What will it take?
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Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
In any rpg, cosmetics are just as important to player immersion as stats, sometimes moreso even. Everyone likes to jump on the "it's only cosmetic so it doesn't matter" train as an excuse, but if that were true these cash shops wouldn't work, and systems like costumes or dyes or transmogrification would never have been created.
Appearance matters, whether you want to admit it or not.
In game you can create even better looking armor. Will they guy wearing cosmetic robe one hit whole zerg in cyro?
Better looking armor is cosmetic, no? Wether you have to grind endlessly for that look or buy it, that's not the POINT of this thread.0 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!0 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭And I didn't even write that ALL FORUM POSTERS are hating!Edited by Radinyn on February 26, 2017 8:45AM0
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Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.1 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.
See? Still attacking me.
Another tactic! "I don't take any side but your side is bad"1 -
Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.
See? Still attacking me.
Another tactic! "I don't take any side but your side is bad"
How am I attacking you? I asked simple questions, you fail to answer them. Thank you for purposefully trying to de rail my thread.1 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.
See? Still attacking me.
Another tactic! "I don't take any side but your side is bad"
How am I attacking you? I asked simple questions, you fail to answer them. Thank you for purposefully trying to de rail my thread.
Oh, you say that questions "Are you blind?" or "Can you not read?" aren't rhetorical?1 -
Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.
See? Still attacking me.
Another tactic! "I don't take any side but your side is bad"
How am I attacking you? I asked simple questions, you fail to answer them. Thank you for purposefully trying to de rail my thread.
Oh, you say that questions "Are you blind?" or "Can you not read?" aren't rhetorical?
What exactly are you attempting here? Should you not just move on?1 -
andreasv✭✭✭✭✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
Can you point out where pay to win was mentioned in the previous post? I'm not sure you actually know what it means and I can't remember that many posts complaining about it.2 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.
See? Still attacking me.
Another tactic! "I don't take any side but your side is bad"
How am I attacking you? I asked simple questions, you fail to answer them. Thank you for purposefully trying to de rail my thread.
Oh, you say that questions "Are you blind?" or "Can you not read?" aren't rhetorical?
What exactly are you attempting here? Should you not just move on?
I'm just attempting to show everyone that many people on this forum are trying to destroy good name of the game without even having arguments.1 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭i have no line in the sand at this time.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."4 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
Can you point out where pay to win was mentioned in the previous post? I'm not sure you actually know what it means and I can't remember that many posts complaining about it.
P2W means Pay 2 Win it wasn't mentioned in this thread but it many other treads on this forum. Read my previous post.0 -
Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.
See? Still attacking me.
Another tactic! "I don't take any side but your side is bad"
How am I attacking you? I asked simple questions, you fail to answer them. Thank you for purposefully trying to de rail my thread.
Oh, you say that questions "Are you blind?" or "Can you not read?" aren't rhetorical?
What exactly are you attempting here? Should you not just move on?
I'm just attempting to show everyone that many people on this forum are trying to destroy good name of the game without even having arguments.
Your attempting to make yourself look foolish. Good name? Because I spoke out about the Ill, money grabbing practices of zos? Must be nice to have a sheet pulled over your eyes. God forbid you see what this company is actually after. BUT!!! That's not the sole purpose of this thread. You are the one trying to get more out of it than what it is. There are countless shame threads on here, can you not employ them with your BS nonsense? Or are you going to continue to derail my thread with your fanboyism? Obv. That's not a real word lol.0 -
Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Pay to win isn't the problem. The problem is "pay for anything you want out of the game because we've either made it impossible or grindy as hell to get otherwise"
I just disagree with blatantly greedy marketing tactics.PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank3 -
Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
Can you point out where pay to win was mentioned in the previous post? I'm not sure you actually know what it means and I can't remember that many posts complaining about it.
P2W means Pay 2 Win it wasn't mentioned in this thread but it many other treads on this forum. Read my previous post.
Then move along champ, your tune has been off beat.2 -
andreasv✭✭✭✭✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
Can you point out where pay to win was mentioned in the previous post? I'm not sure you actually know what it means and I can't remember that many posts complaining about it.
P2W means Pay 2 Win it wasn't mentioned in this thread but it many other treads on this forum. Read my previous post.
I did read your post, that's why I'm asking where it was mentioned. Duh!
And to answer your "money grab" in cosmetics question. Are you happy paying some 10k crowns for assets that are in the game from launch? Housing is the biggest money grab so far, besides those p!$$ poor hero costumes. Nothing in the crown store is pay to win in any way shape or form. But it certainly is a means of getting easy money with putting in as little effort as possible.
Edited for swearing!Edited by andreasv on February 26, 2017 9:05AM2 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »And I don't think that Crown Crates is cash grab. You see ESO forum community is the only one that sees P2W in cosmetics.
Crown crates are exactly that, they proceed to put cosmetic items that COULD be sold per item into a gamble system, to entice the addiction held player base and others, there are few supplemental items as well.
That's not the discussion at hand though, I may have been misleading with the "cash grab" part. Morrowind is the cash grab. They've held content from plus members to bundle the dlcs into a "chapter" while all the content in morrowind has been developed for a few years.
My opinions aside though, don't let the opinion of a disgruntled fan blind side anyone. What's the tipping point for you people?
Look! Another typical thing for ESO FORUM community. If somone is not hating destroy him quickly! Maybe somone will buy the game after reading this!
All I did was state facts, you're the one painting the picture kiddo. Go ahead and assume all forum posters are hating. I simply opened a thread for discussion.
Oh! Look! Another part! When you are losing try to convice others against that person!
I'm not losing anything. There's nothing to win or lose in this thread. Are you that blind? Can you not read? It's rather simple, really. If you feel the need to imply stupid, childish input, then so be it.
See? Still attacking me.
Another tactic! "I don't take any side but your side is bad"
How am I attacking you? I asked simple questions, you fail to answer them. Thank you for purposefully trying to de rail my thread.
Oh, you say that questions "Are you blind?" or "Can you not read?" aren't rhetorical?
What exactly are you attempting here? Should you not just move on?
I'm just attempting to show everyone that many people on this forum are trying to destroy good name of the game without even having arguments.
Your attempting to make yourself look foolish. Good name? Because I spoke out about the Ill, money grabbing practices of zos? Must be nice to have a sheet pulled over your eyes. God forbid you see what this company is actually after. BUT!!! That's not the sole purpose of this thread. You are the one trying to get more out of it than what it is. There are countless shame threads on here, can you not employ them with your BS nonsense? Or are you going to continue to derail my thread with your fanboyism? Obv. That's not a real word lol.
Lol, can't you see that I wrote my opinion and then you instantly started your attack 'coz it wasn't against zos?Pay to win isn't the problem. The problem is "pay for anything you want out of the game because we've either made it impossible or grindy as hell to get otherwise"
I just disagree with blatantly greedy marketing tactics.
First one who actually wrote "I", thanks
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WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'll stick around as long as I can still get my kicks from the PvP experience ESO provides. I'll probably play it less when CU comes out but will still need the occasional action combat fix.
If they raise the gear cap though, I'm gone. I cannot be bothered to PvE for hours on end again just to regain the same efficiency I had in PvP before said hypothetical gear level cap increase. RNG is just that bad.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?1 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
Can you point out where pay to win was mentioned in the previous post? I'm not sure you actually know what it means and I can't remember that many posts complaining about it.
P2W means Pay 2 Win it wasn't mentioned in this thread but it many other treads on this forum. Read my previous post.
I did read your post, that's why I'm asking where it was mentioned. Duh!
And to answer your "money grab" in cosmetics question. Are you happy paying some 10k crowns for assets that are in the game from launch? Housing is the biggest money grab so far, besides those p!$$ poor hero costumes. Nothing in the crown store is pay to win in any way shape or form. But it certainly is a means of getting easy money with putting in as little effort as possible.
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I don't have to pay for that 'coz I can get this not so hard in game. Housing even has no storage so it's cosmetic too.0 -
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✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
Can you point out where pay to win was mentioned in the previous post? I'm not sure you actually know what it means and I can't remember that many posts complaining about it.
P2W means Pay 2 Win it wasn't mentioned in this thread but it many other treads on this forum. Read my previous post.
I did read your post, that's why I'm asking where it was mentioned. Duh!
And to answer your "money grab" in cosmetics question. Are you happy paying some 10k crowns for assets that are in the game from launch? Housing is the biggest money grab so far, besides those p!$$ poor hero costumes. Nothing in the crown store is pay to win in any way shape or form. But it certainly is a means of getting easy money with putting in as little effort as possible.
Edited for swearing!
I don't have to pay for that 'coz I can get this not so hard in game. Housing even has no storage so it's cosmetic too.
Simply put, you are the "target" audience ZoS attempts to pull forth, kudos to you!0 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭Nothing really. When the game slowly dies out or if another TES game come out. But when played that thin i surely come back to ESO again 0 -
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✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »If Morrowind drops the ball, I'll be gone. No looking back.
This. If it fails and ends up as buggy as this then I'm off.PC Master Race
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8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
Grand Overlord
Every Skyshard
Down With BOP!1 -
Skayaq✭✭✭✭✭The same as it would take for me to quit any other game; the game no longer being fun for me.Kazari-Dar, Khajiit Nightblade..........Jarkyr Storm-Blade, Nord Sorcerer .......... Dunric Amedain, Breton Templar
Araniwen, Altmer Sorcerer..................Llirasa Andralu, Dunmer Templar...................Marzug gro-Borgaz, Orc Warden
Calinchel, Bosmer Warden...................Jahrel-Xei, Argonian Nightblade....................Cienri Maraeud, Breton Sorcerer
Inara Savicci, Imperial Templar...................Garoric Attilus, Imperial Dragonknight............ Maevina Tallian, Imperial Nightblade
Ravanni-Ko, Khajiit Dragonknight..........Faevyn Ice-Heart, Nord Warden..........Nazran al-Taneth, Redguard Dragonknight2 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭I've left the game for extended periods more than once already. First time was when they went from a subscription to a f2p model on pc. I've played more than a few games that did the same and it always ends up being a disappointment - and always a cash grab via microtransaction too.
Notice how this far into the game we still only have 4 basic mounts available without dumping extra cash into it? Notice how we went from motif books, to motif pages, to page fragments in order to "persuade" people into buying the motifs from the cash shop instead? Notice how we went from items on the crown store being sold at face value to a gambling system with crates that only have a very small chance to give you what you're after? All of these things are the result of the f2p change and I promise you it will continue getting worse and worse in that regard.
I came back to the game when consoles released eso and I was able to transfer my account from pc to ps4. Console opened the game to more of my family and friends who didn't have pcs that could run it.
That lasted a while until zos pushed me away again with more of the crown store shenanigans (this time it was going from those motif pages to page fragments, absolutely ridiculous).
I hopped back in around thieves guild and realized nothing had really changed, so I was gone for another year or so.
Morrowind's announcement, along with the fact that they're finally adding the warden class that I've been asking for since before pc launch, brought me back again a few weeks ago. I've bitten the bullet and started grinding champion points, gold, and materials to prepare for the Warden which will be my new main.
We'll see how long I stick around this time.
Look, as I told before, why for you cosmetics is money grab or p2w? It only changes characters look!!!
Can you point out where pay to win was mentioned in the previous post? I'm not sure you actually know what it means and I can't remember that many posts complaining about it.
P2W means Pay 2 Win it wasn't mentioned in this thread but it many other treads on this forum. Read my previous post.
I did read your post, that's why I'm asking where it was mentioned. Duh!
And to answer your "money grab" in cosmetics question. Are you happy paying some 10k crowns for assets that are in the game from launch? Housing is the biggest money grab so far, besides those p!$$ poor hero costumes. Nothing in the crown store is pay to win in any way shape or form. But it certainly is a means of getting easy money with putting in as little effort as possible.
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Ehm the CS is there to make money.. its a business ofc. they grab your money. If you don't like it don't buy it. Some people might like what there is, and feel it worth it.
Don't really get way some people find the CS and prices so "Evil" There is a lot of stuff in the real world that is like that. And if there a no buyers it go aways again 0 -
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✭There are plenty of ethically questionable practices out that that are profitable; the "if I ignore it, it will go away" mindset can't solve all your problems. There have been many atrocities that turning a blind eye to did not stop.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭When I'm bored with it.
From past experience it's hard to say what would cause that and it's more likely to be a combination of things, including things which are nothing to do with ESO, rather than one specific thing.
I'm not your typical MMO player, I don't play just 1 game at a time, I go between lots of them and I don't really plan to 'leave' one, I just find I'm not choosing to play it as much, or at all. So if/when I do leave ESO it's going to be very hard to say if it's permanent and it's probably just because something else caught my interest.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"0 -
Unsent.Soul✭✭✭✭✭
✭There are plenty of ethically questionable practices out that that are profitable; the "if I ignore it, it will go away" mindset can't solve all your problems. There have been many atrocities that turning a blind eye to did not stop.
Simply put, I think I agree with this opinion the most. I understand where zos headed and I don't think I can continue to support this structure. I'm not saying that lil ole me is holding the fort, but the time is coming to abandon the "sinking ship" in my experience.
It's great to see others opinion on the matter. I'm not here to cast judgement on people's own experience, but it's good to know the communitie's opinion.0 -
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You will find that I will only truly have left this game when none here are loyal to me.
Beasts in amber! Wake and remember!2
