ViciousVamps1 wrote: »

Maybe like rapid maneuver with a vampire twist to it

Say, a mist form morph that grants major expedition?

Im a stam vampire because i like being a vampire even tho im at a disadvantage we need 2 more stam vamp skills

So, basically... you want stamina skills just so you can have an extra advantage?

Nope!

There really is no need for vampy stamina skills. I mean, why would there be? Vampires generally are powered by supernatural means (aka, magica), and not by physical means (aka, stamina).

Now, a few more magica skills, especially if they go for some classic vampire clichees (like, say, a dominate spell that will make all bloodfiends neutral towards a vampire, or allow you to "charm" townfolk NPCs to allow voluntary feedings; an "illusion disguise" that allows you to pass as mortal if fully fed, just like count ravenwatch; or a bat transformation as additional escape skill choice; or a "summon wolves" ability so you can listen to the "children of the night" and what music they make...) that could be considered.
Even a magica skill that stamina characters could benefit from (like, say, using your vampire powers to boost your physical abilities, maybe spending blood and magica to give yourself a weapon damage buff by "supercharging" your muscles or something like that) is worth considering...

Though of course, I for one also would want more of the clichee hindrances for vampires... like maybe a reduced swimming speed to make then shy away from "running water", or inability to use food buffs (especially those made with garlic) and more vampire-specific drink recipes instead...

And most of all, the city guard actually reacting to any vampire who lets the Masquerade slip and show the world what he or she is? With detection chances depending on your vampyness levels, say, 20% at stage 1, 40% at 2, 80% at 3 and 100% at stage four... and when discovered, the guard will kill you on sight, vendors will cry for the guard instead of dealing with you, even quest givers might deny you... make vampires feel like monsters that must keep up a disguise when dealing with mortals (I mean, just take the vampire questlines, and the general NPC reactions... rivenspire, eastmarch, grahtwood... most people will either be scared of vamps, or want to kill them on sight...)

TheShadowScout wrote: »

So, basically... you want stamina skills just so you can have an extra advantage?

Nope!

There really is no need for vampy stamina skills. I mean, why would there be? Vampires generally are powered by supernatural means (aka, magica), and not by physical means (aka, stamina).

Now, a few more magica skills, especially if they go for some classic vampire clichees (like, say, a dominate spell that will make all bloodfiends neutral towards a vampire, or allow you to "charm" townfolk NPCs to allow voluntary feedings; an "illusion disguise" that allows you to pass as mortal if fully fed, just like count ravenwatch; or a bat transformation as additional escape skill choice; or a "summon wolves" ability so you can listen to the "children of the night" and what music they make...) that could be considered.
Even a magica skill that stamina characters could benefit from (like, say, using your vampire powers to boost your physical abilities, maybe spending blood and magica to give yourself a weapon damage buff by "supercharging" your muscles or something like that) is worth considering...

Though of course, I for one also would want more of the clichee hindrances for vampires... like maybe a reduced swimming speed to make then shy away from "running water", or inability to use food buffs (especially those made with garlic) and more vampire-specific drink recipes instead...

And most of all, the city guard actually reacting to any vampire who lets the Masquerade slip and show the world what he or she is? With detection chances depending on your vampyness levels, say, 20% at stage 1, 40% at 2, 80% at 3 and 100% at stage four... and when discovered, the guard will kill you on sight, vendors will cry for the guard instead of dealing with you, even quest givers might deny you... make vampires feel like monsters that must keep up a disguise when dealing with mortals (I mean, just take the vampire questlines, and the general NPC reactions... rivenspire, eastmarch, grahtwood... most people will either be scared of vamps, or want to kill them on sight...)

Well if its magika based but gives me an advantage as a stam build like what you said with weapon damage buffs id take it as with all skill lines besides vampire thier is a skill that buffs something

Does not make sense. If you want stamina then be werewolf