ZOS does nothing to try and improve server performance, everyone hates them. ZOS plans out a temporary experiment to try improve performance, everyone hates them. If everyone were to give no CP PvP a shot they would realize how much more of a challenge/fun it actually is. I'm looking forward to this test, whether or not it does bring about an improvement in the future.

stealthyevil wrote: »

ZOS does nothing to try and improve server performance, everyone hates them. ZOS plans out a temporary experiment to try improve performance, everyone hates them. If everyone were to give no CP PvP a shot they would realize how much more of a challenge/fun it actually is. I'm looking forward to this test, whether or not it does bring about an improvement in the future.

If it's done right it could be really good. But imo zos are just going to remove CPs and say here you go blanket change no individual balancing and then everything will be broken for the next year just like when they changed the battlespirit and it was rip DKs for over a year.

asneakybanana wrote: »

stealthyevil wrote: »

ZOS does nothing to try and improve server performance, everyone hates them. ZOS plans out a temporary experiment to try improve performance, everyone hates them. If everyone were to give no CP PvP a shot they would realize how much more of a challenge/fun it actually is. I'm looking forward to this test, whether or not it does bring about an improvement in the future.

If it's done right it could be really good. But imo zos are just going to remove CPs and say here you go blanket change no individual balancing and then everything will be broken for the next year just like when they changed the battlespirit and it was rip DKs for over a year.

You are right that balance for no cp would need to be addressed before implementing any of this to be successful . I've played on no cp and you can really see the class issues there .

I don´t trust in zos to do that one right.

They would simply remove CP and be done with it. Azura is not any more or less balanced (or fun for me personally) than CP campaigns - it´s just different.

I don't play in Azuras at all so I can't speak to the effect that removing CP has on balance right now. Sounds like its probably not an ideal change to fix all balance issues, but if it is going to completely fix the lag in highly populated campaigns then I am more than happy to adjust my builds to make it work.

I hate the cp system, its the cause of so many imbalances and I've found the game with no/low cp (up to ~3 months after its introduction) far more enjoyable. But as of now its been out for 2 years and the PvP is entirely balanced around fights with 500+ cps. Heck, just look at current 50% dmg reduc battle spirit and remember that with 70cp and only 20% battle spirit it wasnt so fast to kill someone. I would like the cp system to go but it cant be without a major rebalancing like 1.6 patch was, and I doubt zos would do that. In the cureent game I would rather not pvp than be forced to solo on azura.

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Just a quick poll to measure the effects removing CP could have on PVP population . Feel free to vote or not vote and just give feedback on the issue .

Love PvP in ESO to much to quit and would love to see this game flourish more. If No CP is the route to go, then I'm all for it. We'll all adjust to it given time; already taking this week to plan out my build for next week.

Game is unbalanced because of CP. it allows infinite sustain, overturned damage, etc. Good riddance.

Pointless thread. ZOS is not removing CP permanently. They're isolating CP passives as sources of server strain and removing population density as a variable by performing a temporary test on the most populated server.

But if they were to hypothetically remove CP permanently, I'd adapt and continue playing just like every single other patch so far. No-CP PvP is actually pretty balanced and challenging. Damage and survivability feel fine there. They just aren't limitless like with CP due to sustain limitations. God forbid you have to actually build a little regen and manage resources...

Honestly, though, we should be supporting ZOS and contributing to their testing efforts, not discussing hypotheticals.

LeifErickson wrote: »

For those saying that you would quit because of all your time spent grinding going to waste, did you quit when they increased the level cap to v16?

And everyone's carebear arguments just came falling apart.

"But I grinded my CP to PvP on an equal playing field with other CP-capped players!"

Well, if PvP doesn't involve CP, is everyone not on an even playing field? They aren't changing the playing field with removing CP, like they did with vet rank changes. They're leveling it. Leif just /threaded this so hard.

Satiar wrote: »

Game is unbalanced because of CP. it allows infinite sustain, overturned damage, etc. Good riddance.

^ my thoughts exactly.

Koolio wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

For those saying that you would quit because of all your time spent grinding going to waste, did you quit when they increased the level cap to v16?

Not the same. What you're talking about them if they increasing the levels for more XP to be needed. I would quit if they removed the millions upon millions of experience I already gained. I worked really hard for my 900+ champion points. I was hoping they would open them up and let me use all of them not take them all away.

I was actually talking about the gear grind, which in my opinion is way worse since there is rng involved. Everyone had to upgrade their gear when v16 was implemented.

BUT I would be seriously pissed and that might have a negative effect on my motivation to play eso. I wouldn't quit out of protest though cos that would be cutting my nose off to spite my face.

souravami wrote: »

Don't really care about ESO PvP. Cyrodil is dead to me anyway.

Thanks for your input.

Why should i play a Game where only three sets are viable for my playstyle?