Agressive Warhorn additive bonus. Can someone explain ?

Juhasow · January 2017

So in patch notes we have this

Major Force: This buff category’s Critical Damage bonus is now an additive bonus instead of a multiplicative one (consistent with all other Critical Damage bonuses), but its value has been reduced to a 15% Critical Damage bonus to compensate from 30%. Total Critical Damage bonus from this buff remains unchanged.

Can anyone explain excatly how this changes current multiplications of critical dmg bonuses ? I am talking here about example of calculations which will show how to add this 15% bonus to equation.

Juhasow · January 2017

Edited

SublimeSparo · January 2017

Base Damage = 1.0
Base critical hit damage (chd) modifier is 0.5
Total Base chd is 1.5
Major force used to be x30%
0.5*30%= 0.15
1.5+0.15=1.65
New major force adds 0.15
1.5+0.15= 1.65

But in reality this is some major ***
Nb's and templar have base chd of 1.6. 1.0+(0.6*30%) =/= 1.5+0.15
Minor force is .12 (possibly .10 in new patch iirc)
People run cp in elfborn/precise strikes
Shadow mundus is 18%? ish

chd for templar/nb running minor force, shadow, 10% cp in elfborn/precise strikes
1.5+0.1+0.12+0.18+.10= 2.0
1.0+(1.0*30%)=2.3 > 2.0+0.15 = 2.15
2.3 > 2.15
So for an average trialist the Major force buff is around 50% less effective

Edit the maths is numerically wrong but the jist is the same
Edit 2 @Asayre help! (If you still play this game)
Edit3 fixed the maths

Juhasow · January 2017

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Base critical hit damage (chd) is 1.5
Major force used to x 30%
1.5*30%= 1.65
New major for force adds .15
1.5+.15= 1.65

But in reality this is some major ***
Nb's and templar have base chd of 1.6
Minor force is .12 (possibly .10 in new patch iirc)
People run cp in elfborn/precise strikes
Shadow mundus is 18%? ish

chd for templar/nb running minor force, shadow, 10% cp in elfborn/precise strikes
1.6+.12+.18+.10= 2.0
2.0*30% > 2.0+0.15

Edit the maths is numerically wrong but the jist is the same

Holly crap that is the answer I was most affaraid of. If that's true critical dmg on trials falls down and TBS becomes much less usefull.

SublimeSparo · January 2017

Juhasow wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Base critical hit damage (chd) is 1.5
Major force used to x 30%
1.5*30%= 1.65
New major for force adds .15
1.5+.15= 1.65

But in reality this is some major ***
Nb's and templar have base chd of 1.6
Minor force is .12 (possibly .10 in new patch iirc)
People run cp in elfborn/precise strikes
Shadow mundus is 18%? ish

chd for templar/nb running minor force, shadow, 10% cp in elfborn/precise strikes
1.6+.12+.18+.10= 2.0
2.0*30% > 2.0+0.15

Edit the maths is numerically wrong but the jist is the same

Holly crap that is the answer I was most affaraid of. If that's true critical dmg on trials falls down and TBS becomes much less usefull.

I fixed the maths above
Yea it sucks, the more extra chd modifiers you use ie minor force, cp in precise/elfborn, nb/templar passive, sets like archers mind, the more you lose from the changes

SublimeSparo · January 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
Major Force: This buff category’s Critical Damage bonus is now an additive bonus instead of a multiplicative one (consistent with all other Critical Damage bonuses), but its value has been reduced to a 15% Critical Damage bonus to compensate from 30%. Total Critical Damage bonus from this buff remains unchanged.

This is not entirely true, (it is only for one very specific situation)