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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

Ebon or Plague Doctor?

  • Gargath
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    It seems obvious that for people wearing ebon any other build without ebon will be a bad build, no matter how effective you are, if you don't wear ebon with warhorn you are at least selfish to them.
    PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."
  • Tasear
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    Pretty much all top end guilds will have a tank running Ebon/Alkosh and one running Powerful Assault/Alkosh.

    Ebon buff is necessary for end game content. Just like worms is.

    You need to be putting out as much dps as possible so most players will run with 17k hp (they should have about that with undaunted mettle and heavy armor passives with 5-1-1). With ebon armor, that goes up to 18k and with warhorn up they will have around 19.5k-20k hp. That is what keeps them alive and still pushing out maximum dps.

    If you are struggling to survive with less than 30k hp, then its not the gear's fault. As a matter of fact, the off-tank running Powerful Assault/Alkosh will have more like 24k hp.

    Only cause DPS doesn't know how to be supportive.

    Hircine
    Night mother's gaze
    Alkoash
    Sunderflame

    These are DPS sets
  • Nifty2g
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    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Flameheart wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Qyrk wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Ebon sucks. Wow you give your group an extra 1k health.. big whoop. I beat Chudan on vet solo on my blazing shield tank.

    Oh my Vet RoM....big whoop. Try tanking like the big boys and you'll soon praising Ebon....

    Its only 1k health. Get over yourself, stop being jealous. That was Vet RoM solo. Much better sets out there for groups.

    No really, go tank a Veteran Trial. Solo builds on a veteran dungeon is not the same as 12 man group tanking a Veteran Trial Boss. Please go into Veteran Hel Ra as a Blazeplar and tell me how it goes.

    went fine. now what?
    ps

    Whatever man, all talk no proof, not gonna engage a troll like you any more. Try actually tanking and contributing in a veteran trial, better yet a veteran Hardmode trial and you won't be saying Ebon is a bad set much longer. Selfish tanking is no tanking at all.

    @paulsimonps you can expect that attitude from a dps only. They are already thinking of themselfs as "gods" or whatever because they pull those 40k+ ePenises out. So they think of themself if they can go with those numbers without "contributing" to the group in any ways (for example BSW), that it works the same with tanking and healing. They are not trolls, just special snowflakes.

    A dps would know that 1k health and the ability to spent that bonus health into more damage while still having around 18k health with Ebon bonus - which is just the value that usually prevents oneshots - is priceless.

    So from the comments he is just a special snowflake.

    That 1k isn't what is preventing one shots. You can swap out the ebon set and you won't notice a difference. I used to run ebon.... but then I evolved. I would tell you my build but its been patented and I do not own the rights to it. Posting it here would put me in violation of the NDA I had to sign.
    haha, what are you on

    A computer.
    Use your computer to google what rhetorical question means
    #MOREORBS
  • paulsimonps
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Pretty much all top end guilds will have a tank running Ebon/Alkosh and one running Powerful Assault/Alkosh.

    Ebon buff is necessary for end game content. Just like worms is.

    You need to be putting out as much dps as possible so most players will run with 17k hp (they should have about that with undaunted mettle and heavy armor passives with 5-1-1). With ebon armor, that goes up to 18k and with warhorn up they will have around 19.5k-20k hp. That is what keeps them alive and still pushing out maximum dps.

    If you are struggling to survive with less than 30k hp, then its not the gear's fault. As a matter of fact, the off-tank running Powerful Assault/Alkosh will have more like 24k hp.

    Only cause DPS doesn't know how to be supportive.

    Hircine
    Night mother's gaze
    Alkoash
    Sunderflame

    These are DPS sets

    Those are all stamina sets. Sadly stamina is basically not used in end game fights. Also its better for tanks to use Alkosh than DPS since tanks use synergies all the time anyway.
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Flameheart wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Qyrk wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Ebon sucks. Wow you give your group an extra 1k health.. big whoop. I beat Chudan on vet solo on my blazing shield tank.

    Oh my Vet RoM....big whoop. Try tanking like the big boys and you'll soon praising Ebon....

    Its only 1k health. Get over yourself, stop being jealous. That was Vet RoM solo. Much better sets out there for groups.

    No really, go tank a Veteran Trial. Solo builds on a veteran dungeon is not the same as 12 man group tanking a Veteran Trial Boss. Please go into Veteran Hel Ra as a Blazeplar and tell me how it goes.

    went fine. now what?
    ps

    Whatever man, all talk no proof, not gonna engage a troll like you any more. Try actually tanking and contributing in a veteran trial, better yet a veteran Hardmode trial and you won't be saying Ebon is a bad set much longer. Selfish tanking is no tanking at all.

    @paulsimonps you can expect that attitude from a dps only. They are already thinking of themselfs as "gods" or whatever because they pull those 40k+ ePenises out. So they think of themself if they can go with those numbers without "contributing" to the group in any ways (for example BSW), that it works the same with tanking and healing. They are not trolls, just special snowflakes.

    A dps would know that 1k health and the ability to spent that bonus health into more damage while still having around 18k health with Ebon bonus - which is just the value that usually prevents oneshots - is priceless.

    So from the comments he is just a special snowflake.

    That 1k isn't what is preventing one shots. You can swap out the ebon set and you won't notice a difference. I used to run ebon.... but then I evolved. I would tell you my build but its been patented and I do not own the rights to it. Posting it here would put me in violation of the NDA I had to sign.
    haha, what are you on

    A computer.
    Use your computer to google what rhetorical question means

    Done. Now what?
  • Gordon906
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    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Flameheart wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Qyrk wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Ebon sucks. Wow you give your group an extra 1k health.. big whoop. I beat Chudan on vet solo on my blazing shield tank.

    Oh my Vet RoM....big whoop. Try tanking like the big boys and you'll soon praising Ebon....

    Its only 1k health. Get over yourself, stop being jealous. That was Vet RoM solo. Much better sets out there for groups.

    No really, go tank a Veteran Trial. Solo builds on a veteran dungeon is not the same as 12 man group tanking a Veteran Trial Boss. Please go into Veteran Hel Ra as a Blazeplar and tell me how it goes.

    went fine. now what?
    ps

    Whatever man, all talk no proof, not gonna engage a troll like you any more. Try actually tanking and contributing in a veteran trial, better yet a veteran Hardmode trial and you won't be saying Ebon is a bad set much longer. Selfish tanking is no tanking at all.

    @paulsimonps you can expect that attitude from a dps only. They are already thinking of themselfs as "gods" or whatever because they pull those 40k+ ePenises out. So they think of themself if they can go with those numbers without "contributing" to the group in any ways (for example BSW), that it works the same with tanking and healing. They are not trolls, just special snowflakes.

    A dps would know that 1k health and the ability to spent that bonus health into more damage while still having around 18k health with Ebon bonus - which is just the value that usually prevents oneshots - is priceless.

    So from the comments he is just a special snowflake.

    That 1k isn't what is preventing one shots. You can swap out the ebon set and you won't notice a difference. I used to run ebon.... but then I evolved. I would tell you my build but its been patented and I do not own the rights to it. Posting it here would put me in violation of the NDA I had to sign.
    haha, what are you on

    A computer.
    Use your computer to google what rhetorical question means

    Done. Now what?

    Learn
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Gordon906 wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Flameheart wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Qyrk wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Ebon sucks. Wow you give your group an extra 1k health.. big whoop. I beat Chudan on vet solo on my blazing shield tank.

    Oh my Vet RoM....big whoop. Try tanking like the big boys and you'll soon praising Ebon....

    Its only 1k health. Get over yourself, stop being jealous. That was Vet RoM solo. Much better sets out there for groups.

    No really, go tank a Veteran Trial. Solo builds on a veteran dungeon is not the same as 12 man group tanking a Veteran Trial Boss. Please go into Veteran Hel Ra as a Blazeplar and tell me how it goes.

    went fine. now what?
    ps

    Whatever man, all talk no proof, not gonna engage a troll like you any more. Try actually tanking and contributing in a veteran trial, better yet a veteran Hardmode trial and you won't be saying Ebon is a bad set much longer. Selfish tanking is no tanking at all.

    @paulsimonps you can expect that attitude from a dps only. They are already thinking of themselfs as "gods" or whatever because they pull those 40k+ ePenises out. So they think of themself if they can go with those numbers without "contributing" to the group in any ways (for example BSW), that it works the same with tanking and healing. They are not trolls, just special snowflakes.

    A dps would know that 1k health and the ability to spent that bonus health into more damage while still having around 18k health with Ebon bonus - which is just the value that usually prevents oneshots - is priceless.

    So from the comments he is just a special snowflake.

    That 1k isn't what is preventing one shots. You can swap out the ebon set and you won't notice a difference. I used to run ebon.... but then I evolved. I would tell you my build but its been patented and I do not own the rights to it. Posting it here would put me in violation of the NDA I had to sign.
    haha, what are you on

    A computer.
    Use your computer to google what rhetorical question means

    Done. Now what?

    Learn

    Done. And then? P.S. Ebon sucks. 1k hp does not make or break a group.
    Edited by Dr_Ganknstein on March 24, 2017 10:46PM
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Gordon906 wrote: »
    I have had bad experience with ebon armory after spending weeks farming it. One group in the veteran argonian ruin dugeon was compalining about my 30k health because the poison attacks in chudan keeps killing me. Should I go plague doctor instead of ebon so I have 5k more health since people at ungreatful about me giving them extra health? Wearing the ebon really man my stats look bad so should i switch?

    LOL its not the armor killing you its your reflexes bouble tap out of that poision back and forth. or just bash his ass
  • xblackroxe
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Flameheart wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Qyrk wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Ebon sucks. Wow you give your group an extra 1k health.. big whoop. I beat Chudan on vet solo on my blazing shield tank.

    Oh my Vet RoM....big whoop. Try tanking like the big boys and you'll soon praising Ebon....

    Its only 1k health. Get over yourself, stop being jealous. That was Vet RoM solo. Much better sets out there for groups.

    No really, go tank a Veteran Trial. Solo builds on a veteran dungeon is not the same as 12 man group tanking a Veteran Trial Boss. Please go into Veteran Hel Ra as a Blazeplar and tell me how it goes.

    went fine. now what?
    ps

    Whatever man, all talk no proof, not gonna engage a troll like you any more. Try actually tanking and contributing in a veteran trial, better yet a veteran Hardmode trial and you won't be saying Ebon is a bad set much longer. Selfish tanking is no tanking at all.

    @paulsimonps you can expect that attitude from a dps only. They are already thinking of themselfs as "gods" or whatever because they pull those 40k+ ePenises out. So they think of themself if they can go with those numbers without "contributing" to the group in any ways (for example BSW), that it works the same with tanking and healing. They are not trolls, just special snowflakes.

    A dps would know that 1k health and the ability to spent that bonus health into more damage while still having around 18k health with Ebon bonus - which is just the value that usually prevents oneshots - is priceless.

    So from the comments he is just a special snowflake.

    That 1k isn't what is preventing one shots. You can swap out the ebon set and you won't notice a difference. I used to run ebon.... but then I evolved. I would tell you my build but its been patented and I do not own the rights to it. Posting it here would put me in violation of the NDA I had to sign.
    haha, what are you on

    A computer.
    Use your computer to google what rhetorical question means

    Im sry but theres no coming back from. You got rekt hard D:
    Member of HODOR

    Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Flameheart wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Qyrk wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Ebon sucks. Wow you give your group an extra 1k health.. big whoop. I beat Chudan on vet solo on my blazing shield tank.

    Oh my Vet RoM....big whoop. Try tanking like the big boys and you'll soon praising Ebon....

    Its only 1k health. Get over yourself, stop being jealous. That was Vet RoM solo. Much better sets out there for groups.

    No really, go tank a Veteran Trial. Solo builds on a veteran dungeon is not the same as 12 man group tanking a Veteran Trial Boss. Please go into Veteran Hel Ra as a Blazeplar and tell me how it goes.

    went fine. now what?
    ps

    Whatever man, all talk no proof, not gonna engage a troll like you any more. Try actually tanking and contributing in a veteran trial, better yet a veteran Hardmode trial and you won't be saying Ebon is a bad set much longer. Selfish tanking is no tanking at all.

    @paulsimonps you can expect that attitude from a dps only. They are already thinking of themselfs as "gods" or whatever because they pull those 40k+ ePenises out. So they think of themself if they can go with those numbers without "contributing" to the group in any ways (for example BSW), that it works the same with tanking and healing. They are not trolls, just special snowflakes.

    A dps would know that 1k health and the ability to spent that bonus health into more damage while still having around 18k health with Ebon bonus - which is just the value that usually prevents oneshots - is priceless.

    So from the comments he is just a special snowflake.

    That 1k isn't what is preventing one shots. You can swap out the ebon set and you won't notice a difference. I used to run ebon.... but then I evolved. I would tell you my build but its been patented and I do not own the rights to it. Posting it here would put me in violation of the NDA I had to sign.
    haha, what are you on

    A computer.
    Use your computer to google what rhetorical question means

    Im sry but theres no coming back from. You got rekt hard D:[/quote]

    Coming back? I never left.....
    Edited by Dr_Ganknstein on March 24, 2017 11:43PM
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Gordon906 wrote: »
    I have had bad experience with ebon armory after spending weeks farming it. One group in the veteran argonian ruin dugeon was compalining about my 30k health because the poison attacks in chudan keeps killing me. Should I go plague doctor instead of ebon so I have 5k more health since people at ungreatful about me giving them extra health? Wearing the ebon really man my stats look bad so should i switch?

    LOL its not the armor killing you its your reflexes bouble tap out of that poision back and forth. or just bash his ass

    Exactly. 1k hp isnt your problem. Ebon is a trash set thats worn just for the glowly balls look. Lot of us joked around about how worthless it is at last years professional ESO player convention.
    Edited by Dr_Ganknstein on March 24, 2017 11:44PM
  • Stania
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    Icky wrote: »
    Stania wrote: »
    I didn't know a videogame class build could be patented. Is that even possible? Does ZoS have a word on that?

    We had ZoS sign the agreement as well. They are not allowed to divulge any information pertaining to Project Bügeleisen Gott.

    Sorry, but I couldn't avoid laughing and find it hard to believe. What will happen if there's someone in any of the servers who have thought on the same build? Will Project Bügeleisen Gott sue them and force them to re-spec or change their armor unless they pay for royalties or have paid for the guide?

    Either way, truth or lie, whoever seeks to appropriate a playstyle from a game which moto is "play as you want", specially with the intention of profit, is a complete and utter ***.
    PC NA server
    ¡Hablo español!
    |vet trial #1|vet trial #2|vet trial #3 HM|Another vet trial|a hard-to-get achievement|
    My characters:
    <List of characters that no one cares to know with their classes and roles>

    "Inspirational quote"
  • Nifty2g
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    Icky wrote: »
    Gordon906 wrote: »
    I have had bad experience with ebon armory after spending weeks farming it. One group in the veteran argonian ruin dugeon was compalining about my 30k health because the poison attacks in chudan keeps killing me. Should I go plague doctor instead of ebon so I have 5k more health since people at ungreatful about me giving them extra health? Wearing the ebon really man my stats look bad so should i switch?

    LOL its not the armor killing you its your reflexes bouble tap out of that poision back and forth. or just bash his ass

    Exactly. 1k hp isnt your problem. Ebon is a trash set thats worn just for the glowly balls look. Lot of us joked around about how worthless it is at last years professional ESO player convention.
    It's actually 1,118 extra health that i believe gets amps from CP and food and then ontop of that it also gets amps from warhorn, so you're looking at close to 2,000 extra health. Stop acting like you know more than everyone else and there is some holy grail tank build.
    There is too many damage line ups in a lot of trials that will just kill you with little reaction time easy fix is it to use ebon. there is no getting good or whatever with some of the stupid damage lineups that can occur where ebon will save you for the most part, you can't just keep saying a 1 shot is a 1 shot, what if I start using green food cause with blue food if it's a 1 shot so it will 1 shot me anyway.

    There isn't much a tank can run anyway other than torugs, powerful assault, ebon, dragon even, but the fights are too short for warhorn to beat powerful assault anyway. And running powerful assault as main tank on rakkhat is doable but youd drop ebon and the only people even close to doing something like that is hodor and with someone that *** annoying to do and the amount of rng farming cause stupid damage line ups and with no one else going for scores, i can't speak for them but if it were me, *** that. just use ebon.

    picture for reference in vmol with void spheres and damage line ups.
    wDThMgZ.png
    #MOREORBS
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Stania wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Stania wrote: »
    I didn't know a videogame class build could be patented. Is that even possible? Does ZoS have a word on that?

    We had ZoS sign the agreement as well. They are not allowed to divulge any information pertaining to Project Bügeleisen Gott.

    Sorry, but I couldn't avoid laughing and find it hard to believe. What will happen if there's someone in any of the servers who have thought on the same build? Will Project Bügeleisen Gott sue them and force them to re-spec or change their armor unless they pay for royalties or have paid for the guide?

    Either way, truth or lie, whoever seeks to appropriate a playstyle from a game which moto is "play as you want", specially with the intention of profit, is a complete and utter ***.

    I also couldn't avoid laughing. Sue them? Please. The last project my team worked on was Operation Blackbriar. Need I say more? Lets just say if anyone leaks anything within our team we do not "sue" them. No one in the game has came close to the Project Bügeleisen Gott build. We have people on "the inside" that will alert us if anyone ever does. This build is far too powerful and is not ready for public use as of yet.
    Edited by Dr_Ganknstein on March 25, 2017 12:04AM
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Gordon906 wrote: »
    I have had bad experience with ebon armory after spending weeks farming it. One group in the veteran argonian ruin dugeon was compalining about my 30k health because the poison attacks in chudan keeps killing me. Should I go plague doctor instead of ebon so I have 5k more health since people at ungreatful about me giving them extra health? Wearing the ebon really man my stats look bad so should i switch?

    LOL its not the armor killing you its your reflexes bouble tap out of that poision back and forth. or just bash his ass

    Exactly. 1k hp isnt your problem. Ebon is a trash set thats worn just for the glowly balls look. Lot of us joked around about how worthless it is at last years professional ESO player convention.
    It's actually 1,118 extra health that i believe gets amps from CP and food and then ontop of that it also gets amps from warhorn, so you're looking at close to 2,000 extra health.

    I didn't think about that. You're right. I changed my mind, I now agree with you guys. Project Bügeleisen Gott will be abolished immediately. Lets just hope its not too late.

  • Gordon906
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    Icky wrote: »
    Stania wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Stania wrote: »
    I didn't know a videogame class build could be patented. Is that even possible? Does ZoS have a word on that?

    We had ZoS sign the agreement as well. They are not allowed to divulge any information pertaining to Project Bügeleisen Gott.

    Sorry, but I couldn't avoid laughing and find it hard to believe. What will happen if there's someone in any of the servers who have thought on the same build? Will Project Bügeleisen Gott sue them and force them to re-spec or change their armor unless they pay for royalties or have paid for the guide?

    Either way, truth or lie, whoever seeks to appropriate a playstyle from a game which moto is "play as you want", specially with the intention of profit, is a complete and utter ***.

    I also couldn't avoid laughing. Sue them? Please. The last project my team worked on was Operation Blackbriar. Need I say more? Lets just say if anyone leaks anything within our team we do not "sue" them. No one in the game has came close to the Project Bügeleisen Gott build. We have people on "the inside" that will alert us if anyone ever does. This build is far too powerful and is not ready for public use as of yet.

    And I thought I was taking the game too seriously. I didn't know that you would treat a mmorpg game build like some classified information .
  • Stania
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    Gordon906 wrote: »
    And I thought I was taking the game too seriously. I didn't know that you would treat a mmorpg game build like some classified information .

    Because it's too holy for mortal eyes to behold and beyond our current comprehension. The humanity is not ready for it yet. :p
    PC NA server
    ¡Hablo español!
    |vet trial #1|vet trial #2|vet trial #3 HM|Another vet trial|a hard-to-get achievement|
    My characters:
    <List of characters that no one cares to know with their classes and roles>

    "Inspirational quote"
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    This is what happened to the team members that discovered my build (RIP Dr. Ellijah and Dr. Bloomberg):https://youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZpsbGr7s8
  • Gordon906
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    Icky wrote: »
    This is what happened to the team members that discovered my build (RIP Dr. Ellijah and Dr. Bloomberg):https://youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZpsbGr7s8
    Lol no one cares
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Gordon906 wrote: »
    I have had bad experience with ebon armory after spending weeks farming it. One group in the veteran argonian ruin dugeon was compalining about my 30k health because the poison attacks in chudan keeps killing me. Should I go plague doctor instead of ebon so I have 5k more health since people at ungreatful about me giving them extra health? Wearing the ebon really man my stats look bad so should i switch?

    LOL its not the armor killing you its your reflexes bouble tap out of that poision back and forth. or just bash his ass

    Exactly. 1k hp isnt your problem. Ebon is a trash set thats worn just for the glowly balls look. Lot of us joked around about how worthless it is at last years professional ESO player convention.
    It's actually 1,118 extra health that i believe gets amps from CP and food and then ontop of that it also gets amps from warhorn, so you're looking at close to 2,000 extra health. Stop acting like you know more than everyone else and there is some holy grail tank build.
    There is too many damage line ups in a lot of trials that will just kill you with little reaction time easy fix is it to use ebon. there is no getting good or whatever with some of the stupid damage lineups that can occur where ebon will save you for the most part, you can't just keep saying a 1 shot is a 1 shot, what if I start using green food cause with blue food if it's a 1 shot so it will 1 shot me anyway.

    There isn't much a tank can run anyway other than torugs, powerful assault, ebon, dragon even, but the fights are too short for warhorn to beat powerful assault anyway. And running powerful assault as main tank on rakkhat is doable but youd drop ebon and the only people even close to doing something like that is hodor and with someone that *** annoying to do and the amount of rng farming cause stupid damage line ups and with no one else going for scores, i can't speak for them but if it were me, *** that. just use ebon.

    picture for reference in vmol with void spheres and damage line ups.
    wDThMgZ.png

    ive tanked VR Ra in 5 /5 of the hist armor and blood spawn . all those VR dungeons are just yawn now. really health is probably the least important resource in the whole game on a priority scale. CP and no caps have actually made this game worse.
  • Gordon906
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Gordon906 wrote: »
    I have had bad experience with ebon armory after spending weeks farming it. One group in the veteran argonian ruin dugeon was compalining about my 30k health because the poison attacks in chudan keeps killing me. Should I go plague doctor instead of ebon so I have 5k more health since people at ungreatful about me giving them extra health? Wearing the ebon really man my stats look bad so should i switch?

    LOL its not the armor killing you its your reflexes bouble tap out of that poision back and forth. or just bash his ass

    Exactly. 1k hp isnt your problem. Ebon is a trash set thats worn just for the glowly balls look. Lot of us joked around about how worthless it is at last years professional ESO player convention.
    It's actually 1,118 extra health that i believe gets amps from CP and food and then ontop of that it also gets amps from warhorn, so you're looking at close to 2,000 extra health. Stop acting like you know more than everyone else and there is some holy grail tank build.
    There is too many damage line ups in a lot of trials that will just kill you with little reaction time easy fix is it to use ebon. there is no getting good or whatever with some of the stupid damage lineups that can occur where ebon will save you for the most part, you can't just keep saying a 1 shot is a 1 shot, what if I start using green food cause with blue food if it's a 1 shot so it will 1 shot me anyway.

    There isn't much a tank can run anyway other than torugs, powerful assault, ebon, dragon even, but the fights are too short for warhorn to beat powerful assault anyway. And running powerful assault as main tank on rakkhat is doable but youd drop ebon and the only people even close to doing something like that is hodor and with someone that *** annoying to do and the amount of rng farming cause stupid damage line ups and with no one else going for scores, i can't speak for them but if it were me, *** that. just use ebon.

    picture for reference in vmol with void spheres and damage line ups.
    wDThMgZ.png

    ive tanked VR Ra in 5 /5 of the hist armor and blood spawn . all those VR dungeons are just yawn now. really health is probably the least important resource in the whole game on a priority scale. CP and no caps have actually made this game worse.

    So you used 2bloodspawn 5 histbark and what about weapon and jewelry? I would like to know
  • Gordon906
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    Icky wrote: »
    This is what happened to the team members that discovered my build (RIP Dr. Ellijah and Dr. Bloomberg):https://youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZpsbGr7s8
    Lol zos signed an agreement and handed a super dangerous face melting build to a knuckle head like you and now you're bragging about it while ranting ebon.
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    And zos doesnt make builds
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Gordon906 wrote: »
    And zos doesnt make builds

    zos are the creators, we merely discovered the ultimate death face mega god, combination. We were contacted by zos via telephone a few days after testing the build. Apparently it was so powerful that it set some kind of alarm off. Zos security forces utilized satellites to monitor our tests. A few days later we get the call and they made us agree to never "gold out" our build. Not until further testing of course but that could take years.
  • Gordon906
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    Icky wrote: »
    Gordon906 wrote: »
    And zos doesnt make builds

    zos are the creators, we merely discovered the ultimate death face mega god, combination. We were contacted by zos via telephone a few days after testing the build. Apparently it was so powerful that it set some kind of alarm off. Zos security forces utilized satellites to monitor our tests. A few days later we get the call and they made us agree to never "gold out" our build. Not until further testing of course but that could take years.

    quite a story.
  • Duckbutta
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    Gordon906 wrote: »
    I have had bad experience with ebon armory after spending weeks farming it. One group in the veteran argonian ruin dugeon was compalining about my 30k health because the poison attacks in chudan keeps killing me. Should I go plague doctor instead of ebon so I have 5k more health since people at ungreatful about me giving them extra health? Wearing the ebon really man my stats look bad so should i switch?

    For group content you definitely want Ebon, Plague Dr is gahbage.
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  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Gordon906 wrote: »
    Icky wrote: »
    Gordon906 wrote: »
    And zos doesnt make builds

    zos are the creators, we merely discovered the ultimate death face mega god, combination. We were contacted by zos via telephone a few days after testing the build. Apparently it was so powerful that it set some kind of alarm off. Zos security forces utilized satellites to monitor our tests. A few days later we get the call and they made us agree to never "gold out" our build. Not until further testing of course but that could take years.

    quite a story.

    thanks for reading.
  • Fallen_Ray
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    Icky wrote: »
    Ebon sucks. Wow you give your group an extra 1k health.. big whoop. I beat Chudan on vet solo on my blazing shield tank.

    Agree, requiring 5 pieces just to give your group 1k is sorta dull. If the bonus were to be higher around 2500 or so then I'd say otherwise.
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    Well, in my case Ebon gives me sufficient HP to run a full stamina build and use maximum magicka + magicka recovery drink to balance out my resource pools, instead of tri-stat food/drink. The healing received bonus is also far from useless on a tank. So Ebon is clearly the better set, for PVE.
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  • xRIVALENx
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    Ebon would be excellent on a support tank or secondary tank for trials, for content only requiring one tank I don't see the point at all. If your glass cannon dps cannot survive without that 1k - 2k health increase then it is a fault of their own and maybe they need to rethink how they play.
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