might become slightly more useful.

Also as @Majeure said, everybody will have access to a little more base penetration due to CP changes.

I still don't understand why penetration was ever changed to flat values rather than percents. The only legitimate reason to have penetration values in MMOs is to provide a viable counter to high resistance targets at the cost of sacrificing damage against lower resistance targets... It's supposed to be about choices, not pidgeon-holing players into a needing a BIS stat and penetrating their posterior orifice at the point of RNG. These devs are amateurs.