Feedback: 24 player cap for housing is far too small

Krainor1974 · January 2017

They can easily make a housing start at one size and than allow to be upgraded with crowns just like buying bag and bank space. A manor can start at 24 and than be upgraded maybe like:
24>50>75>100.
This would allow players to upgrade to a cap that fits there needs and Zos will profit from crown sales making it a win win situation.

gothickaiserub17_ESO · January 2017

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Buy one of the crown store houses.

No seriously, it seems like ZoS made the update for only those two houses. They're probably 3x the size of the manors that cost 3m and you can tell thats where a ton of work went into. They make the manors look like classic houses.

I actually think the island is hideous, which I'm happy about, cause now I have no urge to purchase it. The cave is okay-ish. Sure they have more space, but good luck with filling that! They still hold the same number of total items.

MornaBaine · January 2017

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Buy one of the crown store houses.

No seriously, it seems like ZoS made the update for only those two houses. They're probably 3x the size of the manors that cost 3m and you can tell thats where a ton of work went into. They make the manors look like classic houses.

They are neat but with only 24 players in them will seem empty. I really wish they had bothered to make some full on castles on this scale.

bosmern_ESO · January 2017

gothickaiserub17_ESO wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Buy one of the crown store houses.

No seriously, it seems like ZoS made the update for only those two houses. They're probably 3x the size of the manors that cost 3m and you can tell thats where a ton of work went into. They make the manors look like classic houses.

I actually think the island is hideous, which I'm happy about, cause now I have no urge to purchase it. The cave is okay-ish. Sure they have more space, but good luck with filling that! They still hold the same number of total items.

The Crownstore homes have 100 more than the manors.

idk · January 2017

@belatrix35b16_ESO

What size home are you speaking of? I expect the number of people allowed inside depends on your he size or the home. Would be logical.

It would make sense a major would hold up to 100. Large home calling out around 50 and each size smaller even less.

Krainor1974 · January 2017

Seemed to me laziness was a factor such as the Glen castle being exactly Evermore castle except the escape hatch that's dumps you in ocean, lol.

idk · January 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

bellatrixed wrote: »

The 24 cap is too small to even fit all the members of the guild in the house at the same time, and we're on the smaller side of guilds!

Same here, my main guild is pooling money to buy one of the castles ...

24 people seems a wee bit on the small end of things.

@SirAndy

I would suggest to any player to not contribute so one player can own a major.
It's not a guild home. He/she quite game or guild and the home cannot be transfered.

Geekgirl · January 2017

I'm popping in to add my voice for a larger player cap in player housing.

That said, I am willing to be patient for this to happen. I am assuming that character housing is an initial test on resources and that the larger homes will have the caps raised right around the time guild houses are offered (also with MUCH larger caps, and priced accordingly).

SirAndy · January 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Same here, my main guild is pooling money to buy one of the castles ...
24 people seems a wee bit on the small end of things.

@SirAndy
I would suggest to any player to not contribute so one player can own a major.
It's not a guild home. He/she quite game or guild and the home cannot be transfered.

I'm the GM and the guild has existed since before PC launch. I'm not going anywhere.

Plus, all the officers will have as much privileges as ZOS allows, so in case i get hit by a bus, they can carry on.

driosketch · January 2017

Someone posted on reddit that all the homes have the same 24 player cap. Can anyone confirm?

Krainor1974 · January 2017

driosketch wrote: »

Someone posted on reddit that all the homes have the same 24 player cap. Can anyone confirm?

No, caps depend on size of house but so far 24 is the most.

driosketch · January 2017

Krainor1974 wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

Someone posted on reddit that all the homes have the same 24 player cap. Can anyone confirm?

No, caps depend on size of house but so far 24 is the most.

What is the cap then for the other sizes? @Krainor1974

Ghettokid · January 2017

I want 100 people in my Rosy lion inn

Krainor1974 · January 2017

With porting between houses the only idea I can think of right now is have multiple houses being used at same time for members. You can make each house a separate wing of a larger house.
Aside from that not much we can do right now but hope they come to there senses.

The_Undefined · January 2017

I agree with this. Personally, I'm not even looking at the large manors b/c there's no point for me and the few people I play with. However, I did peek into the crown store houses and instantly thought GUILD! I could see players just hanging out in those areas before raid, after raid, and gathering for all their needs (repair gear, selling, cooking food, making potions, etc). However, the 24 people limit is ridiculously small considering guilds can have upto 500 people.

These houses need to be able to house as many people as there can be in a guild, otherwise, what's the point of these giant homes?

Libonotus · January 2017

Why are you all shocked at ZOS? After the let down that was "Shadows of the hist" i'm not optimistic about this update. Free or not.

Celas_Dranacea · January 2017

Can an entire guild be granted permissions for the largest house, but then only 24 be allowed in at a time?

SirAndy · January 2017

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Can an entire guild be granted permissions for the largest house, but then only 24 be allowed in at a time?

That is my understanding but i haven't tested it yet (Damn real life work and stuff) ...

CrazySonoran · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for your feedback, all. The limit to the number of players in each home is indeed due to performance reasons.

There are way more than 24 in most busy banks and after the initial loading they are fine....

Celas_Dranacea · January 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Can an entire guild be granted permissions for the largest house, but then only 24 be allowed in at a time?

That is my understanding but i haven't tested it yet (Damn real life work and stuff) ...

Thanks - if that's the case then for my purposes the limit is sort of OK, though 36 would be way better

disintegr8 · January 2017

I'm a sad loner and would not know where to find 24 friends to even bring into my home.

driosketch · January 2017

So anyone with 24 friends willing to check the cap on the different house sizes?

NightbladeMechanics · January 2017

Yea my guild has 40 people, about 30 of whom are active... I don't want to have a limitation on them.

Enodoc · January 2017

driosketch wrote: »

So anyone with 24 friends willing to check the cap on the different house sizes?

I'm sure we could set up a guild to do this. It must be possible to get 24 people on PTS at the same time

It would be much easier though if @ZOS_GinaBruno would just pop back and tell us the other caps

newtinmpls · January 2017

I would like to see a "guildhall" option that would simply allow "anyone/ any number" from the guild(s) that were able to access the hall.

ElfFromSpace · January 2017

I host parties in my IRL house with up to 40 people with no performance issues and my home is much smaller than these manors. I, too, really hope for an increase as soon as it can be arranged! My guild events often draw more than that number, it would not be fun being the player(s) left out.

Tonturri · January 2017

It's not like RPers are going to go into houses for the one purpose of spamming as many aoes as they possibly can. Unless having more than 24 people in a home would actually crash something somewhere (doubtful but possible?), I don't think anyone would mind a bit of lag or needing to mess with settings a little bit in order to attend large gatherings.

bellatrixed · January 2017

Tonturri wrote: »

It's not like RPers are going to go into houses for the one purpose of spamming as many aoes as they possibly can. Unless having more than 24 people in a home would actually crash something somewhere (doubtful but possible?), I don't think anyone would mind a bit of lag or needing to mess with settings a little bit in order to attend large gatherings.

Pretty much! It's strange to run through, say, Rawl'kha and see literally hundreds of players running about spamming and dueling with no issues... or the huge trains that run from dolmen to dolmen during double XP event... but then be told it's a performance issue to have more than a handful of people inside a house.

SirCritical · January 2017

Krainor1974 wrote: »

They can easily make a housing start at one size and than allow to be upgraded with crowns just like buying bag and bank space. A manor can start at 24 and than be upgraded maybe like:
24>50>75>100.
This would allow players to upgrade to a cap that fits there needs and Zos will profit from crown sales making it a win win situation.

And please make guild quests available for these upgrades, with the another suggestion above, about setting a house as "guild-hall", with achievements, available to earn by all members of the guild.

cyberjanet · January 2017

Guild Wars Original had Guild Halls that all members could access. And they were instanced. However, the guilds were limited to 100 members, and members of your alliance (10 guilds at most) could access all the guild halls in the alliance. I've never been in a situation where all the allies had 100 members and everyone tried to meet in one guild hall for something.

But it does make a cap of 24 on a home destined for use by the guild members seem ... small.