I think it over performs in respect to stamina and the change to blackrose will help. Compared to magicka I think light armor just under performs.
I think it over performs in respect to stamina and the change to blackrose will help. Compared to magicka I think light armor just under performs.
Black Rose isn't even that great, there are far better options. It is just meta.
Heavy armor generally used atm on anything but a shieldstacking magsorc or stamblade, with some exceptions.
There are two options:
- nerf heavy armour
- buff MA and LA
I'd definitely prefer the latter.
Funny, over the last few days I've earned over 500k ap in Azura's . People wearing heavy armor don't seem to slow me down much.
Why so many tears over heavy armor? It's what you wear if you favor lots of resist.
- nerf heavy armour
- buff MA and LA
I'd definitely prefer the latter.
Funny, over the last few days I've earned over 500k ap in Azura's . People wearing heavy armor don't seem to slow me down much.
Why so many tears over heavy armor? It's what you wear if you favor lots of resist.
Funny, over the last few days I've earned over 500k ap in Azura's . People wearing heavy armor don't seem to slow me down much.
Why so many tears over heavy armor? It's what you wear if you favor lots of resist.
Umm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
We can't wait another 3-5 months.
Umm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
leepalmer95 wrote: »Umm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
Say that to the 600 regen tanks with more damage than medium builds and better overall sustain.
Umm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
@Xsorus
Do you even play PVP regularly? I am not talking about PVE here. You don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
The fact is, that heavy armor is outperforming LA and MA in PVP. You have all the benefits of heavy armor without losing almost any damage. You can still dish out huge amounts of damage.
Why do you think that everybody (at least the people that know what they are talking about and want to be competitive) but Nightlblades (cloak) and magsorcs (shieldstacking) are wearing heavy armor? Oh ye, many nightlbades and sorcs already switched to heavy because it is so OP.
It is utterly broken at the moment.
Restricting the use of, say, Shuffle to medium armour wearers would make some coherence (as it is with other skills in the game).
Otherwise I think Xsorus's comment is fine. From yet another perspective, TES series used to be not always well balanced in armour sense, with heavy often being a better choice. I do not see why some of this flavour cannot belong to TESO, with heavy being the preferred choice, and other armours being niché-sorts of things.
I sadly find that most of the moaning crowd have quite sketchy understanding of the balancing questions (that is not to say there is no decently-outlined critique). The whole uproar about the destro-ult and the consequences (even after the buff most considered it useless, and what is now in Cyro?) shows a lot in this regard. Finally, even if we look at the proposed RD-nerf as a result of similar threads, what did that solve?
leepalmer95 wrote: »Umm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
Say that to the 600 regen tanks with more damage than medium builds and better overall sustain.
This is utterly false.Umm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
@Xsorus
Do you even play PVP regularly? I am not talking about PVE here. You don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
The fact is, that heavy armor is outperforming LA and MA in PVP. You have all the benefits of heavy armor without losing almost any damage. You can still dish out huge amounts of damage.
Why do you think that everybody (at least the people that know what they are talking about and want to be competitive) but Nightlblades (cloak) and magsorcs (shieldstacking) are wearing heavy armor? Oh ye, many nightlbades and sorcs already switched to heavy because it is so OP.
It is utterly broken at the moment.
Wrong.
The only thing that made heavy so strong was the ability to use proc sets like Viper, Velidreth, Selene's, and Tremor, etc. Of course every single one of these builds used one of 3 (mainly) sets, Black Rose, Fury, and or Reactive (and sometimes Alch). Now that these sets cannot crit anymore it's hardly a problem.
With the exception of certain tryhard streamers who whined everytime they died in a 1vX and saw a 3k viper in their death recount, the vast majority of complaints is largely hyperbole and monkey see monkey do parroting. Due to the laziness and overall inept minds who can't think for themselves ("Hey *insert twitch allstar here* I see you don't play x class, can you tell me what build to run on x class anyway (because I can't be bothered to figure things out for myself) ad nauseum?") you have narrow-minded builds and self sabotaged pigeonholing with everyone (who is trapped in this cycle) repeating the same tiresome rhetoric.
This type of behavior is nothing new and has been going through a vicious cycle of whining about stuff they don't understand since the game released.
Obviously another non-pvper commenting... How would you even start comparing singleplayer titles with PVP (multiplayer)? Does not make a lot of sense.
We all know perfect balance is not possible, but stating that two of the three armor types should be reserved for niche builds is horrifically stupid in a MMO.
At least you can try to balance things out. Oh and yea, RD def. needed a nerf.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and heavy armor builds usually have a low crit chance, so the change to proc sets won't matter (and everybody in his right mind is wearing impen). You'll see. Nothing will change.
Problem is in redguard % based passive, dark deal and couple of proc sets, is it actually armor issue? Nope, but I would prefer wrath passive or reverted back to block cost or converted to CCbreak cost reductionUmm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
@Xsorus
Do you even play PVP regularly? I am not talking about PVE here. You don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
The fact is, that heavy armor is outperforming LA and MA in PVP. You have all the benefits of heavy armor without losing almost any damage. You can still dish out huge amounts of damage.
Why do you think that everybody (at least the people that know what they are talking about and want to be competitive) but Nightlblades (cloak) and magsorcs (shieldstacking) are wearing heavy armor? Oh ye, many nightlbades and sorcs already switched to heavy because it is so OP.
It is utterly broken at the moment.
Sugaroverdose wrote: »Problem is in redguard % based passive, dark deal and couple of proc sets, is it actually armor issue? Nope, but I would prefer wrath passive or reverted back to block cost or converted to CCbreak cost reductionUmm again, what exactly is the problem with Heavy Armor?
Medium Armor is used by pretty much all Gankers, and if you're doing Stamina DPS in PVE guess what you're wearing..Not heavy armor.
Light Armor is used by Magicka NBs/Sorcs while Heavy gets used by Templars/DK's usually..you know the classes that generally have to be up close and personal and even then you still have Medium Armor using Temps/Dk's
So yes there is some tanky ass toons out there..But that is miles better then there being nothing but Medium Armor Gankers and Light armor Magicka NB/Sorcs ....
The armor lines are balanced pretty good right now.
@Xsorus
Do you even play PVP regularly? I am not talking about PVE here. You don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
The fact is, that heavy armor is outperforming LA and MA in PVP. You have all the benefits of heavy armor without losing almost any damage. You can still dish out huge amounts of damage.
Why do you think that everybody (at least the people that know what they are talking about and want to be competitive) but Nightlblades (cloak) and magsorcs (shieldstacking) are wearing heavy armor? Oh ye, many nightlbades and sorcs already switched to heavy because it is so OP.
It is utterly broken at the moment.