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Sap Tank Nerfs - Why?

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GrumpyDuckling
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If the objective for balancing is to lower the ceiling and raise the floor, then why are ultimate regen/reduction builds (which are the absolute ceiling for tanking) going mostly untouched in update 13, while sap tank builds are getting heavy nerfs?

- Bahara's Curse no longer crits
- Leeching Plates no longer crits
- Malubeth monster helm now occupies major mending
  • Sugaroverdose
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    Because Malubeh is still heals for insane numbers with one tick
    Damaging sets no longer crit at all, so it's worldwide tuning, but not specifically nerf of sap tank
  • Juhasow
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    You cant look at the changes into the game only from 1 build perspective and saying that it's bad change. There are always some changes that affects few builds in bad way but helping overall ballance.
    Edited by Juhasow on January 17, 2017 11:57AM
  • Brrrofski
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    Malaubeth needed a nerf.

    Well, it no longer stacks with major vitality, so only a nerf if you used those pots I guess, right?

    Baharas and leeching is stupid though. Classic example of lazy, blanket nerfs rather than addressing individual problems.

    Luckily, I dropped baharas for bloodthorn touch last patch and I use grothdrarr, so this won't chance my saptank at all.
  • Rex-Umbra
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    My Sap Tank used none of those sets but the HA and NB ability nerds hurt.
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  • idk
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    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
    If the objective for balancing is to lower the ceiling and raise the floor, then why are ultimate regen/reduction builds (which are the absolute ceiling for tanking) going mostly untouched in update 13, while sap tank builds are getting heavy nerfs?

    - Bahara's Curse no longer crits
    - Leeching Plates no longer crits
    - Malubeth monster helm now occupies major mending

    @GrumpyDuckling

    Everything you mention is not about NBs but about proc sets.
  • technohic
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    My Sap Tank used none of those sets but the HA and NB ability nerds hurt.

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  • GrumpyDuckling
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    Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
    If the objective for balancing is to lower the ceiling and raise the floor, then why are ultimate regen/reduction builds (which are the absolute ceiling for tanking) going mostly untouched in update 13, while sap tank builds are getting heavy nerfs?

    - Bahara's Curse no longer crits
    - Leeching Plates no longer crits
    - Malubeth monster helm now occupies major mending

    @GrumpyDuckling

    Everything you mention is not about NBs but about proc sets.

    Not every sap tank has to be Nightblade
  • Lore_lai
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    Good riddance to Malucheese. About time that change was made.
    Also, I might add that patch notes say it was given Major Vitality. It still stacks with Major Mending but not with the Vitality potion (and for good reason).

    Now Reactive nerf too, pls.
  • leepalmer95
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    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
    Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
    If the objective for balancing is to lower the ceiling and raise the floor, then why are ultimate regen/reduction builds (which are the absolute ceiling for tanking) going mostly untouched in update 13, while sap tank builds are getting heavy nerfs?

    - Bahara's Curse no longer crits
    - Leeching Plates no longer crits
    - Malubeth monster helm now occupies major mending

    @GrumpyDuckling

    Everything you mention is not about NBs but about proc sets.

    Not every sap tank has to be Nightblade

    Yes they do, the build sap tank comes from sap essence skill, hence the name.
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  • Anhedonie
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    Malubeth is balanced now.
    As for other stuff...well, remember that movie "V for vendetta"?

    In ESO "W" means "why the *** would you nerf this to oblivion?"
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  • GrumpyDuckling
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    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
    Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
    If the objective for balancing is to lower the ceiling and raise the floor, then why are ultimate regen/reduction builds (which are the absolute ceiling for tanking) going mostly untouched in update 13, while sap tank builds are getting heavy nerfs?

    - Bahara's Curse no longer crits
    - Leeching Plates no longer crits
    - Malubeth monster helm now occupies major mending

    @GrumpyDuckling

    Everything you mention is not about NBs but about proc sets.

    Not every sap tank has to be Nightblade

    Yes they do, the build sap tank comes from sap essence skill, hence the name.

    Leeching and Bahara's sap from enemies. Any class can wear those sets.
  • NightbladeMechanics
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    Sap nightblade tanking without Vitality potions will be interesting. I'll have to test how that performs...
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    Because Saptank isn't meta and isn't part of the box they wanna put tanking in.

    In all seriousness, they probably dont -care- about Saptank. It was just in the line of fire for alot of blanket nerfs and is a disposable spec, so.
    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on January 18, 2017 8:34PM
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    Plus the cost increase to strife hurts sap tanks even more. Stupid...
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