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Which Faction for PvP on EU
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Hey Guys!
Which faction would you recommend on the EU Servers for a PvP oriented player?
i'm looking for an active faction with a good amount of guilds/teamplay.
Which faction would you recommend on the EU Servers for a PvP oriented player?
i'm looking for an active faction with a good amount of guilds/teamplay.
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KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭PC EU?
If so:
AD is probably the most pug friendly. AD wins most campaigns by sheer numbers + pug groups running throughout all hours of the day (literally). AD has a decent amount of guilds too, and knowing some of the people in the guilds they seem quite friendly.
DC has quite a few guilds from what I've seen. Obviously you'll have to contact the right people but whenever I see DC sieging it's usually guilds I see. How welcoming they are to new players I don't know cause they all hate me as I'm mainly an AD player.
EP is probably the worst faction in terms of campaign wins. One day they'll cap the entire map, the next 10 days they'll be pushed back to their gate. Their zone chat consists of Kris spreading propaganda about how DC/AD is full of cheaters when all 3 factions are the exact same in that regard. Their guilds from what I've seen are more for the "elite" players.
If you want the underdog factions, EP or DC are the way to go, EP more so. Want to win campaigns all the time? AD for sure. DC win the occasional campaign but not often. AD has a decent amount of guilds, but again, you'll have to get in contact with them, most are quite friendly though. DC has a decent amount of guilds too I believe, but I'm not sure how welcoming they are to newer players as I don't play DC religiously so can't comment on that.
e: Had to bold "from what I've seen" in case any EP/DC get triggered.Edited by KisoValley on February 14, 2017 2:23AM3 -
NightbladeMechanics✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I heard @KisoValley got 1vXed by Big Boss. Big Boss is AD, so that's clearly the superior faction.Kena
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KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I heard @KisoValley got 1vXed by Big Boss. Big Boss is AD, so that's clearly the superior faction.
Except I play AD
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✭✭KisoValley wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I heard @KisoValley got 1vXed by Big Boss. Big Boss is AD, so that's clearly the superior faction.
Except I play AD@NightbladeMechanics
Wow, BB is more op than I thought.Kena
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✭EP Azura is fun. Random Pact can't do sht tho, so I suggest joining one of the many pvp guilds around, or bringing friends.0 -
kkravaritieb17_ESO✭✭✭✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I heard @KisoValley got 1vXed by Big Boss. Big Boss is AD, so that's clearly the superior faction.
Except I play AD@NightbladeMechanics
Wow, BB is more op than I thought.
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Kas✭✭✭✭✭AD: way too many players on TF, very noob friendly because of Big Boss who invites everyone all day long. Far from great PvP but I can see a really new player learn a lot there. On other campaigns, numbers are much lower and usually AD loses. HUGE amount of roleplay cats and wannabe-legolases that sneak around with a bow and are incredibly useless w.r.t. taking objectives.
I don't play EP+DC but they also seem to have guilds / leaders similar to what AD does on TF. If they're on TF, they cannot compete with the sheer numbers and time invested by the king of pugs. If they pick another campaign, their large zergs often take the map (and make great exhibits in yt videos where they get 5v40'd occasionally, but they don't care, they win the map and with changed AP mechanics, also make decent AP). I've played ebony for a long time and Azura lately. There's no way 2-4 after-work guilds can hold the map if such a zerg shows up. Usually keeps get taken back around 7pm, leaving the map balanced round 9 and when groups disband because early birds have to go to bed, the map gets turned again around 11.30pm.
There are good guilds everywhere, some even cross-realm-. However, joining them doesn't usually work by just showing up and asking to.@bbu - AD/EU
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KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I heard @KisoValley got 1vXed by Big Boss. Big Boss is AD, so that's clearly the superior faction.
Except I play AD@NightbladeMechanics
Wow, BB is more op than I thought.
Yeah he is. He is the true king of the Dominion.0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭Take into account that my post is in relation to TF. Azuras is different I assume, there could be some nice guilds on DC/EP if you're interested in a non CP campaign, but I don't know as I don't play there. Haderus is just DC/EP flipping bleakers. Not sure what AD do on Haderus.0
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Nermy✭✭✭✭✭EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...@Nermy
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KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.0 -
Vurian97✭✭✭whereas the rest of us have jobs.
Are you implying that the AD players don't have jobs? What if ESO is their job? What if they just are really good at recruiting people for round-the-clock PvP? What if they beat you at the recruitment-side of PvP and that is why you're losing?
What if really... they have the job.. and you... don't? So many things...0 -
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✭✭Haha, so funny. Me, never playing on TF, and based on other campaign experience, switched from EP to AD because of the useless massive (in relation to other factions) EP zergs on those campaigns.
So my view: EP is cheese zergs, AD is cheese bombers and DC... well DC is rock bottom. Worst players, worst zergs, and worst cheezers. Don't play DC. You never get rid of the stink.Edited by Leandor on February 14, 2017 1:14PM0 -
Nermy✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.
Sorry, aren't those EP guilds you listed or am I missing something?
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Runschei✭✭✭✭✭
✭KisoValley wrote: »EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.
Decimation and Legion Elite, Redemption, Immortal, Drachen and Exterminatus are a few I can think of right now0 -
Ulfgarde✭✭✭✭✭Just look at people's sig's and see what level of bias you may garner from it.KisoValley wrote: »AD is probably the most pug friendly. AD wins most campaigns by sheer numbers + pug groups running throughout all hours of the day (literally). AD has a decent amount of guilds too, and knowing some of the people in the guilds they seem quite friendly.
DC has quite a few guilds from what I've seen. Obviously you'll have to contact the right people but whenever I see DC sieging it's usually guilds I see. How welcoming they are to new players I don't know cause they all hate me as I'm mainly an AD player.
EP is probably the worst faction in terms of campaign wins. One day they'll cap the entire map, the next 10 days they'll be pushed back to their gate. Their zone chat consists of Kris spreading propaganda about how DC/AD is full of cheaters when all 3 factions are the exact same in that regard. Their guilds from what I've seen are more for the "elite" players.
Kiso is awfully right, though. EP runs mostly unorganized zergs with some decent groups while DC plays more for 1vX and has AD-tier zergs every now and then.
AD, though, is clearly the campaign winner. The "higher-ups" usually run in bomb groups while there's a ton of night-capping. Zergs aren't very organized and can be easily ran over, but that's if you have some organization on your part, which can be seldom found when you're new to the game.
Overall, if you're up for campaign winning, go for AD. If you want to go underdog, go for DC or EP. That's pretty much how it stands right now.
Edited by Ulfgarde on February 14, 2017 2:35PMVery athletic eso player
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KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.
Decimation and Legion Elite, Redemption, Immortal, Drachen and Exterminatus are a few I can think of right now
Ah yes. Forgot about Decimation. If OP likes to roll 100 man deep then I think that's the guild for him xD.
Haven't heard of the others, good to see a decent amount of guilds.0 -
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✭KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.
Decimation and Legion Elite, Redemption, Immortal, Drachen and Exterminatus are a few I can think of right now
Ah yes. Forgot about Decimation. If OP likes to roll 100 man deep then I think that's the guild for him xD.
Haven't heard of the others, good to see a decent amount of guilds.
Elite doesn't run around with 100 players but well ok, you do you 0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.
Decimation and Legion Elite, Redemption, Immortal, Drachen and Exterminatus are a few I can think of right now
Ah yes. Forgot about Decimation. If OP likes to roll 100 man deep then I think that's the guild for him xD.
Haven't heard of the others, good to see a decent amount of guilds.
Elite doesn't run around with 100 players but well ok, you do you
Pugs count, no matter what people say.
Pretty sure there's a video of 100-150 EP (With Decimation in the middle of those pugs xD) vs a 12-16 man raid on youtube.
Needless to say, Decimation has a reputation, even among it's own faction for the numbers it rolls with.
It is what it is.0 -
iseko✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.
Decimation and Legion Elite, Redemption, Immortal, Drachen and Exterminatus are a few I can think of right now
Ah yes. Forgot about Decimation. If OP likes to roll 100 man deep then I think that's the guild for him xD.
Haven't heard of the others, good to see a decent amount of guilds.
Elite doesn't run around with 100 players but well ok, you do you
Pugs count, no matter what people say.
Pretty sure there's a video of 100-150 EP (With Decimation in the middle of those pugs xD) vs a 12-16 man raid on youtube.
Needless to say, Decimation has a reputation, even among it's own faction for the numbers it rolls with.
It is what it is.
Decimation started out as a pug friendly guild. We'd recruit everyone into our raids with 1 core ts group. We did not want randoms to feel left out. Unfortunately the idea became a bit... too big/popular with randoms. In the end we could get 4-5 raids. For various (obvious) reasons decimation stopped doing that.
Now: 1 group ts only. That is it. Second group is not allowed per rules. All players can still join the guild with only a few conditions:
A) dont be a ***
have ts (just listening is fine)
We offer help with builds but never force anyone to run any specific type of build. Play how you want is still core to the spirit of the guild. Which tends to make us bad versus choo choo trains...
We have fun though. Laughing when we kill and laughing when we get recked. All good fun.
We main azura as we always have. At specific points you will still see us surrounded by EP zergs because... Well what do you expect to happen when for example you're defending last emp keep xD.
Still want to reiterate: only one DE raid at a time. Period.1 -
Zorgon_The_Revenged✭✭✭✭✭Peak time Trueflame queue for AD is usually in the 60+, EP in the 30+ and I don't play DC (I'm happy with the smaller more open field zergs of the other two factions, nothing lags like 50+ DC taking an outpost).
Azura's Star (non CP) is quite popular and fun but I have no real knowledge of queue times.0 -
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✭✭As if there is another option, AD.
Big boss will embrace you with his shiny armor.
Edited by Master_Kas on February 14, 2017 6:08PMEU | PC0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »EP certainly has guilds that fight on TF. I wouldn't say we are 'Elite', we just want players who know what they are doing and can bring something to a raid. In my guild, we support players to become better and to grow into PvP. But most of all we want our members to have fun and a sense of community in a good guild.
EP wants to win campaigns but it's almost impossible, as has already been said, AD always win because they seem to have superior numbers 24/7, whereas the rest of us have jobs.
I love PvP in ESO but for a lot of us, especially in TF EU, it's becoming a bit boring because of the way the map is always yellow when we log-in and we have an AD Emp to dethrone.
Just a POV from an EP soldier...
What EP guilds are there? I know of NL/EF/Wabba/Gate to Hell or whatever they like to call themselves. Can't name any others off the top of my head. I'm just curious, because I only ever really see those 4 guilds when fighting on/against EP.
Decimation and Legion Elite, Redemption, Immortal, Drachen and Exterminatus are a few I can think of right now
Ah yes. Forgot about Decimation. If OP likes to roll 100 man deep then I think that's the guild for him xD.
Haven't heard of the others, good to see a decent amount of guilds.
Elite doesn't run around with 100 players but well ok, you do you
Pugs count, no matter what people say.
Pretty sure there's a video of 100-150 EP (With Decimation in the middle of those pugs xD) vs a 12-16 man raid on youtube.
Needless to say, Decimation has a reputation, even among it's own faction for the numbers it rolls with.
It is what it is.
Decimation started out as a pug friendly guild. We'd recruit everyone into our raids with 1 core ts group. We did not want randoms to feel left out. Unfortunately the idea became a bit... too big/popular with randoms. In the end we could get 4-5 raids. For various (obvious) reasons decimation stopped doing that.
Now: 1 group ts only. That is it. Second group is not allowed per rules. All players can still join the guild with only a few conditions:
A) dont be a *** have ts (just listening is fine)
We offer help with builds but never force anyone to run any specific type of build. Play how you want is still core to the spirit of the guild. Which tends to make us bad versus choo choo trains...
We have fun though. Laughing when we kill and laughing when we get recked. All good fun.
We main azura as we always have. At specific points you will still see us surrounded by EP zergs because... Well what do you expect to happen when for example you're defending last emp keep xD.
Still want to reiterate: only one DE raid at a time. Period.
North/North East of Bleakers isn't defending an emp keep xD
Fair enough you help pugs, but when there are literally 100+ EP already fighting us, and then Decimation joins in, well you know...
Either way, I think I described the factions perfectly for Trueflame. Azura is different, and there are more 'pug friendly' guilds for EP on Azura and probably for DC too. AD are usually awful anytime I go on Azura, so it all depends on what campaign people play on primarily.
Hope that helps OP.0