I win, I'm done!!!!!!! (IC Molag Bal Boss solo'd by Stam Sorc)

MEBengalsFan2001 · January 2017

Congrats! Soloing any content takes a bit of game mechanics knowledge, but truth be told, when these type of things happen, here comes the nerf hammer.

alexkdd99 · January 2017

Grabmoore wrote: »

You are PvPer I suppose?

Your view of things is yours. I however wouldn't feel any accomplishment when using cheap tools, even if they are available.

Sorcs are ez mode, same for proc set stacking or MIAs add on.

In my view there is no skill involved, but that's me

@thread: Nerf Sorc! :P

Ok go do the same..... People can never just say congratulations, instead they must try to bring down others achievements. You go do it on a sorc and then you can say it is ez mode.

Whiners will always try to ruin other people's fun.

Grabmoore · January 2017

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You are PvPer I suppose?

Your view of things is yours. I however wouldn't feel any accomplishment when using cheap tools, even if they are available.

Sorcs are ez mode, same for proc set stacking or MIAs add on.

In my view there is no skill involved, but that's me

@thread: Nerf Sorc! :P

I am a PvEr, run Trials and working on vet Maw every week. I would say there is/was skill involved.

Also, I used the build I typically use when I do vMA, so I assume you would say because I have a good vMA setup that took a while to construct and I would say takes skill to manage and play, that I am still an OP sorc?

Also in the screenshots I managed to take while dodging abilities from the boss, you can see the vet SO title, so I am curious as to how that made you think I was a PvPer...

well..

i post from phone and was refering to someone else. by no means i meant you

Grabmoore · January 2017

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You are PvPer I suppose?

Your view of things is yours. I however wouldn't feel any accomplishment when using cheap tools, even if they are available.

Sorcs are ez mode, same for proc set stacking or MIAs add on.

In my view there is no skill involved, but that's me

@thread: Nerf Sorc! :P

Ok go do the same..... People can never just say congratulations, instead they must try to bring down others achievements. You go do it on a sorc and then you can say it is ez mode.

Whiners will always try to ruin other people's fun.

Hm, i did. on my Templar.

...and i just moved on.

Im not saying OP did not achieve anything. Its just natural for Sorcs to claim those victories i guess?

be it first boss helra, world bosses or this.

Jurand80 · January 2017

Gratz! ^^

bubbygink · January 2017

I think it is a big misconception to say ZoS implemented a CP cap literally because somebody soloed Molag Bal. What actually happened was ZoS sort of used that as an example of how players had become too powerful with so much CP (and yes the person was emp so obviously it wasn't just the CP that made it possible). I remember somebody at ZoS saying something like "We have decided to implement a CP cap because players have just become too powerful for the content. Just as an example, somebody even soloed Molag Bal!"

In short, the CP cap was implemented because it allowed some players to become so strong it was impossible to balance content (can't balance content around players with 1,000+ CP when most players will never catch up to that). The Molag Bal solo was just an example of this which ZoS used to justify the cap.

Pinja · January 2017

Congrats but since they nerfed the ads in IC awhile ago most end game players could do that fight solo & magic templars just need to heal & keep one eye open for enemy players. Besides that it's just a long fight.

dodgehopper_ESO · January 2017

Nicely done. Its fun to do these kinds of things in a game. I'm envious of the reward you won, I've yet to have it drop for me but looking forward to it.

GawdSB · January 2017

Delete this hurry! Before Zenimax sees.

Jaronking · January 2017

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You are PvPer I suppose?

Your view of things is yours. I however wouldn't feel any accomplishment when using cheap tools, even if they are available.

Sorcs are ez mode, same for proc set stacking or MIAs add on.

In my view there is no skill involved, but that's me

@thread: Nerf Sorc! :P

I am a PvEr, run Trials and working on vet Maw every week. I would say there is/was skill involved.

Also, I used the build I typically use when I do vMA, so I assume you would say because I have a good vMA setup that took a while to construct and I would say takes skill to manage and play, that I am still an OP sorc?

Also in the screenshots I managed to take while dodging abilities from the boss, you can see the vet SO title, so I am curious as to how that made you think I was a PvPer...

How does that make you a PVER,Because you have a title you get from PVE?I guess am not a PVPer since I run Flawless Conq title and Mage slayer in Pvp even doe I would rekt majority of people in a 1v1 on a stamNB.

All in All congratulations on soloing the boss.

Also just to mess with @Vaoh nerf sorcs and pets so its even harder for him to solo content.Pet buffs going make it to easy for him.

Bloody-Goodbyes · January 2017

Grats! Not an easy feat for most players. /clap

Franieck · January 2017

I also managed to solo kill molag ball!!!

on story mode...

driosketch · January 2017

bubbygink wrote: »

I think it is a big misconception to say ZoS implemented a CP cap literally because somebody soloed Molag Bal. What actually happened was ZoS sort of used that as an example of how players had become too powerful with so much CP (and yes the person was emp so obviously it wasn't just the CP that made it possible). I remember somebody at ZoS saying something like "We have decided to implement a CP cap because players have just become too powerful for the content. Just as an example, somebody even soloed Molag Bal!"

In short, the CP cap was implemented because it allowed some players to become so strong it was impossible to balance content (can't balance content around players with 1,000+ CP when most players will never catch up to that). The Molag Bal solo was just an example of this which ZoS used to justify the cap.

Right, but SG Celerrimus did it with less CP, and unless this was left out, without being emp.

I know they nerfed the banner sewer sweepers down to 4 player difficulty. So unless Molag Bal got the same treatment, or maybe it affected the portals themselves, OP's accomplishment is even greater. But it also still requires the devs at least take another look at content balancing.

FriedEggSandwich · January 2017

Faulgor wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Sorc, stam and magicka, does have a much better survivability than any other class. If you check the maelstrom scores you will see that the scores are much higher with sorcs than with any other class. I think that it's a great indicative that the sorcs are easily outperforming the other classes.

Anyway, soloing molag bag is a great achievment, congratz.

VMA sorc scores are mostly down to high ranged dps and overload, and their survivability comes mostly from surge. Surge is borderline op for solo pve. If sorcs do have an advantage over other classes it's because of surge. I say this because people can assume it's the ward that gets them good scores, but in reality the more you cast your ward the lower your score will be.

Magsorcs don't have easy access to snare removal, and although they have access to major expedition from boundless storm that isn't a skill you slot for vma if you're going for high score, same with streak. So min-maxed magsorcs going for high score are not very mobile and ward is kind of necessary if you get snared in red. In theory ward-less high score runs should be possible but positioning would have to be flawless which is unlikely with rng mechanics.

I don't disagree that magsorcs have a couple of the best tools for solo pve, but I don't agree that this means they generally outperform other classes. They just outperform other classes at vma and soloing dungeons.

Yeah, I always felt so. Classes/builds that can heal while attacking, i.e. Sorcerers and Magicka Templars (Magblades to a lesser extent) have the highest skill floor in solo PvE, meaning you start pretty comfortably ahead of everyone else. It's just that much more forgiving when you make mistakes with these builds.

I soloed the portals in Barathrum Centrata because of this, back when Stamsorc wasn't that cool yet. But never attempted Molag Bal himself, so nice job well done.

I get your point, however I would argue that sorcs don't start particularly comfortably. The first heal they have access to is grand healing from resto skill line, and the first ward they have access to is annulment. They don't unlock their class defining skills until quite late in their skill lines, and until then they have to make do with actually being pretty squishy and ineffectual. This is why you see baby sorcs running around with clanfear tanks. Also sorc skills are pretty expensive when compared to mNB for example; sorcs have to focus heavily on cost reduction and regen early if they want to be successful. Sorc playstyle isn't forgiving from the get go, whereas I would argue that templar and maybe even NB was more so. I would agree that sorc was one of the most forgiving classes in vma though.