Why are children as rare as Dwemer in ESO?

Seraphayel · February 2017

... can somebody tell me?

I mean, at least there are dozens of Dwemer ruins throughout Tamriel and they are mentioned pretty often. Whereas children don't exist nor are there any indicators that they ever existed. Nobody is talking about them, there are no stories about children, no toys, no “kids stuff“, nothing.

We already discussed the Dwemer mysteries in another thread and if they were zero-summed (and they weren't because many Dwemer things still exist) but the better question is... were children zero-summed?

R1ckyDaMan · February 2017

Some say they were all led away by a man with a flute....

Cadbury · February 2017

They were all turned into daedric candies

zaria · February 2017

Dropped because too much other to add.
Possible issues with the justice system if planned back then.
Various toys in treasures you steal.
An Khajiit kitten with an chase tail idle had been something

runagate · February 2017

They were put on time out for repeatedly asking the same question over and over.

Browiseth · February 2017

because elder scrolls fans are weird and would complain that they can't murder them

t3hdubzy · February 2017

I hear children all the time in area chat usually making fun of me after I get ganked, but just prior to them also getting slaughtered.

If you list closely you can hear their parents in the background taking their playstation away for vulgar language.

srfrogg23 · February 2017

Because realistic things like a "biological life-cycle" is "immersion breaking".

Browiseth · February 2017

t3hdubzy wrote: »

I hear children all the time in area chat usually making fun of me after I get ganked, but just prior to them also getting slaughtered.

If you list closely you can hear their parents in the background taking their playstation away for vulgar language.

is that some pvp salt i hear

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kargen27 · February 2017

They are still playing Hide and Seek. You want to see the children you gotta get better at the game.

Maybe put some champion points into seeking?

Argruna · February 2017

Browiseth wrote: »

because elder scrolls fans are weird and would complain that they can't murder them

This is pretty much #1. When they made children unkillable in Skyrim, some people actively made mods to make them rekillable. No one likes a witness to a crime they can't silence before running away to the guards and you know they would make is that the moment a child sees you do anything like stealing and murdering, those evil things will either ask for bribe or beeline for the first guard they see.

Cronopoly · February 2017

ZOS employee "parents" are insecure about making invulnerable children for some reason... Says alot about those parents and how they honestly feel about the playerbase in a mythical world.

Abeille · February 2017

I would say they are rarer than Dwemer, but that's because I'm pretty sure the Harmonic Auditor in Rkindaleft is one and no one can convince me he isn't.

So that's one Dwemer in the game (two if Yagrum Bagarn is in Morrowind) and zero children.

LadyLavina · February 2017

They're mostly locked in a dungeon putting together crown crates.

Metafae · February 2017

Magicka Minorsteal

phairdon · February 2017

LadyLavina wrote: »

They're mostly locked in a dungeon putting together crown crates.

Boy..hahaha

Just what the game needs. Annoying & creepy children as seen in Skyrim.

Tornaad · February 2017

If they add them in and don't let them be killable (like Skyrim) then they break immersion. But if they do add them in as killable (whether players kill them or not) then suddenly that would put the game as either adult only content or just outright banned, and at a bare minimum it would have various different activist groups up in arms creating a lot of bad press.

So to just leave them out does not break immersion and does not cause marketing problems.

Additionally they add very little other than atmosphere so what's the point if you are going to possibly face all of those problems.

runagate · February 2017

phairdon wrote: »

LadyLavina wrote: »

They're mostly locked in a dungeon putting together crown crates.

Boy..hahaha

Just what the game needs. Annoying & creepy children as seen in Skyrim.

I don't care for that one bit.

Just fill the private houses of people always asking for children with 100 of those, all begging and following them around.

Woeler · February 2017

Children are annoying AF.

Dredlord · February 2017

Because the chicks dont put out bro, it's almost like they are all guys at heart and stuck in womans bodies...

[Edited a word to make the intent of the post more clear.]

Wing · February 2017

because they add nothing to the game and you often want to kill them in excessively violent ways because they know you cannot kill them and thus act and say snarky and sassy things to your face. compare the amount of kids you have wanted to kill in various fallout and TES games to the ones you felt actually added something and come to your own conclusion.

Gilvoth · February 2017

Seraphayel wrote: »

children don't exist nor are there any indicators that they ever existed. Nobody is talking about them, there are no stories about children, no toys, no “kids stuff“, nothing.

Good! and i hope we Never see them in eso!
i hated seeing them in skyrim.

Turelus · February 2017

There are children everywhere in ESO, do you not read zone chat?

JWKe · February 2017

Cuz we don't kill kids. It's messed up.

[Edited to remove profanity]

MrDenimChicken · February 2017

It's pretty obvious why

They were stretched thin and had to rush the game, and they felt Children NPC's were too much development time and not important enough to justify the time and money to create the character models and add voices.

A lot of elder scrolls online is modeled after Matt Firor's previous MMO hit, Dark Age of Camelot. In that game, there were no children NPC's, but there was an amazing 3 realm PVP system. This game does the same. So Firor probably made the executive decision to not include them due to time/money restraints, thinking that they weren't important enough.

Tabbycat · February 2017

Maybe all the children are in the zones we can't access yet.

Ep1kMalware · February 2017

Seraphayel wrote: »

... can somebody tell me?

I mean, at least there are dozens of Dwemer ruins throughout Tamriel and they are mentioned pretty often. Whereas children don't exist nor are there any indicators that they ever existed. Nobody is talking about them, there are no stories about children, no toys, no “kids stuff“, nothing.

We already discussed the Dwemer mysteries in another thread and if they were zero-summed (and they weren't because many Dwemer things still exist) but the better question is... were children zero-summed?

we gamers, we dont want to be bothered by little kids running around. Zos understands us.

ThisIsAKnife · February 2017

soulburst

Remag_Div · February 2017

Probably a multitude of reasons:

- Didn't have to model child NPC's
- Didn't have to get children to voice act for them
- People would complain they can't be murdered (yes, this was a complaint in other TES games)

I believe Hildegard in the DB is the only child NPC in the game. Even then, she's more a teenager then a child. I have noticed baby cribs around ESO so it's not like the citzens of Tamriel don't procreate, it's just a dev decision.

maxjapank · February 2017

Karellen?