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Tips for pugs who frequently get kicked for weak dps

  • Khivas_Carrick
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    Also, you probably suck yourself if you gotta make a rant on the forums.

    Or maybe you're an elitist ***, who knows, but lighten up a little.
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  • Heroeric1337
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    1. Make sure to set your group role to what you actually do.
    2. DO NOT COME IN WITH HEAVY ARMOR IF YOUR A DPS
    3. DO NOT USE A 2 hander in vet dungeons
    4. DO NOT SPAM LIGHT ATTACKS AND POISON INJECTION WITH YOUR BOW
    5.DO NOT GO WEREWOLF FORM IN VET DUNGEONS AROUND ME

    The title of this thread should be changed to "How to take the fun out of group events"
  • max_only
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    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"
    Edited by max_only on March 17, 2017 7:40PM
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  • nursingninja
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    The OP is absolutely right. I'm all for taking extra time to help but not for wasting time on a run I know from experience will fail. If you don't have the typing skills to Google builds then you should stay in the normal dungeons. Not saying you can't play. Just saying that you shouldn't presume that people are lining up to carry you.
  • Ihatenightblades
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    Don't tell people what to do and they will not tell you where to go.

    You really should calm down with this elitism. People can run around in 7 heavy to level it up, nobody needs approval from someone like you.

    Get real.


    Triggered LOL

    Nobody telling you how to play

    I said TIPS ON HOW TO NOT GET KICKED.

    And unlike you I actually gave good tips that people get kicked for.

    What are you helping with? Getting kicked more often?

    Your delusional for thinking that people
    Dont get kicked everyday all the time

    This message is to help them and i states FACTS.

    A spamming light attack bow is not attractive
    2 hander is not attractive
    Heavy armor dps is not attractive

    If you like to use them fine im not telling you what to do.

    Just dont complain when you get Kicked LOL
  • Supersomething
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    OP is a pro player guys. We should all be so fortunate for him to grace us with his five universal truths on playing video games or in this case how to play ESO correctly as dictated by the master of universe, the OP. We are unworthy.

    On another note waffles or pancakes? I'm a waffle man myself.
    Edited by Supersomething on March 17, 2017 7:42PM
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  • cjthibs
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    On another note waffles or pancakes? I'm a waffle man myself.

    Can I pick French Toast?
  • Supersomething
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    On another note waffles or pancakes? I'm a waffle man myself.

    Can I pick French Toast?

    Oh I totally forgot about French Toast, of course you can.
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  • cyclonus11
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    I enjoy waffles and pancakes equally. Just add peanut butter and syrup and I'm gtg.
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    On another note waffles or pancakes? I'm a waffle man myself.

    Can I pick French Toast?

    Nope, you get kicked from thread for that.
    *BOOT*
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  • vamp_emily
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    I'm not good at DPS but Little Miss Emily pulled 50k DPS once. The DPS gods loved me that day, but they disappeared on me :( now I only do 30-32k dps.

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
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  • cjthibs
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    cyclonus11 wrote: »
    I enjoy waffles and pancakes equally. Just add peanut butter and syrup and I'm gtg.

    Peanut Butter and syrup? ...how have I never tried this?!

    Some banana slices too...?
  • Danksta
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    Why so many hurt feelings? i said no hard feelings hahaha

    Dont be fooled by the comments newbies if you do any of the following i listed you are most likely to get kicked .

    Remember .

    NO LIGNT ATTACKS WITH BOW
    NO 2 HANDER
    NO HEAVY ARMOR DPS
    NO WEREWOLF FORM

    alot of the people who commented are not really looking out for you.

    They say " dont worry we are all nice we play for fun we wont kick you just because you dont have Good dps"

    Ya unfortunately thats not the case you WILL get kicked for doing things like i stated above.

    And btw i always give everybody a chance with first boss to see how dps goes then i judge .

    The only people here defending spamming light attack with bow and using 2 hander and heavy armor ARE THE ONES USING THEM LOOOL

    They simply triggered by truth lol i would rather seem like a a**hole and actually help you then be like these guys on the forums who say i dont care what you use i just want to have "fun"

    Just ignore those people lol and take my advice .

    If your a stamina dps you should be usint DW and Bow on back bar thats the only options you have to be good dps. Period

    Magicka has more flexibility due to plenty of AOE abilities.

    If u want to run through content with good players and carry you're own weight you should take more time on you're build and it will be worth it :)

    Again no hard feelings just giving real tips instead of the watered down walt disney message everybody here gives - "just play how you like to play the game"

    Lol cheers

    No light attacks with bow?? Somebody needs to learn about weaving.
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  • Ihatenightblades
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    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"


    Can you not read?

    I tell them their dps stinks. For the second time
  • Supersomething
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    I'm not good at DPS but Little Miss Emily pulled 50k DPS once. The DPS gods loved me that day, but they disappeared on me :( now I only do 30-32k dps.

    But how do you feel about the waffle, pancake, french toast debate?
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  • Ertthewolf
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    Haha! You would hate me then....I use a heavy armor werewolf build all the time in vet dungeons. Me and my wife run them with just the two of us, both similar wolf builds. We have no problem with DPS or even heals....I can solo 90% of vet bosses save for a few wacky mechanic one shot ones (Gaymne Bandu to name one....lol) and a few bosses in the DLC dungeons. We actually even just got the achievement for completing vet Volenfell within 20 mins with only us and one Dps.....Who needs heals or a tank right XD

    Below is my stats fully self buffed in werewolf form.

    https://1drv.ms/i/s!AoH1HCoRyD31g2u9-EqWyYlpdXx2

  • ThePonzzz
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    Don't tell people what to do and they will not tell you where to go.

    You really should calm down with this elitism. People can run around in 7 heavy to level it up, nobody needs approval from someone like you.

    Get real.


    Triggered LOL

    Nobody telling you how to play

    I said TIPS ON HOW TO NOT GET KICKED.

    And unlike you I actually gave good tips that people get kicked for.

    What are you helping with? Getting kicked more often?

    Your delusional for thinking that people
    Dont get kicked everyday all the time

    This message is to help them and i states FACTS.

    A spamming light attack bow is not attractive
    2 hander is not attractive
    Heavy armor dps is not attractive

    If you like to use them fine im not telling you what to do.

    Just dont complain when you get Kicked LOL

    You're absolutely right. People are kicked all the time. Usually before the dungeon even starts though. Once someone sees you're not 600 CP or you're wearing a costume/polymorph. It's crazy that PUGs, where the people with little experience, are being put up on display during dungeon diving. Join a guild if you're that hardcore into min/maxing your dungeon experience. Punishing a PUG is just ridiculous.
  • cjthibs
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    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"


    Can you not read?

    I tell them their dps stinks. For the second time

    Ok ok...so...if you've got a friend that has really bad halitosis...

    If you say, 'Dude, your breath reeks!' ...that's something...BUT, if you say 'Dude, your breath reeks, and you should try these uber-awesome mints I found, they really help,' that is called giving advice.

    Make sense?
  • vamp_emily
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    I'm not good at DPS but Little Miss Emily pulled 50k DPS once. The DPS gods loved me that day, but they disappeared on me :( now I only do 30-32k dps.

    But how do you feel about the waffle, pancake, french toast debate?

    I got a question. Do you put gravy on your potatoes?

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
    AW Rank: Grand Warlord 1 ( level 49)

  • Artemiisia
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    On another note waffles or pancakes? I'm a waffle man myself.

    Can I pick French Toast?

    Oh I totally forgot about French Toast, of course you can.

    im waiting for my pizza, with no pineapples !
  • SirAndy
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  • Lynx7386
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    Normally I avoid kicking anyone from my groups. However, last night I joined a vet spindleclutch on my tank... the healer was the only other person using a mic (being able to communicate is a big pet peeve of mine).

    The two dps were a cp54 nightblade using nothing but bow light attack spam, and a cp150~ something nightblade using heavy armor and a 2hander.

    The first 3 spider pack aoe pulls took like 5 minutes each, and nearly all of the damage was coming from myself as the tank. I think even the healer's resto heavy attacks were doing more to the mobs than either of our dps were.

    Imo, you shouldn't be joining veteran dungeons at under 160 cp, and even then you should at least have cp160 armor and enough experience with normal dungeon runs to know how to pull your own weight.
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    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
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    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • Ihatenightblades
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"


    Can you not read?

    I tell them their dps stinks. For the second time

    Ok ok...so...if you've got a friend that has really bad halitosis...

    If you say, 'Dude, your breath reeks!' ...that's something...BUT, if you say 'Dude, your breath reeks, and you should try these uber-awesome mints I found, they really help,' that is called giving advice.

    Make sense?

    Makes total sense thats why im trying to help people unlike you trying to baby them

    Like grow up we arent kids this game is for 18 and up if you cant handle adults telling you what you are doing wrong or in your case if you just baby them all the time and say just play for fun you arent helping at all.




  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Ill give you the light attack bow spam, and maybe even the 7 heavy (my DK can out DPS most pugs in 5 rattlecage, just saying), but the 2H and Werewolf comments are off base. Is 2H meta? No, and I would agree if we were talking Vet trials, but there are people that can out DPS you with a 2H, I promise. As to werewolf, it is admittedly not great in a 5 minute fight, but the burst you can do is pretty amazing. Considering most vet dungeon bosses can be killed in less than a minute, werewolf is absolutely viable. It wasnt that long ago that it was record breaking in DSA to go with 4 werewolves as they could do a 100-0 burn on the last boss.
  • Tornaad
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    Things that will get you kicked by group members ( INCLUDING ME )

    1. Make sure to set your group role to what you actually do.
    2. DO NOT COME IN WITH HEAVY ARMOR IF YOUR A DPS
    3. DO NOT USE A 2 hander in vet dungeons
    4. DO NOT SPAM LIGHT ATTACKS AND POISON INJECTION WITH YOUR BOW
    5.DO NOT GO WEREWOLF FORM IN VET DUNGEONS AROUND ME

    Those 5 actions above will get you kicked in no time by a lot of people including me :)

    Im a nice guy but i dont got time to be sitting there watching u spam light attacks with a bow or sit there with your 23k health heavy armor dps LOL.

    My last advice is to look up dps builds if you are new and struggling. There is no need to try to struggle with a weak dps build dps is very easy to pull off.

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    @Ihatenightblades So basically you're a bully who feels that things have to be done a certain way then?

    I hope I am wrong. Please help me understand your reasoning.

    I can understand number 1 that makes perfect sense.

    For the others though why would that be a problem.

    With number 2, What would prevent someone from being effective in combat if they use heavy armor as a DPS character?

    For number 3, What about a 2 handed weapon prevents you from being effective in a Vet dungeon?

    For number 4 If I were to be really honest with this one, I have not tried a veteran level dungeon yet. I have a character that qualifies level wise for a veteran level dungeon, I just feel I should master the normal level dungeons first. I would like to hear your reasons for why but if that is all they are doing I must say it seems like a rather weak play style.

    For number 5 Why? That makes no sense whatsoever? The only thing I can possibly figure out for why is that you seem to have some kind of personal bias against Werewolves.

    You claim to be a nice guy but if you are going to kick someone from a dungeon just because you don't like something that (for the most part) seems superficial about the way they built and play their character, then that is not nice by any definition. That is bordering on hateful and intolerant. Again I hope I am wrong but if you are willing to instantly kick someone from a group simply because you don't like their armor how can that be taken any other way?


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    Things that will get you kicked by group members ( INCLUDING ME )

    ***Edit - No need to be triggered this is simply for people who dont know why they are getting kicked and would like not to get kicked
    Anymore :)***


    That did not help make it sound more friendly.
    Edited by Tornaad on March 17, 2017 8:29PM
  • cjthibs
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"


    Can you not read?

    I tell them their dps stinks. For the second time

    Ok ok...so...if you've got a friend that has really bad halitosis...

    If you say, 'Dude, your breath reeks!' ...that's something...BUT, if you say 'Dude, your breath reeks, and you should try these uber-awesome mints I found, they really help,' that is called giving advice.

    Make sense?

    Makes total sense thats why im trying to help people unlike you trying to baby them

    Like grow up we arent kids this game is for 18 and up if you cant handle adults telling you what you are doing wrong or in your case if you just baby them all the time and say just play for fun you arent helping at all.

    Do you experience a lot of negativity in your day-to-day life?
  • max_only
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    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"


    Can you not read?

    I tell them their dps stinks. For the second time

    latest?cb=20141208195910

    Oh this is rich this is sooo decadent lol


    DO YOU TELL THEM WHY AND GIVE ADVICE? Or do you just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out.

    Let's see if you can parse the meaning the third time around.
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    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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  • TheStealthDude
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    If someone can do their job, you shouldn't care how they go about doing it. I've seen plenty of people DPS just fine with 2handers and bows in vet dungeons.

    If there is a problem with the group not doing their jobs, I leave (instead of kick). I explain politely that we likely cannot finish with the current group makeup and leave.

    If you fulfil your role and we can complete the content in a timely manner, then that's all anyone should care about.

    If you want specific group makeups, go make your own private group. I will always vote down any requests to arbitrarily kick someone.
  • ThePonzzz
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"


    Can you not read?

    I tell them their dps stinks. For the second time

    Ok ok...so...if you've got a friend that has really bad halitosis...

    If you say, 'Dude, your breath reeks!' ...that's something...BUT, if you say 'Dude, your breath reeks, and you should try these uber-awesome mints I found, they really help,' that is called giving advice.

    Make sense?

    Makes total sense thats why im trying to help people unlike you trying to baby them

    Like grow up we arent kids this game is for 18 and up if you cant handle adults telling you what you are doing wrong or in your case if you just baby them all the time and say just play for fun you arent helping at all.




    Now telling the internet to grow up. Doing really well in convincing everyone how to play the game. Am I allowed to talk to any NPCs when you're in my group or enjoy the story?
  • Ihatenightblades
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    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »

    And its always no hard feelings when we kick someone hopefully they learn a lesson on why they got kicked :)


    Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?


    Yes i always tell them the truth :)

    "You're Dps stinks bud gotta move on"

    Let me repeat myself: Do you tell them why and give advice or just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out?

    Your answer points to "No I don't tell them why, I just hope they figure it out"


    Can you not read?

    I tell them their dps stinks. For the second time

    latest?cb=20141208195910

    Oh this is rich this is sooo decadent lol


    DO YOU TELL THEM WHY AND GIVE ADVICE? Or do you just kick them without explanation and hope they figure it out.

    Let's see if you can parse the meaning the third time around.


    Wut
    Edited by Ihatenightblades on March 17, 2017 8:02PM
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