If you sub and feel burnt, what could ESO give to compensate your loss?

Concenaros · February 2017

Sweet rolls, so I could soak up all my Milk-drinking tears.

silvereyes · February 2017

sumisu1 wrote: »

I'm not mad at all, but if it isn't too much to ask… could we have prosperous, training and reinforced traits removed from the game please?

Nooooo... Not training! At least not from crafted and overworld gear. 78% XP boost is too good to give up.

I would be happy to see it removed from the dungeon, trials, and PvP gear loot tables, though.

And prosperous. Ugh. Yes, it needs to go. I've wanted to make an addon to rename it "f'ing preposterous" for some time now, but I think the esoui.com quality guidelines might take issue with it.

trbrelinskib14_ESO · February 2017

JD2013 wrote: »

I sub.

I've preordered Morrowind.

Why would anyone need compensating? Seriously?

Absolutely agree. It's pretty stupid...

silky_soft · February 2017

I want wrobel to quit

silvereyes · February 2017

Aquanova wrote: »

Turn all my CP 160 gear to CP 180 or 200 when the expansion goes live.

I DO NOT WANT TO GRIND ALL THIS $%!& AGAIN DAMN IT!

Check the dev tracker. There will be no gear cap increase in either Homestead or Morrowind.

Sinthrax · February 2017

Jemcrystal wrote: »

It is in stone. They are not going to change it. The Expansion/DLC/Update Morrowind will be at least $40 to everyone. Even the subscribers who thought all content was free because they subbed. I do not disagree or agree because I do not sub. It does not apply to me. But I am curious if anything would ever make up for this slight in your eyes? What could they offer (instead) only to subscribers to take away the burn? Ideas?

When people raised all cane for them to take away the sub this is what you get. I wish they would take away all the free accounts, go to a sub with expansion model and do away with the crown store completely. You sub and buy expansions...get what you pay for.

This expansion is cheaper than the darn motifs in crown store. What are you whining about.

trbrelinskib14_ESO · February 2017

esotoon wrote: »

Whilst disappointed, I have no issue with them changing the business model now it has been announced and people know exactly what they are paying for.

For me my main issue still is the fact that they continued to allow subscriptions for the last 6 months without providing the promised DLC, or letting players know that the business model had changed so that they could make an informed decision about the value of their subscription payments.

So ideally I would like ZOS to offer a refund to anyone subscribed for the previous 6 months and feels cheated as they failed to deliver what they had promised in return for that subscription.

However that's never going to happen, so perhaps 1 month free sub would be a good compromise?

If people feel cheated by this, that's their personal issue. There is literally no reason to feel cheated on this. ZOS has done nothing to cause that. It really isn't even an issue. I'm actually almost speechless by how many people are freaking out about this. Talk about feeling a bit too entitled and overly critical.

This doesn't go against what they said... DLC and Expansion are different. A lot of games have DLC and Expansions and they are different. Get over it. It isn't a money grabbing semantics game.

Acrolas · February 2017

Since the digital Morrowind plus collectibles upgrade is $60, and the digital full game plus collectibles is $80, it would be stupid not to get the $100 box set that includes more than $20 extra of physical stuff plus a pressed retail disc. That's how they pinch the most money out of everybody. Few ESO+ members are buying just the $40 or $60 set.

They could have at least had one edition that was a physical copy that you could pick up on the morning of the 6th that was just a Morrowind upgrade plus all digital collectibles. I don't know why 60% of the options had to include a redundant copy of the base game.

And you know they'll be like, 'Well we listened to the complaints but most people bought the $100 set so we're not going to change the sales model for the next Chapter release.' I mean, maybe a good compensation would be if you mailed the base game disc back to ZOS they'll send you code for 60 days of ESO+ which would be both a discount and more than you'd probably get selling the extra copy on eBay.

Iselin · February 2017

I don't want any compensation lol. I just want them to be up front with their messaging instead of playing silly games with labels.

"We're changing the model from 4 DLC per year to 3 minor DLCs and one major one. The major one will be at least the size of Orsinium and may include new classes and other content. That DLC will not be available in the Crown Store or accessible with just ESO+. It will cost $40"

See? Not so hard to be honest is it?

magnusthorek · February 2017

Aaaaaarghhhhh another whining thread about subscribers sadness and compensation request.

Minalan · February 2017

silvereyes wrote: »

sumisu1 wrote: »

I'm not mad at all, but if it isn't too much to ask… could we have prosperous, training and reinforced traits removed from the game please?

Nooooo... Not training! At least not from crafted and overworld gear. 78% XP boost is too good to give up.

I would be happy to see it removed from the dungeon, trials, and PvP gear loot tables, though.

And prosperous. Ugh. Yes, it needs to go. I've wanted to make an addon to rename it "f'ing preposterous" for some time now, but I think the esoui.com quality guidelines might take issue with it.

Training should be removed from anything that drops at CP 160.

End game gear sets shouldn't have it.

Qyrk · February 2017

Aquanova wrote: »

Turn all my CP 160 gear to CP 180 or 200 when the expansion goes live.

I DO NOT WANT TO GRIND ALL THIS $%!& AGAIN DAMN IT!

Hey bro, be informed using the dev tracker. You're up for a surprise.....and not what you think....

kevlarto_ESO · February 2017

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Nothing . If I did feel burnt I would leave . The B2P access saves ZoS again with me . I can play for free without subscription . We're good . The day ever comes that B2P changes to F2P and I have to start buying access to inventory or ability bars , I'm out .

It's their game . There are several new titles released this year to choose from if we are tired .

This ^^^

I currently sub, I will buy the expansion, nothing to be burnt about, that's how things go.. /shrug

silvereyes · February 2017

SolarCat02 wrote: »

Training should be removed from anything that drops at CP 160.

End game gear sets shouldn't have it.

CP 160 is hardly equivalent to end-game. I'm not at CP cap, and I like to grind CP with some combo of Prisoners Rags, Fiords legacy and Darkstride for the decreased sprint cost and/or increased speed. I'm not going to grind CP with anything other than a full set of training, since that's just wasting time.

Now, if they introduced some similar speed sets as crafted sets and made Training crafted-and-non-set-gear-only, I could get behind that.

Castagere · February 2017

Wollust wrote: »

Nothing, get over it. It's not the end of the world ffs.

This 100%

Loralai_907 · February 2017

Ummmmmmm, well I didn't think I needed anything.......buuuuuuut, I'm not really a bear person, so maybe instead of a bear ULT I could have a big old Senche like the one you save in that one AD quest as my ULT instead? Maybe someday lol

rotaugen454 · February 2017

A fighting monkey pet...

IrishGirlGamer · February 2017

Nothing. I'm happy.

Although, I wouldn't say no to some cookies.

LrdRahvin · February 2017

Hookers and blow.

Brasseurfb16_ESO · February 2017

I've been supporting this game for 3 years now, I will buy their "Chapter" because I love the game.

But considering ZOS :
- didn't respected the terms of my contract with them by providing at least 4 DLCs a year and granting me acces to all downloadable content for my subscription with them.
- decided to change the terms of my contract without any form of private notifications while still cashing my money in.
- and because they are disrespecting me and clearly trying to milk even more money out of me with their shady practices.

I decided to cancel my subscribtion until I get my money worth of it to buy that so called "Chapter", which by the way is just another "DLC"...

So, i'm very sorry to disappoint you ZOS, but we both loose...

Solariken · February 2017

As long as I can use my crowns to buy the digital-only version, I don't really care. However, I think they should add 100 personal bank slots for subscribers regardless. I feel smothered by all the crap I have to hoard.

smacx250 · February 2017

LrdRahvin wrote: »

Hookers and blow.

Just to be clear - are you asking for two things, or is that one sequence?

esotoon · February 2017

Solariken wrote: »

As long as I can use my crowns to buy the digital-only version, I don't really care.

You can't purchase it with Crowns.

Raeph · February 2017

Good question. If the expansion could be purchased with crowns I would be satisfied. But alas, that's not the case.

So I will buy Morrowind, but I'm also cancelling my sub. They are free to change their business model, and I'm free to decide if I'm still getting my money's worth. Is what it is.

Pangnirtung · February 2017

I question all of this if only because things like PVP have been broken since beta and yet they are introducing more PVP in Morrowind. So to pay for something that is incomplete or broken?

BlueViolet · February 2017

I don't want anything from Zeni except more open and transparent communication. I'm happy to support as long as it isn't introduced in some sneak underhanded way.

I saw the article this morning, about the changes to content features from now on, and can't help but feel that had it been released ( without Morrowind spoilers ) a week or so before the announcement of MW, rather than just sneaking it in there, and on the ESO plus page, that there may have been a lot less carry on around the forums.
That said, I was glad to see said article. I hope that in the future they take this kerfuffle into account, and be more upfront about stuff.

Ourorboros · February 2017

NovaShadow wrote: »

I personally won't be subbing again, I simply cannot trust what ZOS says. I see now the model with change each year and I guess I finally accept that. I don't want compensation, I will just play for free now.

^^^^This. It's obvious now zos can't be trusted ever. They will do what they will without regard for any prior communication. Paying for content, or not, that is here and not some vague promise is the way forward. I'll miss the craft bag, but easy come easy go.

code65536 · February 2017

Toss in a free crate each month.

ArchMikem · February 2017

"To compensate their loss", lol The poor things.

Ajaxduo · February 2017

Jemcrystal wrote: »

It is in stone. They are not going to change it. The Expansion/DLC/Update Morrowind will be at least $40 to everyone. Even the subscribers who thought all content was free because they subbed. I do not disagree or agree because I do not sub. It does not apply to me. But I am curious if anything would ever make up for this slight in your eyes? What could they offer (instead) only to subscribers to take away the burn? Ideas?

Pretty sure you get a discount if you own the base game. There is nothing wrong with what they are doing, just overly entitled players that are accustomed to sub = DLC system. Face it, this way we are getting more content. In the end it's just a game...if it burns that much don't put your hands in the fire