Hardest round in VMA?

Turelus · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Rink for me.

I just seem to die here so damn much, it's normally just so many little hits coming in so fast and I haven't found a way to counter them.

Turelus Those little ice arrows and archer quick shots tend to add-up quickly, don't they? Lol. It also doesn't help that each individual projectile deals around 5k-6k damage per hit. I freaking hate that damn stage.

Oh yeah that's pretty much it. I find I get caught in a cycle of spam my shield (light armour one) and not doing any damage and as such don't heal (Swallow Soul).
I am 100% sure this is a L2P issue and there is an easier work around for this, I am just not there yet.

paulsgruff · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

If I'm going to die in there, it's nearly always going to be on stage 5. I find on most other stages I can make all sorts of strange and wonderful mistakes and still recover, but stage 5 decides that it wants to totally own me sometimes.

Anastian · April 2017

Round 9 – Theater of Despair

So, I have tried VMA for my first time and succeeded in 2 days of trials (average 2 hours and a half per try) and met brick walls at the spider arena (couldn't figure out what was slowing me so hard at first, nor that I could use the hoarvors to unlock more obelisks), the ice arena (couldn't figure out the animation of the boss, when she jumps, at first), and the poison arena (RNG as others said about the mushrooms).
What really, really made me crazy though was the last arena's daedroths. The first one forced me to change my build (albeit slightly) to actually overcome the challenge.
I know I am somewhat a scrub, but I ran it at 380cp, sap-tank build (while it lasts before Morrowind...) with resto/destro staff. For the last stage I just went back to an ignorant destro/sword and shield build just to survive the Daedroth.
Now that I've understood all of the mechanics though I'll try to reduce defenses over and over and focus more on damage

Let's hope for the best! Still, that daedroth is ugly.
Also, edit: I used the sigils only on the third phase of the boss in the ninth arena because I really wanted to finish it. Don't sigils kill the score? I wanted to try running it without to see if I could survive well with no buffs first

darkstar2084 · April 2017

Round 9 – Theater of Despair

last stage is a nightmare with high ping, can do all the others np

Elvenpath · April 2017

Round 7 – Vault of Umbrage

I never die except 5 or 7.

5 is hard to sustain and about timing ulties.
7 is just some sht rng imo. oh boss going to scream, here is your shield man, oh dont forget to step flower near me.

souravami · April 2017

Round 9 – Theater of Despair

I play with a constant 300-350 ping and the last boss is the hardest for me for that exact reason. One random ping spike and I'm dead as you don't have much time to recover in that fight.

Nifty2g · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

The boss on stage 5 is still the worst, such a dumb cleave CC.

Bigevilpeter · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

I'm guessing the 4 that voted the first round haven't even gotten to the second round yet?

akl77 · April 2017

Still yet to complete VMA

Looks like round 5 is the deadliest.

Tryxus · April 2017

Round 6 – Spiral Shadows

Round 6

This was the stage I struggled with the most because no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get all obelisks to light up so I tried several alternatives only for those to fail as well.

I was at it for 2 hrs the first time before I gave up, and during my next try I was again stuck for another 2 hrs there until I finally managed to free all the obelisks and kill that boss (followed by the very satisfying T-bagging of the boss)

Also, my arachnophobia didn't really help in that stage either

Drayzon · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

i would say 5, 7 is not so bad once you know what to watch out for but 5 is bad even when you know it like the back of your hand, very high incoming damage CCs and trolls that can mess up an entire kill rotation

FlyLionel · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

When you farm VMA 100+ times, the only stages that are annoying is the second stage/the frozen stage generally. If you're stam you can just run right through the poisons on umbrage, if you are magic....well harness magicka is easy mode. Once you pass the ice stage it is celebration time! I will give umbrage this though, once you port into the 8th stage you can guarantee without a doubt you've finished. Theater of Despair is the most fun stage =D particularly the last two waves(Burning the Titan always feels great).

Waseem · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

this big blue ice soldier is too stronk with the ammount of ads they spawn! must roll dodge at the right moment or is insta die almost always (even if damage shield is up!)

stage 7 most annoying when shroom explode under a shield and purge is needed or insta death QQ

Mutagem · April 2017

Round 9 – Theater of Despair

akl77 wrote: »

Yea I agree, the rng in this game and vma makes the game hard, not so much about skills.
I've beaten every dark souls game and latest Nioh and got platinum trophy for bloodborn, the chalice dungeon soloing is some real challenge, the boss fight took me for hours over 2 days. Souls series is know for its difficulties and discipline, ESO is nowhere called a difficult game, but the difficulties is at RNG!

lol....."Yet to complete vma"...VMA is harder than any of the SoulBorne games by far. It's not all RNG at all except for round 7 and some of 9....keep telling yourself that though....or saddle up and actually beat it...anyways

Round 9 for sure, Just such a mean mean round. People say RNG for round 7 but nah...there's a lot of touch RNG mechanics in 9 as well such as the white ghosts, the yellow ghosts.

Others might say 5 or 7 but if you're talking first time completions its round 9 all the way imo

ArterionAU · April 2017

Round 7 – Vault of Umbrage

I'm going for flawless At the moment so stage 7 is the most annoying mainly because of the RNG with the mushrooms. Final boss on stage 5 can be annoying sometimes to, all the rest aren't too bad.

Ch4mpTW · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

Drayzon wrote: »

i would say 5, 7 is not so bad once you know what to watch out for but 5 is bad even when you know it like the back of your hand, very high incoming damage CCs and trolls that can mess up an entire kill rotation

Agreed. It's a mess. I mean, it's clear that the mechanic at hand is to interrupt and kill the troll-breakers that spawn. That is the given. However, when you have things like: Ranged attackers hitting for 5k-6k, 2H users who can CC you while bursting you with 10k-13k uppercuts (if not blocked or dodge rolled), trolls that need to be interrupted and killed, wolves biting you for 5k-6k, and still things like ogres and atronaches to deal with? It's just a mixture of frustration. Throw in giants who have a cone-like expanding attack (Shatter), that does as high as 16k damage? It's a recipe for disaster. Take things a step further, and make it so platforms will get destroyed regardless. And of course a final boss who literally can stack hard-CC's on you (something that shouldn't be possible to begin with due to CC-immunity), and you have Stage 5. Did I mention that touching the water on the stage results in 1k-2k immediate damage, that also gradually increases the longer you're exposed to it?

I'm telling you guys. It's something about game developers who always make ice/snow and water levels bs. It doesn't matter the genre. If the game has a part in it that involves ice/snow or water, then expect high amounts of rage to await you. Even Zelda and Mario games are of no exception, believe it or not.

clocksstoppe · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

Round 5 is pure cancer.

Blackbird_V · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

HEUGH DERR DERR GERR GERR GERR DERR

DERR GURR GURR GUR

HOWIYA DERR DERR GURR GURR

... troll spawns.. goes to another platform...

HERR GERR GURR DURR DURR DURR

*Fears you when placing AOE/running there*

GURR GURR GURR GURR

*Uppercut from add*

ded

Ch4mpTW · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

BlackbirdV wrote: »

HEUGH DERR DERR GERR GERR GERR DERR

DERR GURR GURR GUR

HOWIYA DERR DERR GURR GURR

... troll spawns.. goes to another platform...

HERR GERR GURR DURR DURR DURR

*Fears you when placing AOE/running there*

GURR GURR GURR GURR

*Uppercut from add*

ded

Lmao! WTF? For some odd reason, besides making me laugh heavily — I actually understood and can relate to what it is you're trying to get across.

clocksstoppe · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

I should make a warden named "Crematorium Guard" and use the daedroth summoning set in pvp to do psychological warfare.

jrgray93 · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

5 is the hardest, 7 is the most unfair with RNG. vMA is terrible content and needs massive changes. You can't play it on anything not built for pure damage, it has plenty of unfair RNG mechanics, and the RNG reward system is garbage, as has been discussed countless times.

I say all of this as someone with 4 Flawless characters and a 574k score.

Ch4mpTW · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I should make a warden named "Crematorium Guard" and use the daedroth summoning set in pvp to do psychological warfare.

Lmao. Giving people PTSD right and left. You're a savage for that.

Dark_Aether · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

Round 7 is not difficult. Difficulty is something you can improve at, adjust to; you cannot improve at RNG. It is super easy if stupid things do not happen. Round 5 however I found the most challenging at first and had to adjust to it.

FlyLionel · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I should make a warden named "Crematorium Guard" and use the daedroth summoning set in pvp to do psychological warfare.

Lmaoo this would actually work!

Jazbay_Grape · April 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

For me it's a tie between 5 and 7. However, I choose to go with 5 for 1 reason in particular.

While they both are pretty frustratingly bs stages, 7 is a stage of RNG. Meaning that there is a chance that you can do the stage, and have little to no issues at all regarding getting hit by an exploding plant. There's a chance that a mender won't die, and the boss will enrage mid-attack. Resulting in a smooth run.

However... On the flip-side of things, Stage 5 is just pure frustration and bs. I hate that stage. I always have hated that stage, and always will. It's something about video game developers, and making ice/snow stages bs. Always. But in any event, that's the stage where my perfect streak would end at. 99.9% of the time, if I don't get gimped during Stage 5 — it'll be a flawless run. If I do get gimped to stage 5's bs, then it's usually a sign that I'll have 1 to 5 more F-ups awaiting me. This is because I get tilted, and my patience immediately wears thin.

Damn stage is literally amongst the most horribly designed video game forms of content I've ever experienced. And I've played tons of games that'll make you rage, from Dark Souls to Mega Man. Devil May Cry to Ninja Gaiden. Contra to Mortal Kombat 2's AI. Nothing compares to VMA's nonsense. Not even close.

You know what else makes Round 5 fun, when you're playing on Xbox and the islands don't completely load. I had an awesome time with just half of my body appearing above it and then dying from the ice water damage without anyone even near me. So fun.

pod88kk · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

Followed closely but round 7. One must not forget to light candles at the shrine of RNGesus before entering round 7

Dark_Aether · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

BlackbirdV wrote: »

HEUGH DERR DERR GERR GERR GERR DERR

DERR GURR GURR GUR

HOWIYA DERR DERR GURR GURR

... troll spawns.. goes to another platform...

HERR GERR GURR DURR DURR DURR

*Fears you when placing AOE/running there*

GURR GURR GURR GURR

*Uppercut from add*

ded

Reading this, it feels like reliving the worst moments. Lol

Hekaterin · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

Always seem to derp here the most...

Easiest and most enjoyable (if first three aren't counted) for me is the last one, for whatever reason

code65536 · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

BlackbirdV wrote: »

HEUGH DERR DERR GERR GERR GERR DERR

DERR GURR GURR GUR

HOWIYA DERR DERR GURR GURR

... troll spawns.. goes to another platform...

HERR GERR GURR DURR DURR DURR

*Fears you when placing AOE/running there*

GURR GURR GURR GURR

*Uppercut from add*

ded

Yea, the CC's on that fight are so annoying, particularly her sweep which seems to have a much longer range than the animation would suggest. I've gotten CC'ed while trying to target a troll more times than I care to admit.

sekou_trayvond · April 2017

Round 5 – Rink of Frozen Blood

Good to see I may have FINALLY gotten past the hardest round yesterday. That being said, I'm under no illusions that I'm in the clear yet.

I just want to clear VMA once. Just once.