Haven't seen so many DKs since 1.5

Delimber · February 2017

I might look at moving my stam DK back to magic, but IDK.

But now I have to look at reworking my stamblade to counter the CC's and DOT's and so on....Cold fire ballista maybe lol

PainfulFAFA · February 2017

Loving the new chains, heals, and ult.

LeifErickson · February 2017

zyk wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Perhaps to you. NB as I enjoy it has been nerfed since 2.3. Much like many players have been seeking a specific DK playstyle to be effective, many players feel the same of the cloaked melee magicka NB style.

Regardless, I see far less forum advocacy for NB than any other class.

Can you be more specific? When I look at the patch notes for mageblades I see the changes buffing that playstyle in particular.

Cinbri · February 2017

LeifErickson wrote: »

Every time I press dragon blood I feel like I'm pressing honor the dead. It's honestly insane.

Not actually true. It like Honor the Dead... healing from which noone will steal.

Mojomonkeyman · February 2017

This game needs root immunity timers so badly. It`s hilarious at the moment, being perma rooted every freaking fight... very fun and balanced!

Joy_Division · February 2017

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

This game needs root immunity timers so badly. It`s hilarious at the moment, being perma rooted every freaking fight... very fun and balanced!

I will say that it did feel like I spent half the night taloned.

I'm glad some folks are enjoying their DKs again. I hope the feedback we give, whether we play DKs or not, is not hysterical and misleading so we don't have to go through two years of frustration again.

Having fought against them, I have noticed their self-healing is very good and that Leap is dangerous. They seem to be in a good spot atm, but I guess time will tell.

Armitas · February 2017

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

This game needs root immunity timers so badly. It`s hilarious at the moment, being perma rooted every freaking fight... very fun and balanced!

I think we need a universal mist form in the alliance tree. Not identical but basically giving you mobility if not attacking or healing. Basically a magicka version of dodge roll.

Derra · February 2017

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

This game needs root immunity timers so badly. It`s hilarious at the moment, being perma rooted every freaking fight... very fun and balanced!

Especially great on sorc - if you streak through an object atm you simply get stuck for 3 to 4s with your char doing nothing. Which ofc happens a lot when rooted.
YAY.

Sugaroverdose · February 2017

Minno wrote: »

I'm just excited to finally do consistent dmg against DK's with destro staff .

I'm already thinking about force pulse high critrate+critdamage magblade build, it's gonna be interesting

Armitas wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

This game needs root immunity timers so badly. It`s hilarious at the moment, being perma rooted every freaking fight... very fun and balanced!

I think we need a universal mist form in the alliance tree. Not identical but basically giving you mobility if not attacking or healing. Basically a magicka version of dodge roll.

Stamina people will love such while for magicka it will be just better to roll vamp

RinaldoGandolphi · February 2017

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

This game needs root immunity timers so badly. It`s hilarious at the moment, being perma rooted every freaking fight... very fun and balanced!

Yup, this should have been in the game at launch. Its ridiculous folks can simply root spam you perpetually. They decreased the cost of Encase again so that must be what they want.

NightbladeMechanics · February 2017

Magus wrote: »

Waylander wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

It's like watching turtles mating.

Whatever you do in your own time is fine by me mate.

The noise will haunt you with laughter. Youtube is an interesting place.

@Aerem does conza have a forum account?

zyk wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Perhaps to you. NB as I enjoy it has been nerfed since 2.3. Much like many players have been seeking a specific DK playstyle to be effective, many players feel the same of the cloaked melee magicka NB style.

Regardless, I see far less forum advocacy for NB than any other class.

Yea, only destro got buffs. Melee was never my favorite, but omg I have been missing it lately...

Plus it's stronger against this mdk reflect meta.

Just looking for one piece of gear...

Subversus · February 2017

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Name one thing that's a buff relative to other magicka classes.

LeifErickson · February 2017

Subversus wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Name one thing that's a buff relative to other magicka classes.

Twisting path

Subversus · February 2017

LeifErickson wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Name one thing that's a buff relative to other magicka classes.

Twisting path

How is that a pvp buff?

Ghostbane · February 2017

Subversus wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Name one thing that's a buff relative to other magicka classes.

The Restoring Aura line.

LeifErickson · February 2017

Subversus wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Name one thing that's a buff relative to other magicka classes.

Twisting path

LeifErickson wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Name one thing that's a buff relative to other magicka classes.

Twisting path

How is that a pvp buff?

It's a buff to a commonly used mageblade skill. The other morph got buffed too.

Subversus · February 2017

Ghostbane wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

What, DKs need more buffs? Seriously? Riiiight.

WTB: more NB forum advocacy. Paying Forumplars and Hashtag Knights to switch sides.

Except mageblades got huge buffs this patch.

Name one thing that's a buff relative to other magicka classes.

The Restoring Aura line.

Good one.

NightbladeMechanics · February 2017

I never thought I'd see the day when Path is called "commonly used."

:')

My heal tooltip rose by about 300, and I'm running no cp into bonus healing at the moment. That's big. Also cloak got bug fixes and seems to be working better, but the jury's still out on that one.

Mageblade damage, healing, and sustain have been fine for a long time. Our primary issues in PvP are/were snares, big stam burst, and cloak not working properly. Hopefully two of these three have been sufficiently addressed with this patch.

LeifErickson · February 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

I never thought I'd see the day when Path is called "commonly used."

:')

My heal tooltip rose by about 300, and I'm running no cp into bonus healing at the moment. That's big. Also cloak got bug fixes and seems to be working better, but the jury's still out on that one.

Mageblade damage, healing, and sustain have been fine for a long time. Our primary issues in PvP are/were snares, big stam burst, and cloak not working properly. Hopefully two of these three have been sufficiently addressed with this patch.

Impale buff too.

Orchish · February 2017

Magus wrote: »

I can't wait to get hit by engulfing flames and flame lash while they hold block and talons spam me. Yay! Ever seen two magicka DKs 1v1? It's like watching turtles mating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMkCPCWbmZk

Subversus · February 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

I never thought I'd see the day when Path is called "commonly used."

:')

My heal tooltip rose by about 300, and I'm running no cp into bonus healing at the moment. That's big. Also cloak got bug fixes and seems to be working better, but the jury's still out on that one.

Mageblade damage, healing, and sustain have been fine for a long time. Our primary issues in PvP are/were snares, big stam burst, and cloak not working properly. Hopefully two of these three have been sufficiently addressed with this patch.

I never called it 'commonly used'

:')

Patch changes shouldn't change the tooltip of your healing path, so the increase must've came from your cp, most likely from the max magicka increase since I can't figure out anything else

:')

Cloak affects both stamblade and magblade, it's not a magblade buff and absolutely not a 'serious buff'

:')

Magblade is in the same place as it was last patch, except for the destro buffs which won't even matter if you go against a sorc since they got the same buff. Not to mention that this patch basically makes it a must to run destro/resto on a magblade.

:')

When I talk about balance I see it through a 1v1 perspective. Next time you try to argument with me try to remember that I don't give two flying *** about zerg v zerg (smallscale v zerg, my bad! totally different!)

:')

Ghostbane · February 2017

Orchish wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

I can't wait to get hit by engulfing flames and flame lash while they hold block and talons spam me. Yay! Ever seen two magicka DKs 1v1? It's like watching turtles mating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMkCPCWbmZk

The stamina on that one.

Subversus · February 2017

LeifErickson wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

I never thought I'd see the day when Path is called "commonly used."

:')

My heal tooltip rose by about 300, and I'm running no cp into bonus healing at the moment. That's big. Also cloak got bug fixes and seems to be working better, but the jury's still out on that one.

Mageblade damage, healing, and sustain have been fine for a long time. Our primary issues in PvP are/were snares, big stam burst, and cloak not working properly. Hopefully two of these three have been sufficiently addressed with this patch.

Impale buff too.

Pretty serious buff, I agree. Game changing!

LeifErickson · February 2017

Subversus wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

I never thought I'd see the day when Path is called "commonly used."

:')

My heal tooltip rose by about 300, and I'm running no cp into bonus healing at the moment. That's big. Also cloak got bug fixes and seems to be working better, but the jury's still out on that one.

Mageblade damage, healing, and sustain have been fine for a long time. Our primary issues in PvP are/were snares, big stam burst, and cloak not working properly. Hopefully two of these three have been sufficiently addressed with this patch.

I never called it 'commonly used'

:')

Patch changes shouldn't change the tooltip of your healing path, so the increase must've came from your cp, most likely from the max magicka increase since I can't figure out anything else

:')

Cloak affects both stamblade and magblade, it's not a magblade buff and absolutely not a 'serious buff'

:')

Magblade is in the same place as it was last patch, except for the destro buffs which won't even matter if you go against a sorc since they got the same buff. Not to mention that this patch basically makes it a must to run destro/resto on a magblade.

:')

When I talk about balance I see it through a 1v1 perspective. Next time you try to argument with me try to remember that I don't give two flying *** about zerg v zerg (smallscale v zerg, my bad! totally different!)

:')

You do realize that mageblade last patch was arguably the best dueling class in the game right? And if that mageblade used path or cloak or impale or destro staff, that mageblade has only gotten stronger? Does getting stronger not equal a buff to you?

Kilandros · February 2017

mDK definitely feels soooooo much better. Our heals are legit. Full stop. Empowering Chains, while still buggy, is actually kind of amazing when it works.

The biggest issue mDKs have right now is sustain - they burn through magicka. That being said, I think some of the other classes have too much sustain. It isn't a bad thing for players to have to balance sustain sets with DPS sets (unlike the current meta which is to stack dps sets and still have infinite sustain on certain builds).

Sigtric · February 2017

It's very noticeable, as @Joy_Division mentioned above I also felt like I was talons'd most of the time.

However I was on my mDK too, and was tossing around a bunch of my own talons.

I had a lot of fun with it, but then I've been having a lot of fun with my mDK for months leading up to this point. I'm glad CDB is viable, and I spent some time in the big fights seeing just how effective/bad wings is, will probably just swap that out for another shield

Using ults for burst/execute and sustain all at the same time is still an issue but with pots and careful management resources can be dealt with - but getting a few KBs by jumping onto someones head was great fun

Etaniel · February 2017

DK has been really fun for me since One tamriel actually, dk has been back for a while.

Asgari · February 2017

Its not so much roots need a cooldown, its more so the amount of snaring that happens is atrocious. DK and Templar are the two classes on magicka that NEED roots. Otherwise they cant keep up with the other two magicka variants or any stamina players.

Instead of seeing root immunity id much rather see snares not stacking over 50% and when the 50% is reached you are immune to snares for 2.5 seconds. Also the gap closer snare needs to be removed if you have this immunity up as well which can be applied to mist form users.

NightbladeMechanics · February 2017

@LeifErickson I forgot that one! I've been enjoying my long ranged Impale snipes lately too. XD

@Subversus Do you find the game fun to play inside your bubble? I can't fathom how you don't consider these things buffs to mageblade, in duels or otherwise.

Armitas · February 2017

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

I'm just excited to finally do consistent dmg against DK's with destro staff .

I'm already thinking about force pulse high critrate+critdamage magblade build, it's gonna be interesting

Armitas wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

This game needs root immunity timers so badly. It`s hilarious at the moment, being perma rooted every freaking fight... very fun and balanced!

I think we need a universal mist form in the alliance tree. Not identical but basically giving you mobility if not attacking or healing. Basically a magicka version of dodge roll.

Stamina people will love such while for magicka it will be just better to roll vamp

Stamina already has it twice over right now, they have rapids and forward momentum so I was just thinking of a magicka ability.. The only reason I am a vamp is for mist. The fire damage hasn't been bad because there are so few DKs, and even less that do any damage. But that might have changed after this update. If I had another option to get through the encase spam I would take it eagerly because I hate being a vamp.

It's kind of a preemptive suggestion because I fear they are going to globally nerf roots due to encase spam which is far different than DK roots. They never take the time to do things right, they just do it the easiest way they can.