and 3 more months with nothing to do...

RebornV3x · January 2017

Just gives me more time to beat the other achievements in the game

Agalloch · January 2017

ToxicPAWS wrote: »

My point is simple for all the players who have been here before Subscription mode was ended and Era of crown store and DLC began or those who have been here long enough to go thorough and complete 90-95% of ESO Content. I'm leaving 5-10% for PVP as there is nothing much to do but same thing everyday till you get the alliance rank to top and then you continue to do some more of what you've been doing (and with that also brings the point for PVP players, who are yet to see anything new after original Cyrrodil was given and since then....and don't even mention the crap imperial city pls..).

So, as a veteran ESO player,
1. I and you, we've done almost every dungeons more times than we'd like to admit.
2. Trials-done, HM achievements-Done (well, vMOL-HM is still in progress but that's only for less than 1% player base so doesn't count),
3. all main and zone story lines, quests done.
4. Crafting maxed out with all achievements all motifs (for most)- Done.
5. Craglorn (the original and last ESO adventure Zone)- Done twice now (tx for resetting it for me ZOS and making me waste my time redoing it.).
6. DLC- Imperial city, Wrothgar, TG, DB, SoTH- Done.
7. 1T- was there anything to do? can't remember.

SO, if I see this correctly, after SoTH, which gave us 2 dungeons, it's been almost or more than 6 months, we are yet to see a single piece of new content to do. Now in February, we'll get housing, which is nothing but a gold sink for players with absolutely 0 return in terms of game play experience, it'd be another 3 months before the next patch/DLC, for which we've no information. So far 9 months, we got nothing but either repeat the same old content or grind till you fingers hurt or you go brain-dead. Now i've been a ESO+ member for all this time, and i've paid them almost 100$ for WHAT?

As it has been pretty evident that ZOS has been making the effort to bring more new customers into the game and try to give them every possible handout to reach the End game as soon as possible so that they don't get bored of grinding and leveling and leave the game, but they don't realize is that in time, these new will become old and will be at the same standpoint where i/we are today. And they will be asking the same question. Hand holding for new players, i don't mind, but sidestepping the Old Players? That's a treatment I'll not accept.

In a recent comment from @ZOS_RichLambert , he mentioned that he is trying to bridge the gap between high and low DPS by whatever balancing they are doing, and also said specifically that to achieve that they are bringing the top ceiling DOWN. Now if that is not a insult to players who have given their time and money and efforts to practice and reach that Ceiling lvl, which ZOS is trying to pull down only so that new players don't feel bad as they are no where even close.

Now, don't make this thread abut new vs old player and their DPS capabilities or how easy it is to do everything even without max CP, this thread is not about that. It asks a very specific question- 9 MONTHS (incl upcoming housing patch) and nothing to do for old/ veteran players and for how long it is going to be like that.

So many ESO-you tubers have almost nothing to tube about, as all the challenging content is over and there is nothing further to do. People like @Alcast and some others are posting Motif videos on their channels, rather than posting some meaningful content, because they have nothing to do in this game and show on their channel. I ask all those you-tubers out there, what would they prefer to put on their channels, a new Hardcore trial/ dungeon run, a new interesting build or a new motif video or how to make furniture tutorial?

it's OK ZOS to comeout with all these new ideas that you are implementing in the game for the new players and in turn pushing the business, but Please do not side step old players and punish them by not giving them anything to do. I've no idea how long it takes you for new content creation, but a dungeon or 2 would be nice every patch and maybe a trial every 6 months at least. or else the vet crowd is simply going to disappear, which i'm sure you've already realized and have already put your plans in motion with the new generation.

For many, i'm sure Housing will be the 2nd last nail of coffin if nothing better comes out next patch.

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_MattFiror

Agree 100% !

This is the first MMO played by me since Meridian 59 where developers are nerfing players !!

They must add content equally for the newcomers and also for veterans. They must provide tutorials for many aspects of the game, how to make a build , how to play a veteran dungeon..etc...they must show numbers ...it's so frustrating to not see many aspects of your character , mechanics..gear, world, group mates.

Even the item comparison is frustrating and confusing . This is a MMO for God sake! A MMO is all about progression, vertical and horizontal. New players must work and progress as vets did . 1 Tamriel already become a very pleasant MMO for the newcomers . Why nerf the players? I played almost a year to reach vet 16 on my first account..now you can reach lvl 50 and cp 561 very quick...only in a few weeks. Alts are easier to make also after you reach cp 561 with your first character.

ESO is still the best MMO for me ...but hope to not turn in a Call Of Duty with housing simulation and casino games ( crown crates) . Also I hope to not transform in Fashion Wars ( look at Guild Wars 2 )

English is not my native language

Pinja · January 2017

Boy don't you know, their gutting out & dulling down the combat system next patch so all you'll have to do is Role play & enjoy the new patch. They're sending all of us Vicious old players home with our curse. Apparently we're too good, know how play better then a noob some how, & need to be toned down/'simplified' so the newest players can match our formerly complex rotation without an air of practice, mastery, or thought.
Check this Rich Post out.
Like really they try to clone the most advance builds in game, suck because they don't know/run the builds rotation right, & get frustrated to rage quit then take to time to learn game. So you'd rather tailor the direction of ESO to players who didn't even immerse themselves & literally put no personal exploitative effort to learn cooldown of animations, passives, or sets.
You've already scale them to our level, now your making it so we can't even operate above them with our literal experience? Your removing the last edge of your actual fan base, critics, & supporters who took the time to enjoy & discover the content, all so entry lvl players can frolic with one generic equal form of play from off of deltias website?

Brrrofski · January 2017

What you on about?

You get another 3 months of banging your head against a wall in PvP. What more do you want??

Molec · January 2017

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

It takes years sometimes to develop even just a trial so expecting fresh new content every couple months while getting massive bugs/exploits fixed is not realistic.

Is this a serious statement? With the sheer volume of assets at the disposal of the level design team they could technically throw a new trial out every week if they wanted to without wasting too many human resources, they have a huge selection of mobs/skills and in most cases the bosses in dungeons and trials are those very same recycled mobs that have been scaled in size to 300% using the same skills but with increased damage. It's a case of "treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen" when dealing with new game focused playable DLC.

Gedalya · January 2017

Stopped reading about halfway through. Yes there are players such as myself who have done most content. I keep playing because I love the game; the tone of this post is confusing though, it almost seems as if someone is logging on and playing but not enjoying simply because they have done it all, and why would you do that? Take a break. Go for a jog or play something else for while. I myself am having fun with a new character.

As for housing; love it and just about everything about it except for two things:

lack of storage
the fact that non-Crown Store exclusive houses will be purchasable by Crowns in addition to Gold. I'd prefer that only CC exclusive content be purchasable by Crowns; especially as I like that there is so much that is achievement based related to housing; being able to CC purchase around requirements is lame.

andreasranasen · January 2017

I believe this is the end of ESO to be honest. Game has been out for three years and no one still don't know what the future holds for this game or what the plans are. They never built a solid foundation and a solid story for this game which is incredibly disappointing as Elder Scrolls franchise have so much content to use, explore and build on.

We haven't got actual content for OVER A YEAR. These little mini DLC's didn't keep players interested for more than a few days.

I feel ESO has become a pastime until something better comes out on the market...

I feel that housing was NEVER needed in this game. No one asked for ESO The Sims version 2.0. We just asked for a smoother running game with new, exciting things to explore, new classes, weapons, maps, redesigned PvP, explore every inch of Tamriel and dive into awesome quests. That's what we asked for.

UrbanMonk · January 2017

Pinja wrote: »

You've already scale them to our level,

THIS and still nerf vet players. like no content was not enough so now push them into RP.

UrbanMonk · January 2017

Gedalya wrote: »

Stopped reading about halfway through. Yes there are players such as myself who have done most content. I keep playing because I love the game; the tone of this post is confusing though, it almost seems as if someone is logging on and playing but not enjoying simply because they have done it all, and why would you do that? Take a break. Go for a jog or play something else for while. I myself am having fun with a new character.

As for housing; love it and just about everything about it except for two things:
lack of storage

the fact that non-Crown Store exclusive houses will be purchasable by Crowns in addition to Gold. I'd prefer that only CC exclusive content be purchasable by Crowns; especially as I like that there is so much that is achievement based related to housing; being able to CC purchase around requirements is lame.

No one is saying that we don't love this game. We all do and that's why we are still here. And all the extra carricular activities you suggested, we do. But after that when we come back, what do we find ? NILL, NOTHING, NADA..... After SoTH, there hasn't been a single content worth doing. And it follows to the next housing patch as well.

Regarding housing, i've no interest in that but on the other hand i don't mind a lot of players being happy and excited about it. Fine by me. But to make those people happy, dont sideline the others who'll get nothing from the coming patch or are still waiting since last 2.

Cencewolf · January 2017

I think its just this simple,..

Without the ability to display your item sets (or at least have general storage) in housing... It offers nothing. "Oh my god look at my awsome house where me and my guildies gather to... Stand around aimlessly"... Booooo.. Who gives a steamy pile where ppl "gather" before auto-loading into a dungeon..since even that is un-necessary.

The core game has been trivialized to the point where you need not experiance any character advancement,... No levels, cookie cutter meta, trivialized crafting advancement,....

Yeah i myself,...after a short year or so am commimg up on pretty much nothing to work toward... hell i don't even need to grind cp on multiple characters because after you get them once, all your characters do. Its puzzling to me how there are those who have played for damn near 3 years, my hat it is off to you. I really want to know what you do with your time...

This whole modern gaming fad of "let everyone have everything without having to work toward it" limits the life cycle of any mmo,.. and yes its concerning.

/agree OP,.. screw housing,.. Instead ++ challenge, content and more ways to individualize your character in skills

UrbanMonk · January 2017

Cencewolf wrote: »

Its puzzling to me how there are those who have played for damn near 3 years, my hat it is off to you. I really want to know what you do with your time...

No idea m8, becuse there is nothing to do and again, no idea what we do?

tunepunk · January 2017

Cencewolf wrote: »

I think its just this simple,..

/agree OP,.. screw housing,.. Instead ++ challenge, content and more ways to individualize your character in skills

Right on the spot.

I don't really mind that they don't add any new landmasses, since the continent is massive already. I would rather they polish what they have already. Make it deeper, more engaging, instead of turning it in to a grindfest for gold, resources & gear.

I love working on my character and builds to improve the way I play. I just wish they made it a little bit more immersive instead of forcing you to grind, farm, repeat... That's pretty much my only complaint. After finishing all the main quests, it's just an empty world with props and a few dailies you can do over and over.

For example: I wouldn't mind hunting for motifs/sets/achievments if it came in a quest line or something that you could do at your own pace. But farming farming, farming and endless, same spots, for a small chance of getting something that doesn't go directly to deconstruct would be nice.

AlnilamE · January 2017

OP, you are more efficient than I am. I'm still puttering along. I've not actually finished TG or DB on any of my characters, and Wrothgar on only one.

I do have the Master Angler title though. :-)

Agalloch · January 2017

The easiest thing they could implement is to add another tier , ELITE, to the existing dungeons with nice rewards..like no prosperous or training trait items ..or a "trait exchange token" that can change the item traits .
So no more bad traits item drops frustration.

English is not my native language.

technohic · January 2017

I just came back and I have a ton to do that I haven't yet. Also joined a guild that is actually pretty active. I've even done some group PvE.

Pretty much can't recommend enough to just take a break if you are bored and come back when you feel some interest in whats going on. It makes for a much more enjoyable experience.

Brrrofski · January 2017

Yeh, housing without storage is pointless.

My guild are just gonna buy a guild mansion with some training dummies and most popular crafted sets there. No strogage means it's pointless having your own house.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · January 2017

Cencewolf wrote: »

This whole modern gaming fad of "let everyone have everything without having to work toward it" limits the life cycle of any mmo,.. and yes its concerning.

Not just this but also the new free to play model is messing with things as well. In older games you could have hard to complete quest or achievements that people would spend a long time trying to complete because it gave a rare mount or pet.

Now? No such luck. They need to sell those things to you. So here have a title, or a color for the dye station that wont look anything like that color anyway, if you can dye the item at all.

Prof_Bawbag · January 2017

frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »

ToxicPAWS wrote: »

My point is simple for all the players who have been here before Subscription mode was ended and Era of crown store and DLC began or those who have been here long enough to go thorough and complete 90-95% of ESO Content. I'm leaving 5-10% for PVP as there is nothing much to do but same thing everyday till you get the alliance rank to top and then you continue to do some more of what you've been doing (and with that also brings the point for PVP players, who are yet to see anything new after original Cyrrodil was given and since then....and don't even mention the crap imperial city pls..).

So, as a veteran ESO player,
1. I and you, we've done almost every dungeons more times than we'd like to admit.
2. Trials-done, HM achievements-Done (well, vMOL-HM is still in progress but that's only for less than 1% player base so doesn't count),
3. all main and zone story lines, quests done.
4. Crafting maxed out with all achievements all motifs (for most)- Done.
5. Craglorn (the original and last ESO adventure Zone)- Done twice now (tx for resetting it for me ZOS and making me waste my time redoing it.).
6. DLC- Imperial city, Wrothgar, TG, DB, SoTH- Done.
7. 1T- was there anything to do? can't remember.

SO, if I see this correctly, after SoTH, which gave us 2 dungeons, it's been almost or more than 6 months, we are yet to see a single piece of new content to do. Now in February, we'll get housing, which is nothing but a gold sink for players with absolutely 0 return in terms of game play experience, it'd be another 3 months before the next patch/DLC, for which we've no information. So far 9 months, we got nothing but either repeat the same old content or grind till you fingers hurt or you go brain-dead. Now i've been a ESO+ member for all this time, and i've paid them almost 100$ for WHAT?

As it has been pretty evident that ZOS has been making the effort to bring more new customers into the game and try to give them every possible handout to reach the End game as soon as possible so that they don't get bored of grinding and leveling and leave the game, but they don't realize is that in time, these new will become old and will be at the same standpoint where i/we are today. And they will be asking the same question. Hand holding for new players, i don't mind, but sidestepping the Old Players? That's a treatment I'll not accept.

In a recent comment from @ZOS_RichLambert , he mentioned that he is trying to bridge the gap between high and low DPS by whatever balancing they are doing, and also said specifically that to achieve that they are bringing the top ceiling DOWN. Now if that is not a insult to players who have given their time and money and efforts to practice and reach that Ceiling lvl, which ZOS is trying to pull down only so that new players don't feel bad as they are no where even close.

Now, don't make this thread abut new vs old player and their DPS capabilities or how easy it is to do everything even without max CP, this thread is not about that. It asks a very specific question- 9 MONTHS (incl upcoming housing patch) and nothing to do for old/ veteran players and for how long it is going to be like that.

So many ESO-you tubers have almost nothing to tube about, as all the challenging content is over and there is nothing further to do. People like @Alcast and some others are posting Motif videos on their channels, rather than posting some meaningful content, because they have nothing to do in this game and show on their channel. I ask all those you-tubers out there, what would they prefer to put on their channels, a new Hardcore trial/ dungeon run, a new interesting build or a new motif video or how to make furniture tutorial?

it's OK ZOS to comeout with all these new ideas that you are implementing in the game for the new players and in turn pushing the business, but Please do not side step old players and punish them by not giving them anything to do. I've no idea how long it takes you for new content creation, but a dungeon or 2 would be nice every patch and maybe a trial every 6 months at least. or else the vet crowd is simply going to disappear, which i'm sure you've already realized and have already put your plans in motion with the new generation.

For many, i'm sure Housing will be the 2nd last nail of coffin if nothing better comes out next patch.

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_MattFiror

Agree 100% !

This is the first MMO played by me since Meridian 59 where developers are nerfing players !!

They must add content equally for the newcomers and also for veterans. They must provide tutorials for many aspects of the game, how to make a build , how to play a veteran dungeon..etc...they must show numbers ...it's so frustrating to not see many aspects of your character , mechanics..gear, world, group mates.

Even the item comparison is frustrating and confusing . This is a MMO for God sake! A MMO is all about progression, vertical and horizontal. New players must work and progress as vets did . 1 Tamriel already become a very pleasant MMO for the newcomers . Why nerf the players? I played almost a year to reach vet 16 on my first account..now you can reach lvl 50 and cp 561 very quick...only in a few weeks. Alts are easier to make also after you reach cp 561 with your first character.

ESO is still the best MMO for me ...but hope to not turn in a Call Of Duty with housing simulation and casino games ( crown crates) . Also I hope to not transform in Fashion Wars ( look at Guild Wars 2 )

English is not my native language

Exaggerate much? There's no way you're gonna get to CP561 in a 'few weeks' on a brand new account unless you're playing this game constantly for the best part of 16 hours a-day. I returned to ESO around 4 months ago and due to just having had back surgery around that time was able to put more hours into the game than a large portion of people. I'm only at CP410. It will probably take another 2 months for me to get to 561, never mind the incoming increase. Now I'm back at work, I'm assuming my play time is now around average.

Unless of course I've picked you up incorrectly, then apologies.

MopeyHat · January 2017

I expect the reason you haven't seen much new content, assets, etc is that the art and dungeon teams are working on Vvardenfel. I think it's probably going to be the largest dlc yet if we are to believe what has been datamined.

If the game bores you, just take a break. Invite your friends to play something else for a while. Take up another hobby. There's plenty of excitement coming later in the year.

White wabbit · January 2017

Brrrofski wrote: »

Yeh, housing without storage is pointless.

My guild are just gonna buy a guild mansion with some training dummies and most popular crafted sets there. No strogage means it's pointless having your own house.

What he really means by training dummies is having some guild members stand around in the court yard

djyrb · January 2017

ToxicPAWS wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

I get where you're coming from, but I see it as an incentive to actually find the motivation to do previous content

Like fishing for the unique decorations, or the map quests etc

But yeah if you've already done all that stuff then it could be a bit boring

That's the whole point. I've 2 accounts with 750+ CP and atleast one chr in both accounts with 19500+ Achiements points.
I recently started playing on NA server, in 2 weeks now i've 210+ CP, with 10k fish, 1lmsot 1 mil in acc, and my own 350+ stong trading guild. BUT i've nothing to do in the game as far as any meaning full content is concerned. and i'm sure it's a case qith many players around here.

With all due respect, have you tried taking a break from the game? This post here indicates that you have put a lot of time into ESO over the years. I've been here since early 2014 pre-launch betas, and believe me, I understand your frustration. It was way worse back in those days, as there was so little content to do, and very little reason to repeat it. I also have multiple accounts and would level alts constantly out of sheer boredom.

I played daily from launch until early 2015, when I ragequit over the B2P and CP changes making our characters weaker. Since then I've had interspersed 3-4 month periods where I play ESO and then another few months where I don't, after I become bored. During those breaks, sometimes I get into another game, and other times it's a gaming free period of time for other hobbies. Try something like that out, the devs obviously can't keep up with players who put so much time in, and to be fair, I don't think any game really can.

Stovahkiin · January 2017

Flaminir · January 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

I believe this is the end of ESO to be honest. Game has been out for three years and no one still don't know what the future holds for this game or what the plans are. They never built a solid foundation and a solid story for this game which is incredibly disappointing as Elder Scrolls franchise have so much content to use, explore and build on.

We haven't got actual content for OVER A YEAR. These little mini DLC's didn't keep players interested for more than a few days.

I feel ESO has become a pastime until something better comes out on the market...

I feel that housing was NEVER needed in this game. No one asked for ESO The Sims version 2.0. We just asked for a smoother running game with new, exciting things to explore, new classes, weapons, maps, redesigned PvP, explore every inch of Tamriel and dive into awesome quests. That's what we asked for.

I totally agree with the OP's sentiment of we need more actual content to play... but I think your post about it being the end of ESO is probably a very long way from the mark.

Since 1T there seems to be more people than ever in the game.... this is something pretty much everybody agrees on. HArdly the sign of a game about to die.

Whilst your opinion that housing wasn't needed is totally valid, have you seen the feedback for the past 3 years? a v v significant proportion of the playerbase have been clamouring for this since launch. Its an ElderScrolls staple... people have been desperate for it, and there's a lot of excitement out there about it. I'd agree that its mostly grind, and lots of things I'd do differently with it... but I'd say that yes it was needed, and YES people have asked for this... probably the majority tbh.

We do know quite a bit about whats at an advanced stage / likely to be out this year... even if they haven't put a date on it. Thats what I'd like to see from them, a road ahead article laying out the main developments for the year... including Vvardenfell, Battlegrounds etc.

We know its coming thanks to datamining... would be nice to see it officially announced though.

P.S. We had a hint at the future storylines at the end of the Orsinium storyline now that Molag Bal has been banished.... and it involves the daedric princes and a war!

GreenhaloX · January 2017

Fishing..

Agalloch · January 2017

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »

ToxicPAWS wrote: »

My point is simple for all the players who have been here before Subscription mode was ended and Era of crown store and DLC began or those who have been here long enough to go thorough and complete 90-95% of ESO Content. I'm leaving 5-10% for PVP as there is nothing much to do but same thing everyday till you get the alliance rank to top and then you continue to do some more of what you've been doing (and with that also brings the point for PVP players, who are yet to see anything new after original Cyrrodil was given and since then....and don't even mention the crap imperial city pls..).

So, as a veteran ESO player,
1. I and you, we've done almost every dungeons more times than we'd like to admit.
2. Trials-done, HM achievements-Done (well, vMOL-HM is still in progress but that's only for less than 1% player base so doesn't count),
3. all main and zone story lines, quests done.
4. Crafting maxed out with all achievements all motifs (for most)- Done.
5. Craglorn (the original and last ESO adventure Zone)- Done twice now (tx for resetting it for me ZOS and making me waste my time redoing it.).
6. DLC- Imperial city, Wrothgar, TG, DB, SoTH- Done.
7. 1T- was there anything to do? can't remember.

SO, if I see this correctly, after SoTH, which gave us 2 dungeons, it's been almost or more than 6 months, we are yet to see a single piece of new content to do. Now in February, we'll get housing, which is nothing but a gold sink for players with absolutely 0 return in terms of game play experience, it'd be another 3 months before the next patch/DLC, for which we've no information. So far 9 months, we got nothing but either repeat the same old content or grind till you fingers hurt or you go brain-dead. Now i've been a ESO+ member for all this time, and i've paid them almost 100$ for WHAT?

As it has been pretty evident that ZOS has been making the effort to bring more new customers into the game and try to give them every possible handout to reach the End game as soon as possible so that they don't get bored of grinding and leveling and leave the game, but they don't realize is that in time, these new will become old and will be at the same standpoint where i/we are today. And they will be asking the same question. Hand holding for new players, i don't mind, but sidestepping the Old Players? That's a treatment I'll not accept.

In a recent comment from @ZOS_RichLambert , he mentioned that he is trying to bridge the gap between high and low DPS by whatever balancing they are doing, and also said specifically that to achieve that they are bringing the top ceiling DOWN. Now if that is not a insult to players who have given their time and money and efforts to practice and reach that Ceiling lvl, which ZOS is trying to pull down only so that new players don't feel bad as they are no where even close.

Now, don't make this thread abut new vs old player and their DPS capabilities or how easy it is to do everything even without max CP, this thread is not about that. It asks a very specific question- 9 MONTHS (incl upcoming housing patch) and nothing to do for old/ veteran players and for how long it is going to be like that.

So many ESO-you tubers have almost nothing to tube about, as all the challenging content is over and there is nothing further to do. People like @Alcast and some others are posting Motif videos on their channels, rather than posting some meaningful content, because they have nothing to do in this game and show on their channel. I ask all those you-tubers out there, what would they prefer to put on their channels, a new Hardcore trial/ dungeon run, a new interesting build or a new motif video or how to make furniture tutorial?

it's OK ZOS to comeout with all these new ideas that you are implementing in the game for the new players and in turn pushing the business, but Please do not side step old players and punish them by not giving them anything to do. I've no idea how long it takes you for new content creation, but a dungeon or 2 would be nice every patch and maybe a trial every 6 months at least. or else the vet crowd is simply going to disappear, which i'm sure you've already realized and have already put your plans in motion with the new generation.

For many, i'm sure Housing will be the 2nd last nail of coffin if nothing better comes out next patch.

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_MattFiror

Agree 100% !

This is the first MMO played by me since Meridian 59 where developers are nerfing players !!

They must add content equally for the newcomers and also for veterans. They must provide tutorials for many aspects of the game, how to make a build , how to play a veteran dungeon..etc...they must show numbers ...it's so frustrating to not see many aspects of your character , mechanics..gear, world, group mates.

Even the item comparison is frustrating and confusing . This is a MMO for God sake! A MMO is all about progression, vertical and horizontal. New players must work and progress as vets did . 1 Tamriel already become a very pleasant MMO for the newcomers . Why nerf the players? I played almost a year to reach vet 16 on my first account..now you can reach lvl 50 and cp 561 very quick...only in a few weeks. Alts are easier to make also after you reach cp 561 with your first character.

ESO is still the best MMO for me ...but hope to not turn in a Call Of Duty with housing simulation and casino games ( crown crates) . Also I hope to not transform in Fashion Wars ( look at Guild Wars 2 )

English is not my native language

Exaggerate much? There's no way you're gonna get to CP561 in a 'few weeks' on a brand new account unless you're playing this game constantly for the best part of 16 hours a-day. I returned to ESO around 4 months ago and due to just having had back surgery around that time was able to put more hours into the game than a large portion of people. I'm only at CP410. It will probably take another 2 months for me to get to 561, never mind the incoming increase. Now I'm back at work, I'm assuming my play time is now around average.

Unless of course I've picked you up incorrectly, then apologies.

Dolmen farming with double xp. Maybe I exaggerated a little..my apologies @Prof_Bawbag

As a completion of other post .they must implement an achievement reward system with good incentive.

What's the point to have 20 000 AP?

How about every 500-1000 earned to receive crowns or crown store items..or a crown crate???

Guild Wars 2 is doing very well with its achievement rewards system https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Achievement_rewards

English is not my native language.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · January 2017

Flaminir wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

I believe this is the end of ESO to be honest. Game has been out for three years and no one still don't know what the future holds for this game or what the plans are. They never built a solid foundation and a solid story for this game which is incredibly disappointing as Elder Scrolls franchise have so much content to use, explore and build on.

We haven't got actual content for OVER A YEAR. These little mini DLC's didn't keep players interested for more than a few days.

I feel ESO has become a pastime until something better comes out on the market...

I feel that housing was NEVER needed in this game. No one asked for ESO The Sims version 2.0. We just asked for a smoother running game with new, exciting things to explore, new classes, weapons, maps, redesigned PvP, explore every inch of Tamriel and dive into awesome quests. That's what we asked for.

Since 1T there seems to be more people than ever in the game.... this is something pretty much everybody agrees on. HArdly the sign of a game about to die.

Just to be that guy. I will point out, this means litte. So you are saying since the patch that removed the barrier kept you from seeing somewhere around 2/3rds of the people playing, it seems like you are seeing more people? Im shocked!

Then add in the fact you are playing on a server with different channels. One you have no control over. Say before 1t the max players per channel was 25. And in 1t they upped it to 50. Now each channels seems twice as busy as before! Not knowing these numbers or even how many channels there are or if anything was changed leaves us with nothing.

Im not saying that the game isnt growing or shrinking. Im just saying what players see in game doesnt mean a whole lot. Outside of making you feel better that there are other players around.

elvenmad · January 2017

Its all about money over game quality. The past six months have brought about alot of changes, but not to the actual game and more towards revenue income, its same with the new player focused buffs and events. getting players to near end game content as fast as possible is a common F2P tactic these days, they know statistically new players who are nearly up to the level of 'old' players are more likely to spend cash.

'old' Players have all there DLC's , have all there mounts and have plenty in game gold to buy just about everything they need, or they know how to get it in game, new players don't have many of these, but they know they need them if they want to continue.......so the only way .or easy way is to spend cash, this push to strategise content more towards this part of the player base as been quite obvious since they hired their new Marketing director, seen exactly the very same things happen in other games employed the very same person, they have been hired to turn everything into revenue income that's the direction the game is heading,

OK I know the game requires income to survive and continue and I'm fine with that, but it is how it is done that makes the difference, the game needs to progress and keep players interest too, which it is not doing, we've had no 'real' new content, since Orsinium and even then it had to be paid for, but that was fine there was and still is for many so much to do their unlike DB and TG which can be fully completed in a couple of days and there is no reason at all to ever return.

New patch does not bring anything really to game game, re game play or group content which is what a MMORPG is supposed to be about, its just yet another patch with more fluff and most of that is in the cash shop, That's NOT game development..............its just more c**p to eventually get bored of.

New patch is very disappointing to say the least, it contains nothing game play wise to actually do, nothing has been fixed, all we have is more fluff to spend either gold or Crowns on and that's what its all about its a gold sink, they are trying to reduce the stock piles of gold 'old' players have which will lead them to eventually buy Crowns, its business , its all about making money while investing into it as little work as possible.

BlazingDynamo · January 2017

Who said craglorn sucked? And why did they feel the need to change it to a solo zone? That was by far the beefiest content release to date. We need another one of those and I would gladly wait 9 months in between.

I'm afraid zos already killed their own success. And now as they dig the grave that ESO will soon lay in they are trying to milk every last penny from us via crown store...

White wabbit · January 2017

Yep was going to say the reason it looks bust is that they've merged the factions together I would say there is a drop in players I only need to look at the guilds I'm in to see that

UrbanMonk · January 2017

When was the last time they did ESO Live? Not saying that it was the best thing they did when it comes to tell people about ESO future, but it gave an idea. and @Flaminir , Neither my point is that game is dying. with 1T a lot of new blood came into game and we still have some hope left...

The point is

elvenmad wrote: »

The past six months have brought about alot of changes, but not to the actual game and more towards revenue income,

New patch is very disappointing to say the least, it contains nothing game play wise to actually do, nothing has been fixed, all we have is more fluff to spend either gold or Crowns on and that's what its all about its a gold sink, they are trying to reduce the stock piles of gold 'old' players have which will lead them to eventually buy Crowns, its business , its all about making money while investing into it as little work as possible.

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and because of so many reason that i can not even imagine to put them here. Everyone including me here does take a break and we do come back to check up every time a DLC is thr. But continuously 3 DLC for nothing? tht's a bit too much...