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Rakkhat exploit got hotfixed

  • Cpt_Teemo
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    I hope those people get perma-banned ffs. Even on EU there are now a lot of ppl with this Achievement.

    Yeah, love how some games totally ignore there own ToS.
  • Woeler
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.
    Edited by Woeler on January 24, 2017 9:05AM
  • Mojmir
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.

    So you got an in with the devs? Why aren't you guys getting the double mundus exploit fixed?
    Edited by Mojmir on January 24, 2017 9:09AM
  • timidobserver
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.

    So you got an in with the devs? Why aren't you guys getting the double mundus exploit fixed?

    Because having even 6 mundus stones isn't going to get you through vMoL HM like this bug will.
    Edited by timidobserver on January 24, 2017 9:09AM
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  • Mojmir
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.

    So you got an in with the devs? Why aren't you guys getting the double mundus exploit fixed?

    Because having even 6 mundus stones isn't going to get you through vMoL HM like this bug will.

    That's not the point,it's an exploit,you guys have raised hell since this thing happened and it got fixed, it's one freaking dungeon!!! Dbl mundus affects an entire playstyle in this game.
  • Woeler
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.

    So you got an in with the devs? Why aren't you guys getting the double mundus exploit fixed?

    Believe, we complained about that a lot. It's not like whatever we say gets fixed. We talk about many things and some do make it into incrementals. This is the second thing ever that got hotfixed via our chat (first being the first 2 chests in maw). It's not like we own a magic wand here.

    Also "why haven't you guys fixed the douvle mundus exploit". I don't think you know how this feedbacking works. We tell, they decide what to do when. We have no influence at all on their pace. We just report.
    Edited by Woeler on January 24, 2017 9:15AM
  • Mojmir
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.

    So you got an in with the devs? Why aren't you guys getting the double mundus exploit fixed?

    Believe, we complained about that a lot. It's not like whatever we say gets fixed. We talk about many things and some do make it into incrementals. This is the second thing ever that got hotfixed via our chat (first being the first 2 chests in maw). It's not like we own a magic wand here.

    So they fixed 2 things in the same trial but won't do crap for pvp,sounds pretty biased on their part
  • Woeler
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.

    So you got an in with the devs? Why aren't you guys getting the double mundus exploit fixed?

    Believe, we complained about that a lot. It's not like whatever we say gets fixed. We talk about many things and some do make it into incrementals. This is the second thing ever that got hotfixed via our chat (first being the first 2 chests in maw). It's not like we own a magic wand here.

    So they fixed 2 things in the same trial but won't do crap for pvp,sounds pretty biased on their part

    We talk to dungeon guys only. Dungeon guys fix dungeon stuff. It's as simple as that. They have nothing to do with pvp.
  • modaretto
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
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    Woeler wrote: »
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    Guess we should ban everyone skipping trash in COA II. Using terrain to ignore mechanics.

    Guess we should ban everyone magnum shotting to the Illambris twins. Using terrain to ignore mechanics.

    Guess we should ban everyone who doesn't face tank everything vs. Hiath. Using terrain to ignore mechanics.

    Please think about the precedent you would be setting before you start begging for bans.

    Skip trash / tanking adds away from the boss == sniping raid boss from outside the map while the boss stays still and can't do anything. Also, taking a shortcut route through the lava is totally the same as skipping over invisible walls to go into a chessboard land to walk around a raid.

    A magnificent comparison.

    And whatever that illambris thing is, if it involves killing the boss without the boss actually doing something/not entering combat, yea ban em, why not.

    A rose is a rose....is a rose.

    It's exploiting despite whatever excuses or fancy intellectualizing you managed to come up with. Because you are salty some dudes exploited their way to Dro'Mathra Destroyer is your personal issue. ZOS should not heed something because you are angry. Asking for punishment that does not follow suit for like exploitation in the game is nothing more than a testament to the meteoric rise of salt levels.

    Looks like someone is salty for missing the dromathra exploit :D

    But seriously speaking well done on the hotfix, really well done!
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  • modaretto
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    I think its time for all of us, PvP and PvE to come to the conclusion that there is NO real integral competitive endgame environment for either of us in Elder Scrolls Online. This game lacks the quality, integrity, and developer desire to sustain an endgame PvE or PvP community. ZOS cannot provide us with an exploit free, cheater free, or even bug/lag free environment that is essential for competitive hardcore PvE/PvP.

    Well said. This is the essence of this whole exploits + housing update topics that recently popped up.
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  • timidobserver
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Just to let you know. Got this info fresh from the devs.

    Hooray!

    Pics or it didn't happen. Why would devs tell you and not the whole community? Lol
    Because I as well as some other leaders from higher end raid guilds have a direct line of communication to some developers (IM/Phone). We even tested the hotfix on live with them before the patch notes on it were posted to ensure it was actually fixed.

    Just like there is a group of social/trading guilds that has direct contact to developers called "council of nirn", there is a group of raid guilds that has direct contact called "council of raiders". There might even be more groups like this, but I don't know them.

    Thank you very much.

    Let me now add the mandatory "lol" and give it back to you.

    Besides that, you could also have just gone to the patch notes section.

    So you got an in with the devs? Why aren't you guys getting the double mundus exploit fixed?

    Because having even 6 mundus stones isn't going to get you through vMoL HM like this bug will.

    That's not the point,it's an exploit,you guys have raised hell since this thing happened and it got fixed, it's one freaking dungeon!!! Dbl mundus affects an entire playstyle in this game.

    -shrug- The double mundus bug isn't my fault or the fault of anyone that complained about the MoL bug. Go talk to Zos.
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  • pattyLtd
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    Sooooo they fix this right after the weekend not something i've seen them done before and yet the Dro'mathra destroyerts keep nagging about banning players..... yea right those that said it was an elitist thing in that other thread clearly turned out to be right.

    Enjoy your title and i truelly have respect for the skill level of those players .... as for the exploits it wasn't live long enough to have a lasting impact sure a few hundred players that cba to heavy attack a 82M boss for hours might have it too now.

    Get over it.
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    @pattyLtd wrote: »
    Sooooo they fix this right after the weekend not something i've seen them done before and yet the Dro'mathra destroyerts keep nagging about banning players..... yea right those that said it was an elitist thing in that other thread clearly turned out to be right.

    Enjoy your title and i truelly have respect for the skill level of those players .... as for the exploits it wasn't live long enough to have a lasting impact sure a few hundred players that cba to heavy attack a 82M boss for hours might have it too now.

    Get over it.

    Im sorry but this "elitism" stuff has gone way to far already. Not supporting cheating is "elitist" now? :D Thats the weirdest definition of elitism Ive heard so far. Just... How? So for example if you or your friend were scammed with trade exploit, it would be "elitist" to report the scammer?
    Exploiting/cheating is a huge issue in this game and yeah, I also support patching pvp bugs/trade bugs/etc but I happened to know more about trials and pve. I would say that its good that raiding community is so negative towards exploiters... In pvp, I saw some of the top pvpers using wall glitches or stealing scrolls with Phoenix bug (when it was possible) like its not a big deal. And imo thats a freaking shame.
    Also, I would be happy if there would be more people with (legit) Dro-m'Athra Destroyer titles. :) Raiding community of this game is very small... And more people = more fun. Competition, all this stuff. I personally participated many vMoL training runs, and to be honest, I dont hate those people who glitched the title. I just think they've stolen a huge portion of fun and excitement from themselves (if theyre able to kill the second boss they could just proceed normally and kill Rakkhat). Hovewer, exploiting/cheating is an issue and it affects much more than jsut skins or titles so I think ZOS should be more strict when it comes to mass exploiting.
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on January 24, 2017 10:23AM
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  • pattyLtd
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    @KoshkaMurka

    i agree with you that they miss out on ever being able to get that awesome feeling it gives you when you and your friend finally beat something that seemed near impossible when you first started trying.

    Maybe i used the term "elitist" wrong i admit to that. I mostly am against the "ban them all" requests because it's also a game and the people you are willing to ban for using an exploit that allows them to kill the boss painfully slow in my opinion is just over the top.

    The exploit is fixed now and that's a good thing.
    Don't forget people will forget about this and the few that "glitched" their way into a skin or maybe even title will be the minority since it's been fixed very fast.
    Edited by pattyLtd on January 24, 2017 10:33AM
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  • johu31
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    I just auto assume everyone with the title and skin either cheated or paid for it.

  • Shad0wfire99
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    Can't cheat the skin. But it'll become clear whether or not you bought your skin 2 minutes into a trial run.


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  • johu31
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    Can't cheat the skin. But it'll become clear whether or not you bought your skin 2 minutes into a trial run.

    Pretty sure there's another glitche on one of the other maw bosses. Not going to talk about it though.
    Edited by johu31 on January 24, 2017 10:48AM
  • Shad0wfire99
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    johu31 wrote: »
    Can't cheat the skin. But it'll become clear whether or not you bought your skin 2 minutes into a trial run.

    Pretty sure there's another glitche on one of the other maw bosses. Not going to talk about it though.

    Yeah, I've heard of a glitch on the twins. But still, if you don't know the fights, everyone will know it pretty quickly. And quite frankly, from what I've heard, if you're doing score runs you're better off fighting them legit.


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  • LiquidSchwartz
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    bitels wrote: »
    How would they even determine who did it legit or not? I'm all for it, but there's no way to prove it unless you were to criminalize yourself by recording it

    From what i can get from this and previous thread player using exploit could get HM title, but couldnt get a skin (becouse for a skin you need to defeat all bosses in vMOL)
    So maybe just check ppl who have a title and dont have a skin?

    For the title and skin the other bosses had to be killed as well. They didn't say the fixed the glitch, just that the way to rakkhat out of the map was fixed.
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  • Tempah
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    What will actually happen to the players that have got the title/skin with this exploit?
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  • GeneralPardon
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    bitels wrote: »
    How would they even determine who did it legit or not? I'm all for it, but there's no way to prove it unless you were to criminalize yourself by recording it

    From what i can get from this and previous thread player using exploit could get HM title, but couldnt get a skin (becouse for a skin you need to defeat all bosses in vMOL)
    So maybe just check ppl who have a title and dont have a skin?

    For the title and skin the other bosses had to be killed as well. They didn't say the fixed the glitch, just that the way to rakkhat out of the map was fixed.

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  • olimarfreak
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    I hope those people get perma-banned ffs. Even on EU there are now a lot of ppl with this Achievement.

    Yeah, love how some games totally ignore there own ToS.

    It's BS. I don't care if there are dozens of people getting banned. But Zeni is always telling not to exploit and then seeing that Zeni won't do anything after that (just like now), just makes more people use exploits. It's ridiculous.
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  • Bonzodog01
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    So, this morning I log on, and people are talking in guild chat about running vMOL in the last few hours and the exploit has NOT been fixed on Xbox One EU.
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Bonzodog01 wrote: »
    So, this morning I log on, and people are talking in guild chat about running vMOL in the last few hours and the exploit has NOT been fixed on Xbox One EU.

    It's fixed. Trust me the wall is there.
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  • Waseem
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    this removed
    Edited by Waseem on January 24, 2017 3:41PM
  • Ballzy321
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    Why do people care if they exploited to get a skin honestly. I don't see guilds running people through maw to help out slot of these people. I sure see the millions of gold tho being charged for the skin by bringing in someone last boss of maw. Ban these people as well.
  • Waseem
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    ok exploit fixed time to dig for salt somewhere else
  • Beware13
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    Good, now let's roll back all the skins and titles people got in the last month, or even the last two weeks. I promise that if this effects raiders who got it the right way, they will get it again and the achievement (skin and title) will mean something again.

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    Edit: If people got banned for jumping into keeps in PVP, we can at least take the exploited skins and titles away....right?
    Edited by Beware13 on January 24, 2017 3:15PM
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  • Waseem
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    Oops, we can still actually dig for salt after the exploit has been fixed
    Please zenimax ban all players permanently and write their names on a "Wall of Shame" that we can see around
    make a "shame statue" that mentions each exploiter's name for housing so our characters can pee on

    ok lets get real for a sec, exploit fixed- dig no further, bans/titles/skins "stripping" is *** because it has no effect on other players. UNLIKE THE FREAKING 100000 TEMPERING ALLOY WRITS from exploit
  • MaxwellC
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    It would be nice if they put more effort into oh I don't know fixing the poor instances in trials/dungeons. Literally got wiped twice yesterday in vDSA thanks to all the lag this game has to offer. I didn't know that there was an exploit but if it was fixed that quickly jeez please put that much effort into making our instances somewhat bare-able (I understand they're different but damn it's infuriating).

    The lag in trials is also un-bare-able, especially if you're tanking like damn man. If they could give solid instances in PvE content I would give them a break when it comes to PvP but unfortunately that's not the case and I still think it has to do with the failed anti bot system that is still in place, since when that came it all came crashing down.
    Edited by MaxwellC on January 24, 2017 3:38PM
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