Does anyone actually think questing is fun?

Soella · March 2017

With non-balanced PvP, very inefficient trade system and pretty limited endgame PvE ESO keeps growing. IMHO, it is mainly because of best questing in all MMO.

DeadlyRecluse · March 2017

I love eso questing in small doses. Some of the stories are great, all the guild questlines (dlc and base game) are fun.

Zvorgin · March 2017

Soella wrote: »

With non-balanced PvP, very inefficient trade system and pretty limited endgame PvE ESO keeps growing. IMHO, it is mainly because of best questing in all MMO.

Trade system is a game in itself and I really enjoy it. I don't think it is an inefficient system, it just lacks in UI and being able to search a trader on console.

MLGProPlayer · March 2017

The problem is it's too easy. They need to drastically increase the difficulty of overworld trash mobs and bosses. I kill trash mobs in one hit. Delve, public dungeon, and quest bosses go down in 2-3 attacks.

Zvorgin · March 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

The problem is it's too easy. They need to drastically increase the difficulty of overworld trash mobs. I kill everything with a single spell. Bosses go down in 2-3 attacks.

Agree 100%, there isn't any challenge to the overland content since 1T so it gets repetitive.

Duragon_Darko · March 2017

I love questing and in the beginning was only reason played. All different story arcs how they come together is really awesome..

Abeille · March 2017

Tannus15 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Untidy1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

not that level however having an alt who will reach reaper march next week, Khajiit looking forward too it, will buy an good whiskey to enjoy with it.
One of the nice things with one tamriel is that you can mix thing a lot. One guildmate went back to do overleveled quests and he told about the famous gay bosmer one.

Out of curiosity, what is the "famous gay bosmer one"? I've done a quest with a gay breton couple where one was a werewolf, and another with a gay Khajiit couple, but don't remember a bosmer one.

It is a beautiful quest in Greenshade, not far from the Labyrinth. It is called "The Flower of Youth". Go check it out. Greenshade has its fair share of great quests, but this one takes the cake.

The feeeeeeeels!

I can't deal with them. Greenshade has quite a few quests that either gives me the feels or are just incredibly awesome, now that I think about it. One quest in the Gold Coast mentioned Aranyas, and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Greenshade is, in my opinion, one of the best maps in the vanilla game, perhaps only behind Rivenspire.

MLGProPlayer · March 2017

Abeille wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Untidy1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

not that level however having an alt who will reach reaper march next week, Khajiit looking forward too it, will buy an good whiskey to enjoy with it.
One of the nice things with one tamriel is that you can mix thing a lot. One guildmate went back to do overleveled quests and he told about the famous gay bosmer one.

Out of curiosity, what is the "famous gay bosmer one"? I've done a quest with a gay breton couple where one was a werewolf, and another with a gay Khajiit couple, but don't remember a bosmer one.

It is a beautiful quest in Greenshade, not far from the Labyrinth. It is called "The Flower of Youth". Go check it out. Greenshade has its fair share of great quests, but this one takes the cake.

The feeeeeeeels!

I can't deal with them. Greenshade has quite a few quests that either gives me the feels or are just incredibly awesome, now that I think about it. One quest in the Gold Coast mentioned Aranyas, and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Greenshade is, in my opinion, one of the best maps in the vanilla game, perhaps only behind Rivenspire.

The AD story made me want to kill every Bosmer NPC I saw. 3.5 straight zones of the exact same copy and pasted environments, helping the Bosmer solve the same problems over and over again made me want to abandon the main quest more than a few times.

WalkingLegacy · March 2017

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

menedhyn wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Personally, I preferred the first generation MMORPGs which didn't have quest markers. You spoke to every NPC you encountered and followed their responses when working out where to go. Even earlier, with RPGs before the internet came along you took notes, made maps, read manuals, and admired the box - ah, those were the days, kids have it so easy these days !

Absolutely agree. Questing used to take planning, thought and preparation. I'm still clinging to that way of playing even now... or as best as I can.

I agree with this. I would LOVE questing if they actually made you use your brain. Since they don't, I don't.

The main reason why I have such nostalgia for Morrowind was because of the questing.

Agreed. I liked that in vanilla WoW too. Actually having to read the quest log to figure out the area or proximity to go.

Now it's just go straight here and here it is, and over here, and grab that there. Space bar space bar space bar.

Khenarthi · March 2017

I love exploring and questing. That's why I play TES games.

Abeille · March 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Untidy1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

not that level however having an alt who will reach reaper march next week, Khajiit looking forward too it, will buy an good whiskey to enjoy with it.
One of the nice things with one tamriel is that you can mix thing a lot. One guildmate went back to do overleveled quests and he told about the famous gay bosmer one.

Out of curiosity, what is the "famous gay bosmer one"? I've done a quest with a gay breton couple where one was a werewolf, and another with a gay Khajiit couple, but don't remember a bosmer one.

It is a beautiful quest in Greenshade, not far from the Labyrinth. It is called "The Flower of Youth". Go check it out. Greenshade has its fair share of great quests, but this one takes the cake.

The feeeeeeeels!

I can't deal with them. Greenshade has quite a few quests that either gives me the feels or are just incredibly awesome, now that I think about it. One quest in the Gold Coast mentioned Aranyas, and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Greenshade is, in my opinion, one of the best maps in the vanilla game, perhaps only behind Rivenspire.

The AD story made me want to kill every Bosmer NPC I saw. 3.5 straight zones of the exact same copy and pasted environments, helping the Bosmer solve the same problems over and over again made me want to abandon the main quest more than a few times.

To each their own I guess. I love the Bosmer, I disagree that the problems are "the same", there is a good variety of themes involved in the quests and we were greatly exposed to their culture, which is in my opinion really interesting.

But I'm biased, I played Bosmer most of the time in the TES single players and they were my favourite race before I fell in love with the Altmer. The Bosmer are still right there tied at the top, though. I played through the AD story line 10 times and will do it again when I reroll my Nord as a Warden with the Morrowind release, that's how much I love it.

Kram8ion · March 2017

I like quests but as soon as npcs start talking to me or a wall of text comes up I turn off or skip thank god for quest markers or I'd be so lost

darklordvyperx_ESO · March 2017

I'm enjoying the questing. That's pretty much all I've done so far. I finished Daggerfall Covenant, and now I'm working on the Aldmeri Dominion content, and then onto the Ebonheart Pact content. Then all the DLC's. I'm more interested in the questing and the exploration than the dungeons and the pvp. I'm playing this game, basically, like I would any other Elder Scrolls game, just there are other people floating around. I don't skip the dialog either. I'm not in any hurry.

UrQuan · March 2017

Abeille wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Untidy1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

not that level however having an alt who will reach reaper march next week, Khajiit looking forward too it, will buy an good whiskey to enjoy with it.
One of the nice things with one tamriel is that you can mix thing a lot. One guildmate went back to do overleveled quests and he told about the famous gay bosmer one.

Out of curiosity, what is the "famous gay bosmer one"? I've done a quest with a gay breton couple where one was a werewolf, and another with a gay Khajiit couple, but don't remember a bosmer one.

It is a beautiful quest in Greenshade, not far from the Labyrinth. It is called "The Flower of Youth". Go check it out. Greenshade has its fair share of great quests, but this one takes the cake.

The feeeeeeeels!

I can't deal with them. Greenshade has quite a few quests that either gives me the feels or are just incredibly awesome, now that I think about it. One quest in the Gold Coast mentioned Aranyas, and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Greenshade is, in my opinion, one of the best maps in the vanilla game, perhaps only behind Rivenspire.

The first time I played through Greenshade I totally didn't clue in that Aranyas was a character who had been introduced (although who you hadn't actually met) back in Auridon. Later when I made the connection I went back and paid much closer attention during the entire Veiled Heritance storyline in Auridon, and especially the Final Blows quest. Somehow making that connection to the earlier stuff made the Greenshade storyline that much better.

MakoFore · March 2017

i think this game needed to learn from witcher in terms of questing. that game made me cry in parts, the thing it had is truly engaging, challenging content- with consequences and choices- something this game didn't get right. the banal nature of quests is something that is part and parcel with a game of this scale- but when they release future content- i hope they look at witcher 2. how can a single player game have more memorable social interactivity than an mmo?

i dont normally enjoy questing since i started- but as I'm going for caldwell silver/gold on a second account- the questing flaws are really apparent this time

TheShadowScout · March 2017

Hello, my name is ShadowScout, and I am a questaholic...

I listen to the quests, (okay, so maybe not for the tenth playthrough, but definitely for the first six...). And I really, really enjoy immersing myself in the story, following the plot and all that.

Yeah, there could be improvements made. Choices that matter more. Quests that react to your character, get different depending on race, gender, class...
But still, I have seen so much worse in way of quests as well...
So ESO is really neat, even for many, many playthroughs!

AtraisMachina · March 2017

I had someone in one of my posts claim that questing in eso is better than skyrim. And that Zos has better developers and writing than Bethesda.

Check my posts.

People are insane.

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

As the central feature of almost every single DLC and now the Morrowind xpac, does anyone actually enjoy questing? I would think that most people are like me and just skip the dialogue and move to the objective that the all knowing marker tells me to go to. There's no choice, consequence, or impact to any of my actions and listening to dialogue for 5 minutes at a time seems tedious and keeps me away from what I really want to be doing which is killing things.

PlaceboSoul · March 2017

While I would never on any given day, regardless of weather say questing is better in eso than in skyrim, I will say the quests in eso are pretty darn good. Mmo quests are harder to build into than single player, since there are a thousand other people around you doing that same epic quest, and all the enemies respawn. It's much harder to make that feel epic and immersive, but despite my outspoken dislike of much of what ZOS does, in this category I have to give ZOS their due credit. I think for a mmo, they did a very good job building the quests and making them enjoyable. Most are decently written and with a few exceptions, the voice acting is pretty good too.

AtraisMachina · March 2017

PlaceboSoul wrote: »

While I would never on any given day, regardless of weather say questing is better in eso than in skyrim, I will say the quests in eso are pretty darn good. Mmo quests are harder to build into than single player, since there are a thousand other people around you doing that same epic quest, and all the enemies respawn. It's much harder to make that feel epic and immersive, but despite my outspoken dislike of much of what ZOS does, in this category I have to give ZOS their due credit. I think for a mmo, they did a very good job building the quests and making them enjoyable. Most are decently written and with a few exceptions, the voice acting is pretty good too.

I agree but saying that an mmo quest is better than an rpg quest is just a bad idea.

Surgee · March 2017

I enjoy it, especially in DLC, as the quests there are done much better than in the base game. The only problem I have with questing is the rewards. Funny enough major quest lines take more time to complete than any other activity in the game and you can complete them only once. For that reason, rewards should be way better than they are now. Completing a super long quest line will most likely grant you only a crappy green item....what the hell ZOS?

Abeille · March 2017

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I had someone in one of my posts claim that questing in eso is better than skyrim. And that Zos has better developers and writing than Bethesda.

Check my posts.

People are insane.

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

As the central feature of almost every single DLC and now the Morrowind xpac, does anyone actually enjoy questing? I would think that most people are like me and just skip the dialogue and move to the objective that the all knowing marker tells me to go to. There's no choice, consequence, or impact to any of my actions and listening to dialogue for 5 minutes at a time seems tedious and keeps me away from what I really want to be doing which is killing things.

To be fair, the lore is more flashed-out by quests in ESO than on Skyrim. By far.

Really, Skyrim barely scratches the surface on that sense. I think it is because in ESO we get a wider variety of points of view due to the fact that we can travel to areas controlled by all of the playable races.

Surgee wrote: »

I enjoy it, especially in DLC, as the quests there are done much better than in the base game.

Quests, characters, models and overall design are all generally better in DLCs than in the base game. I believe ZOS is getting increasingly better at, well, everything.

MakoFore · March 2017

just out of curiosity- how long would it take to run thru each of the quest lines? for example aldmeri dominion- just the main branch. havent quested since....well ages- and really took my time- about a year to do it on another account/toon.
deciding whether to go thru it again.

Kamatsu · March 2017

AlMcFly wrote: »

What the hell do you play this game for if skipping the dialogue? You just want to reach the objective? To what end? Why play MMOs than? Why ESO?.

I haven't read all the thread & this has likely been answered. But if it hasn't - the OP is probably coming from a background of raiding MMO's where that is exactly what people did.

These people weren't playing the game for the story, setting, lore, etc... they wanted to get to max level and get into 'endgame' stuff such as Raiding, farming for gold/gear/etc, and such. People like this find stuff like story, reading text, listening to npc's talk, etc boring and a waste of time... when all they are interested in is raiding, killing mobs, farming for more gold or gear, etc. They find mechanical gameplay more interesting, seeing how far they can go, how much they can solo, how much loot they can get, taking down tricky/hard raid bosses, etc.

The OP thinking most people are like this isn't arrogance or such, it's the same issue everyone has - it's what I call associative bias. Basically because people with certain bias with generally hang around people with similar bias... that is all they see, and thus believe it's all that is and is surprised there could be anything different. It's why those who prefer hard content can't fathom ppl who prefer it easier, cuz they generally only play with/associate with others who strive for hard content. Same applies to any 'major' grouping.. such as easy-content lovers, RP'ers, raiders, gold/loot farmers, achievement hunters, etc.

As for me - I play the game for the story, questing & lore. I absolutely love listening to the quest's and talking to the NPC's. I go and make a point of talking to all/most npc's in a city before and after major quest event's to see what they have to say about the world, current events, etc. I've done the same in virtually all MMO's I've played (such as WoW, SWTOR, Wildstar, GW1 & 2, UO, etc).

PlaceboSoul · March 2017

Abeille wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I had someone in one of my posts claim that questing in eso is better than skyrim. And that Zos has better developers and writing than Bethesda.

Check my posts.

People are insane.

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

As the central feature of almost every single DLC and now the Morrowind xpac, does anyone actually enjoy questing? I would think that most people are like me and just skip the dialogue and move to the objective that the all knowing marker tells me to go to. There's no choice, consequence, or impact to any of my actions and listening to dialogue for 5 minutes at a time seems tedious and keeps me away from what I really want to be doing which is killing things.

To be fair, the lore is more flashed-out by quests in ESO than on Skyrim. By far.

Really, Skyrim barely scratches the surface on that sense. I think it is because in ESO we get a wider variety of points of view due to the fact that we can travel to areas controlled by all of the playable races.

Surgee wrote: »

I enjoy it, especially in DLC, as the quests there are done much better than in the base game.

Quests, characters, models and overall design are all generally better in DLCs than in the base game. I believe ZOS is getting increasingly better at, well, everything.

Definitely agree they are getting better. Each release seems a bit better than vanilla was, and I think most people liked what they saw in the morrowind trailers, not gameplay, but it looks like it will be an exciting quest line. I haven't quested for the morag tong since Daggerfall and Morrowind (obviously

).

Balamoor · March 2017

One thing I have learned, you never are going to get a Skyrim fan to admit anything is as good or better than Skyrim. Myself and many of my friends have been playing TES since Arena and we all agree that Skyrim fans are a different subset of TES fandom.....it's kind of like Justin Bieber fans and Twilight fans got together and had a baby, out of all the Elder Scrolls games Skyrim is my least favorite, not so much for the game, but the rabid cult that follows it.

hmsdragonfly · March 2017

Seraphayel wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

I love questing so much I don't even skip dialogue. Gotta hear all that voice acting.

Yeah that's especially great when you hear all the repeating voices again and again in each zone...

Andrewb967 wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

As the central feature of almost every single DLC and now the Morrowind xpac, does anyone actually enjoy questing? I would think that most people are like me and just skip the dialogue and move to the objective that the all knowing marker tells me to go to. There's no choice, consequence, or impact to any of my actions and listening to dialogue for 5 minutes at a time seems tedious and keeps me away from what I really want to be doing which is killing things.

Their quests are so much better than previous MMORPGs I have played.

To be honest I need to disagree. They're not. Most of ESOs quest are the usual quest stuff. I wish they would be better. Just voice over doesn't make a quest good / better (in my opinion).

I have to disagree

Quests aren't fetch quests like other MMOs (collect 10 rabbit's feet lol), they all have stories, yes, not all interesting but there are enough good quests for your entertainment. I can remember some outstanding quests, just like I remember those good ones in Skyrim and Oblivion. Dominion's final mission (amazing message: "United we stand, Divided we fall), Shad Atula (interesting companions), Wilderqueen's storyarc, basically everything with Razum-dar in it, Mages Guild, the skeleton quest in Grahtwood, assisting the 2 Khajiit champions, the whole arc of Bleakrock, Naryu, solving the conflict between Argonian and Dunmer in Stonefalls, Shadowfen's lore, Betnikh's last mission, and of course, the whole Cold Habour's questline (Mass Effect 2 vibes).

Also Orsinium. Nuff said :P One of the best questlines in TES series, right there with DB questline from Oblivion.

Loves_guars · March 2017

Yes. But it could be better if:

1) Less walls of text.
2) More options in your answers.
3) A more cinematic dialogue camera where you can also see your character.
4) Better rewards!

I recently did the Sweetroll Killer and loved it. Please do more like this where you have to explore and think a bit (like in TESIII!). Other quests are certainly boring (most of AD when Raz is not there imo) but many are very fun indeed.

hmsdragonfly · March 2017

Abeille wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Untidy1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

not that level however having an alt who will reach reaper march next week, Khajiit looking forward too it, will buy an good whiskey to enjoy with it.
One of the nice things with one tamriel is that you can mix thing a lot. One guildmate went back to do overleveled quests and he told about the famous gay bosmer one.

Out of curiosity, what is the "famous gay bosmer one"? I've done a quest with a gay breton couple where one was a werewolf, and another with a gay Khajiit couple, but don't remember a bosmer one.

It is a beautiful quest in Greenshade, not far from the Labyrinth. It is called "The Flower of Youth". Go check it out. Greenshade has its fair share of great quests, but this one takes the cake.

The feeeeeeeels!

I can't deal with them. Greenshade has quite a few quests that either gives me the feels or are just incredibly awesome, now that I think about it. One quest in the Gold Coast mentioned Aranyas, and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Greenshade is, in my opinion, one of the best maps in the vanilla game, perhaps only behind Rivenspire.

My man! Greenshade is my favorite zone!
Yup, we meet the Dunmer vampire hunter again in Gold Coast. The feel when he mentions Wilderqueen......

Also cannot forget Razum-the-queen xD

SydneyGrey · March 2017

I think questing is fun.

It only gets tiring if it's the same old "you have to destroy four focus stones to open a door ... and the four focus stones are all on opposite ends of the compound" ARGH!!! There are a zillion quests like this. It's nice when the quest is something original and unique.

ADarklore · March 2017

Yes! The overwhelming majority of players here are here for PvE questing, NOT 'end game' content or PvP... this is why ZOS is focused on bringing more solo quest content.