Anybody worried about their investment in ESO?

ChaosWotan · February 2017

How many have invested so much time and money on ESO that they start to feel just a tiny bit worried that the devs can no longer deliver what's expected from the best MMOs today?

Slurg · February 2017

What investment? I play for fun; anything I've spent is an entertainment expense. If it's no longer fun I'll stop playing.

Sigtric · February 2017

No

Slurg wrote: »

What investment? I play for fun; anything I've spent is an entertainment expense. If it's no longer fun I'll stop playing.

Pretty much this.

nvyr · February 2017

TBH I really haven't been playing much lately since the Morrowind announcement and all the high priced crown store items. Been passing time playing the Division while waiting for Ghost Recon Wild lands to hit shelves. I hate to say it by I think my ESO time is coming to an end due to the greed and lack of desperately required fixes. If GRW ends up being fun I think my time will be spent there instead.

JD2013 · February 2017

A game isn't an investment. I don't see any of the money I've put into the game as an investment. It's money for entertainment, and it's kept me entertained since the January 2014 beta so far.

It's also not an investment because one day the servers will close and everything will just go away.

salmoncat33 · February 2017

You can invest more than money.

Mic1007 · February 2017

I have never played and don't intend to play any other MMO than ESO, so what's expected of those games is not even remotely considered when I play ESO and spend money on it.

Beardimus · February 2017

I see the complete opposite. I have really worried I was investing hours into a game that might not live on as long as I would like.

All the DLC, Crown Crates, Crown store edditions, Homestead, Morrowind etc, I'm happy with as its making a revenue for them. If the game is profitable it will live on.

Sure I hope that profit gets put back into making the game stable etc, and not just new content, but id prefer it this way to a slick game with no revenue that shuts down too soon

People are not quitting the game. It's only growing, and more pills I know are taking ESO plus that before.

I'm more confident now that the game i love will live on that I was a year ago.

technohic · February 2017

If you put money into this thinking that it is an investment; you have poor judgement. The game you play is entertainment; not an asset. If you want to invest in the game; I haven't looked. Is ZOS publicly traded? That's where you would want to spend your money to invest.

Bigevilpeter · February 2017

With all its bugs and annoyances, ESO is still the most fun MMO out there and their player base numbers are growing with each patch, ESO is no where near dying.

Elsonso · February 2017

Live in the moment, dude.

Slurg wrote: »

I play for fun; anything I've spent is an entertainment expense. If it's no longer fun I'll stop playing.

JD2013 wrote: »

It's money for entertainment, and it's kept me entertained since the January 2014 beta so far.

technohic wrote: »

The game you play is entertainment; not an asset.

Tabbycat · February 2017

As much as I'd like to, I can't buy stock in Bethesda. They are a privately owned company.

BigBragg · February 2017

If you are an investor in the company, you should have access to quarterly and annual reports about the companies wellfare.... oh wait nope. My bad, I thought you meant you invested in the company, not just played the game a lot.

Slurg · February 2017

salmoncat33 wrote: »

You can invest more than money.

I don't see time spent playing a game or watching a movie or reading a book as an "investment" either.

OrphanHelgen · February 2017

Slurg wrote: »

What investment? I play for fun; anything I've spent is an entertainment expense. If it's no longer fun I'll stop playing.

That's you tho and from your side of view. Which is also the reason things are not in balanced, because the majority of the players just play for fun and stop playing time to time, and those are the one Zenimax looked at as well when they did this current balance patch, which is one of the worse imh.

AdamBourke · February 2017

No, but then, I haven't spent hours rerunning dungeons or anything like that.

I was a subscriber until the recent morrowind announcement, and the changes (percieved or actual) made ESO+ feel like a poor investment, but I think that they can continue to make a good game and i'm looking forwards to morrowind.

To those who are saying that the game is not an investment - that's not true, it's just not necessarily a monetary investment. You invest time and/or money into this game, and you expect short term and perhaps long term returns of entertainment. If people don't give ZOS their time or money, the game will cease. Therefore the game does depend on investment - just not with financial returns.

Slurg · February 2017

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

What investment? I play for fun; anything I've spent is an entertainment expense. If it's no longer fun I'll stop playing.

That's you tho and from your side of view. Which is also the reason things are not in balanced, because the majority of the players just play for fun and stop playing time to time, and those are the one Zenimax looked at as well when they did this current balance patch, which is one of the worse imh.

Hahaha, did you seriously just blame me personally for the current state of the game? Get some perspective, please.

No wait don't answer that. I don't care.

Waffennacht · February 2017

Every time, every where I log in, there are more players than I can shake a stick at.

I'm not worried about ESO.

Plus, what console MMOs are even out there that give ESO a run for their money? - Not many.

jedtb16_ESO · February 2017

Slurg wrote: »

What investment? I play for fun; anything I've spent is an entertainment expense. If it's no longer fun I'll stop playing.

exactly this.....

a house is an investment, a car is an investment.

this is just a game, entertainment. really good value too....

Jim_Pipp · February 2017

People are getting hung up on the word investment (even though I think it is the perfect word to describe how invested players get in games like ESO).

The debate could be rephrased as "do you worry about the long term future of the game? because a vocal part of the community has a range of complaints, including pricing, performance and unsatisfying dlc's".

I think we should be worried, because if (when) ESO closes it wont be because the players didn't want to support it, but because ZOS made it too difficult to keep supporting this game. (ZOS and ESO are two separate things, and players are as important as ZOS in keeping ESO running).

AnviOfVai · February 2017

all the time

KochDerDamonen · February 2017

Investment? I never expected to make money back off of this game, heh.

Guess I should get ready for the $$$ marketplace, remember a friend in high school making a cool couple hundred bucks off the one on diablo III

Purrmaid · February 2017

No, I'm not worried.

This is my first forum post, and whenever I look at forum posts, or search for information on ESO. All I get is an endless supply of people complaining about the dev's decision.
But reading the patchnotes myself, it got to me. But not in a way you'd think.

It was clear to me that these are devs that CARE about their game, and about the enjoyability of it. I've been an mmorpger for over a decage and I've probably been addicted to every game under the sun but it always comes down to the same issue of the devs not caring about their game.

The fact that they fixed clipping issues for fashion warms my heart, because other games don't care about this. I played GW2 on and off for three years from launch where they where so lazy that the "non-humanoid" female races didn't get their own armor skins. There where no feminine looks or cleavages for females, just the exact same armor males had. (while the human races had big differences between the genders). It was so bad, that if you were some of the "weird" races, your wardrobe was limited by half because the clipping was insane. Claws. tails. butts. It drove me insane, and after two years we finally started getting gender-specific armor for those races. But it was too little too late.
They never fixed the clipping.
ESO did, and I haven't seen many complaints about it.

I'll continue supporting ESO in any way I can, because I have a feeling it's only going to get better. Despite what some might think, they're listening. You guys complained endlessly about the last "dlc's" that they weren't big enough. And look at that. Morrowind. That outh to be big enough.

ChaosWotan · February 2017

If one has subscribed since 2014, and bought a lot of things in the crown store, and spent countless hours on getting the best gear, then this is an investment in a fun hobby, which one enjoys here and now, but many people in this forum have complained about IC, crown crates, Homestead, lack of new pvp content, and bad servers for instance, so if this trend continues, with people also getting disappointed by Morrowind, one might be justified feeling a very minor worry that in a not very distant future it's time to "cut your losses" and find a new MMO (and start the whole process all over again there...)

But happy to hear that people who have responded so far are not worried about this

Purrmaid · February 2017

There is never any guarantee in life that your hobby will continue.
Your house might burn down.
You might get a job that leaves no spare time for said hobby.
You might actually loose interest (how many different "hobbies" haven't you had in your life?)

There is never a guarantee that what you put your soul, time, and hardearned money on will be there for you for your entire life.
Which if you have such a mindset, you'll only get disappointed time and time again.

Which is why I'm completely onboard with the people that say "it isn't an investment, it's money spent on entertainment".

As much as I'd like to think this mmorpg will be alive and kicking in 10 years, there's a high chance it wont happen. With the market and the fleeing customer no game is actually safe these days.

Every single mmorpg out there is having the same issue with the masses: You cannot please everyone, and there is always someone mad, disappointed, and ranting about the missteps a company has taken with their game.

Wildstar fired their pvp team. They fired half their people when they decided to not launch the game in Asia.
GW2 fired their dungeon team and never got it back. (thus never fixing past mistakes and only focusing on throwing out new content and hoping people will be happy enough). They decided not to have a holy trinity (dps, tank, healer) and then added raids that needed a healer.
Funcom's CEO got caught doing illegal shizzle.
Almost every single P2P play has gone F2P with subscription bonuses. (wow being one of the few stubborn ones left, but with them losing numbers every single year people are worried there too).
The only mmorpg I'd consider "safe" is final fantasy, because the core final fantasy fans will always stick to it. No matter how horrid it might become. They're fiercely loyal.

In my opinion, out of all of those ESO seems on safer ground. Even if it isn't the biggest one atm.

Turelus · February 2017

Not worried at all.

This game is doing everything I desire, there is room for improvement and I have my issues but not enough to feel worried.
After taking a break and playing other games I ended up back here because I realised I enjoyed this game more than others.

strikeback1247 · February 2017

Does worrying about your "investment" even matter? It doesn't matter whether the game improves massively or just goes fully down under, you won't get your time and money back.

SolarCat02 · February 2017

I invest my time into running a guild in this game. I do it for the people in the guild, because they are why I play this game anymore.

We have lost people to real life concerns, and also to in-game frustrations, mostly the grinding or disagreements about the direction things are going in game. But we are still growing faster than we are shrinking, and people are being active and participating, so I don't see any reason to believe that the game is in trouble.

I personally disagree with some of the choices this game is making. There are plenty of things that feel like a money grab, including housing. I have felt this way since I started playing, I just see more cases of it now than I did then. I still enjoy playing, I like my characters, I love my guild, and so I am still here, and still investing my time, and I will continue to do so until it is no longer worth it to me, or I feel my time will yield more fun if spent elsewhere.

FortheloveofKrist · February 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Every time, every where I log in, there are more players than I can shake a stick at.

I'm not worried about ESO.

Plus, what console MMOs are even out there that give ESO a run for their money? - Not many.

New emote request. /Shakestickat

Please!

jcaceresw · February 2017

At the moment I am only playing on weekends to burn my enlightenment experience doing Cyrodiil PVE quests and exploration. On week days I go play another game. I may stop sub on April because I am thinking on enroll on some studies and may have much less time to play.

linoge63 · February 2017

Its a great game that's just become greater.

Simple as that