Kodrac wrote: »

Man, that guy doesn't sound very casual LOL. Low CP does not equal casual. What you encountered was a d-bag. D-bags are d-bags regardless of their CP totals.

EDIT: Damn filter.

More often than not, they're the ones over CP160 lol

ok so this answered couple questions for me. i will prob be gettin so kicked from vet dungeons its ganna be Neverwinter all over again.
couse veterans dont wanna play with some greenhorn newbie who never played that dungeon b4 (understanble) shame thers no que for crap players and que for jedi players . something not to lookfarward to lol maybe i wl wait till next year when i m 600 (only lvl49 atm lol

I agree. I'm only cp252 now, have never grouped and probably won't because I don't want to be "that noob" who ruined the group's night. It kinda sucks because I'd like to try a group dungeon but I hate the idea of screwing it up for everyone.

djdc1234 wrote: »

Gordon906 wrote: »

Theyre all over the place, those under cp160 farmers in vet dungeon and they get mad when someone calls them out. They brag about their life and how you take it too seriously. If you're a casual than why would you do dlc vet dungeons? This cp34 guy was so pissed because he failed to defeat a boss many times in vet ruins of mazzatun(we left because gear repair cost) that he private messaged me and wished that I get "gunned down" then he ignored :P not even once.

I personally try not to run with anyone under 300 in a vet pledge dungeon. Really depending on what's dungeon it is. Kick and Q

Lol, I love how 90% of the forums community are trolls. You guys spend all day posting in many diverse threads about how to improve end game and how to make PvP better, yet flame a dude for not wanting a lowbie to waste his time. Not everybody has time to whipe the same dungeon all day.

Duuuuuh... This again. You know what? Heck, I'll throw a list here and then will just quote it, when this arises next time.

1) Casuals do not ruin pledges. Bad players who do not wish to learn ruin vet pledges.

It is honestly beyond me, why high-CP people (obviously playing game for a while people) who obviously should struggle even in normal dungeons queue for vet. For god's sake, what do you expect? You have no rotation, you can't kill s**t, why do you queue for vet? What, you think it will be easier?

2) Honest casuals are victums of the compeletely messed up system.

a) Game doesn't teach anything.

Yep, it has been told, it will be told. The difference between overworld content and dungeons/trials is enormous. A lot of people do not learn, because there is no reason to. And then... Then people often get their eyes opened by the harshest way possible. By high-lvl players who say, "Omg, you so s**k, go research some builds ffs".

They can be understood: facing the ineptitude on the constant basis is tedious. But will casuals actually research and learn after something like that? The majority won't. They will assume they simply met elitistic d-bad, try again, fail and fail and fail and then give up. Getting more and more irritation and dragging down more and more players while "failing and failing and...".

b) Game ranges difficulty in the most stupid way possible.

Why in the world is Fingal Grotto II opened almost right after Fungal Grotto I? FFS, in terms of difficulty they are different like earth and heaven! But does game tell you that? Does it somehow warn you? Pfffffff.

Why in the world if someone purchased ESO+, on lvl 20 he/she can get some "easy" dungs (and I use "easy" loosely, exactly because of the II ones)... and DLCs? WHY?!

And then... then they just open all vets. Straight ahead. All vets. OMFG.

I see no reason whatsoever why a CP10-50 player shouldn't be in vet Fungal Grotto I. If they can avoid red they can even finish HM.

But why, why, why is CP50 player is allowed into vet City of Ash II?! Noone wants that. Noone. Including them themselves, because unless you're Dro-Matra-Destroyer-Flawless-Conquerer-Godlike-DPS-b***es you can't carry a low CP DD through vet CoA II! Even if tank and heal are godlike! (Well... then maybe you can... but how long will it take?) It's a failure from the start. By definition. But the game allows it.

You level a char? We will gradually open the dungs for you. Oh wait. We won't. Here are the II ones and DLCs. Enjoy.

You reached CP? Welcome to any vet you desire! They are opened! Come on, try them! We know, you want to!

I don't have access to statistics, but I'm ready to bet... Only the minority are honest d-bags. The majority are the honesy victims of the system.

If you use group finder, be prepared to deal with whoever turns up. If you want to be fussy about who you want to run with or what skills, builds, or how good they are, go and find your own dungeon friends and stay away from group finder.

Casuals are playing the game.


The number of CPs doesn't have anything to do with a player's skill or lack of. You can button mash your way to 600 CPs without ever stepping foot in any group dungeon.

disintegr8 wrote: »

If you use group finder, be prepared to deal with whoever turns up. If you want to be fussy about who you want to run with or what skills, builds, or how good they are, go and find your own dungeon friends and stay away from group finder.

yeah this guy makin sense

A CP34 going into a Vet DLC Dungeon?

BillK wrote: »

I agree. I'm only cp252 now, have never grouped and probably won't because I don't want to be "that noob" who ruined the group's night. It kinda sucks because I'd like to try a group dungeon but I hate the idea of screwing it up for everyone.

Join a guild and run with players who enjoy showing the ropes to people Well, or you could half jokingly advertise in chat like "newbie cp 252 who has no idea what he's doing lfg for <dungeon> he's never done" or something, I'd totally pick you up on that becase at the very least it means you're capable of speaking English and likely self conscious enough to listen to instructions and not religiously ignore anything said in groupchat.

There're people who pug and love explaining stuff as well(I do), but a lot of the time people have run that instance 3476953974 times by now and they simply want it done with.

Sheva I 7 I wrote: »

I got the best solution, I vote to kick anyone under 250 cp in any vet dungeon, 500 for dlc ones, if someone rejects, I leave myself

Finally I could use insightful as a lol button :-D

paulsimonps wrote: »

You know how to solve this problem? Never PUG. If you want good group, create good groups. Join a guild, get to know the guildies, make friends with them and then do pledges and dungeons together and you will always know what you are gonna get and you can't fault anyone but yourself and your friends if you fail. I never PUG DLC dungeons and I try as much as possible to do all my dungeons with Guildies. It non only makes it easier but creates a better guild atmosphere in where we all do things together and get what we need together all the while having fun in each others company. Why spend several hours a day with random people you despise and blame for every little thing that goes wrong?

This one knows the truth, amen to that brother. I don't get the bashing on either party, there's gamers and then there's non gamers. The community is made up of all kinds of players, why set terms and conditions on how to do well in the community. Its just different priorities by each player.