TrueFlame: Exceptionally Smug AD Win

Anazasi · December 2016

Crown wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

So here, since I am entitled to it, I shall brag: "OMG look at how bad EP players are. They can't even win a campaign. The faction is so sad they can only meta blob around the map in hopes of getting AP. Man I hope their mommy doesn't find out what a waste of her money this has been for them. DC you need to stop holding hands with EP your property values will drop if you let the rift raft in. They are not your friends, It's a trap they only want your goodies." Let the quoting hate begin because we all know the truth hurts.

@Anazasi I haven't laughed so hard since you explained to Sarenvog how babies are made..

LOL.... He didn't believe me either when i told him he had to stick it in and make it pop.

CyrusArya · December 2016

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

Celas_Dranacea · December 2016

@CyrusArya wow you've opened my eyes to everything - you are so smart!!!

Sure, each of the factions gained first place repeatedly and were pushed to last place repeatedly, but that was just a freak coincidence because AD in fact was the only faction with large coordinated groups pushing the map.

Obvious now that EP/DC were not trying to win the campaign and they never zerged the map and they certainly never tried to flip resource flags at score evaluation.

I have no idea where EP and DC were the entire campaign - they certainly never zerged down AD keeps ... maybe they were very honorably being solo stamsorcs or heavy armor templars, running circles around trees and rocks, evenly spaced out across Cyrodil waiting for those elite 1vX fights cause I never once saw them. Who knows???? Biggest mystery of the century.

.........

I'm being sarcastic - unlike some people I think there's a lot of reason to admire the players and teams of each of the three factions.

Yeah, *** talk is a fun part of any game but you gotta do it with some measure of class and respect for other players. I don't get it when people are straight up being disrespectful to players in other factions after an incredible hard fought campaign with all three factions on relatively equal footing.

It's totally, totally fine if you are a person who does not care about fighting for the map or fighting with your faction to a win a campaign. I really don't give a *** and it's none of my *** business.

Personally I found this campaign to be way more interesting, with all three sides pushing each other relatively equitably, the campaign score incredibly close - an important role to play for every group and solo player.

We can easily see how we like it when nobody's trying to fight for the campaign. Maybe we can just let whichever faction is in first place gain a bigger and bigger lead while the weakest faction gets double teamed to the point of giving up entirely. In that regard this new campaign is off to a great start.

AD/DC/EP: Don't let the haters infect you with their STD's - we all did a great job and I'm proud of the entire population of Trueflame for playing smart and making it fun for everyone.

Manoekin · December 2016

CyrusArya wrote: »

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

What's funny is I've played with or next to all but one or two of those players you mentioned, yet I'm also a zergling map player. No one on AD actually enjoyed playing the map. We were all pretty miserable the final week and especially the last day. Sometimes you just do things because you want to troll people or prove a point.

pcar944 · December 2016

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

God_flakes · December 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

pcar944 · December 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

there's almost hardly any fighting between AD/DC - and they are both at EP doors - when I woke up DC had the map and EP scroll and it hasn't changed for hours - and AD and DC both keep coming to EP doors and not fighting each other for Ash/Roe (which have been blue most of the day)

its pretty much the same as last 2 days of the last campaign, except now everyone is on their DC toon instead of AD - check the score and see where the guilds are

its fine, EP will hold its own

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

God_flakes · December 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

there's almost hardly any fighting between AD/DC - and they are both at EP doors - when I woke up DC had the map and EP scroll and it hasn't changed for hours - and AD and DC both keep coming to EP doors and not fighting each other for Ash/Roe (which have been blue most of the day)

its pretty much the same as last 2 days of the last campaign, except now everyone is on their DC toon instead of AD - check the score and see where the guilds are

its fine, EP will hold its own

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

Siiiiigh. Can't say I didn't warn ep. I said Ad would use them to help secure a win and then turn on them. Ep ended up in third place because all they did all last campaign was act as ad's lapdogs and constantly double team dc.

Minnesinger · December 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

there's almost hardly any fighting between AD/DC - and they are both at EP doors - when I woke up DC had the map and EP scroll and it hasn't changed for hours - and AD and DC both keep coming to EP doors and not fighting each other for Ash/Roe (which have been blue most of the day)

its pretty much the same as last 2 days of the last campaign, except now everyone is on their DC toon instead of AD - check the score and see where the guilds are

its fine, EP will hold its own

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

Siiiiigh. Can't say I didn't warn ep. I said Ad would use them to help secure a win and then turn on them. Ep ended up in third place because all they did all last campaign was act as ad's lapdogs and constantly double team dc.

Nothing to do with the fact that it is Dc pushing EP to their gates

Maybe DC is after revenge. After all, the plan in the last campaign was to prevent the boring DC from winning the 4th campaign.

Crown · December 2016

CyrusArya wrote: »

as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar

@CyrusArya When leading groups I run Reactive / Transmute / Bloodspawn, when healing I run heavy Kagrenac / Transmute / Troll King, and when DPS I run Spinner / RattleCage or Kagrenac / Valkyn. If you're going to make fun of someone, get their gear right! The last time I ran Malubeth was in 1.6 or thereabouts.

CyrusArya wrote: »

whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you

I whisper people when they fail to gank me. Again if you're going to make fun of someone, get their actions right!

Minalan · December 2016

Crown wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Every EP: Oh, look DC took Chal again. We need to go... BRIDGE! BRIDGE!!

It's similar on AD.. How many time have we seen someone yelling in zone "Get the <swear word> off the bridge and....."

I still think that we should be able to siege the bridge down. We asked in one of the "chat with ZOS" meetings if that were possible, and I believe it was @ZOS_BrianWheeler who responded that they wouldn't do it due to people being able to abuse AP gains on repairs.

It was so bad last night, I had to go to the bridge on my DC toon just to find someone to fight...

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

My performance was the worst this campaign . Changing entire builds 6 times and blowing half a million in gold on worthless setups was so frustrating . I still have a lot of work to do and I am so tired from grinding . I just threw my arms in the air and fought anyways . Very close campaign and I am so proud of AD and how hard they are fighting .

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

there's almost hardly any fighting between AD/DC - and they are both at EP doors - when I woke up DC had the map and EP scroll and it hasn't changed for hours - and AD and DC both keep coming to EP doors and not fighting each other for Ash/Roe (which have been blue most of the day)

its pretty much the same as last 2 days of the last campaign, except now everyone is on their DC toon instead of AD - check the score and see where the guilds are

its fine, EP will hold its own

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

This happened last campaign to DC. It was so bad we had mixed yellow and red groups taking blue resources together. And they weren't fighting eachother.

That's all right though. I think I farmed more D-tick AP at glade that night than any other since 1.6.

So.. any chance you'll both come back and do it again?

Crown · December 2016

Minalan wrote: »

So.. any chance you'll both come back and do it again?

I'm not going to play the map like that again any time soon. It was so incredibly boring trying to manage AD small groups to break off every hour and prep for resources with a couple minutes to spare, trying to convince people that we can lose a keep and take 10 resources and come out ahead on points. There are a lot of people who don't care about the map and campaign (usually including me), though we made a commitment tot he campaign win, so did our best. I have much more fun playing with a few friends for a few hours doing whatever it is that entertains us most..

Manoekin · December 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

Team Purple?

Kilandros · December 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

What's funny is I've played with or next to all but one or two of those players you mentioned, yet I'm also a zergling map player. No one on AD actually enjoyed playing the map. We were all pretty miserable the final week and especially the last day. Sometimes you just do things because you want to troll people or prove a point.

And what exactly is that point? That AD can faction stack better than EP can? Also, I hope you can appreciate the irony of the claim that you're a zergling map player out to troll people: You've spent the last month lamenting the fact that your small-scale groups are constantly getting zerged (never mind that I've only ever seen you in the middle of the Taran + Maubee + Crown zerg) and yet here you are.

So I'll ask again - what exactly is the point you were trying to prove?

pcar944 · December 2016

Minalan wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Every EP: Oh, look DC took Chal again. We need to go... BRIDGE! BRIDGE!!

It's similar on AD.. How many time have we seen someone yelling in zone "Get the <swear word> off the bridge and....."

I still think that we should be able to siege the bridge down. We asked in one of the "chat with ZOS" meetings if that were possible, and I believe it was @ZOS_BrianWheeler who responded that they wouldn't do it due to people being able to abuse AP gains on repairs.

It was so bad last night, I had to go to the bridge on my DC toon just to find someone to fight...

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

My performance was the worst this campaign . Changing entire builds 6 times and blowing half a million in gold on worthless setups was so frustrating . I still have a lot of work to do and I am so tired from grinding . I just threw my arms in the air and fought anyways . Very close campaign and I am so proud of AD and how hard they are fighting .

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

there's almost hardly any fighting between AD/DC - and they are both at EP doors - when I woke up DC had the map and EP scroll and it hasn't changed for hours - and AD and DC both keep coming to EP doors and not fighting each other for Ash/Roe (which have been blue most of the day)

its pretty much the same as last 2 days of the last campaign, except now everyone is on their DC toon instead of AD - check the score and see where the guilds are

its fine, EP will hold its own

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

This happened last campaign to DC. It was so bad we had mixed yellow and red groups taking blue resources together. And they weren't fighting eachother.

That's all right though. I think I farmed more D-tick AP at glade that night than any other since 1.6.

So.. any chance you'll both come back and do it again?

all I'm doing now! lots of tasty D ticks

its fine, it is what it is, don't take what I say as a sign of weakness or saltiness, not one bit

there's a reason why I switched to EP - because DC wasn't getting any good fights anymore - and that's fine

Manoekin · December 2016

Kilandros wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

What's funny is I've played with or next to all but one or two of those players you mentioned, yet I'm also a zergling map player. No one on AD actually enjoyed playing the map. We were all pretty miserable the final week and especially the last day. Sometimes you just do things because you want to troll people or prove a point.

And what exactly is that point? That AD can faction stack better than EP can? Also, I hope you can appreciate the irony of the claim that you're a zergling map player out to troll people: You've spent the last month lamenting the fact that your small-scale groups are constantly getting zerged (never mind that I've only ever seen you in the middle of the Taran + Maubee + Crown zerg) and yet here you are.

So I'll ask again - what exactly is the point you were trying to prove?

Yes. We had to prove to everyone that we could coordinate 5 raids better and more efficiently than PM. Our old tried and true strategy of using the blue scroll beam memento was taken away from us, so it was hard for 5 raids to follow one person. Fortunately with the large amount of brainpower present we were able to come up with some new (and classified) strategies to resolve this problem.

Also, I find it hard to believe you would say things like that when your 16man group runs into my 6man and follow us around for 5+ minutes dropping multiple negates and destro ults when we're not even trying to fight.

Take a 5man to a resource and have fun fighting slightly outnumbered only to have all of PM show up - multiple times - and not get at least a little salty. When you're just a few friends not even in meta builds.

Celas_Dranacea · December 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Every EP: Oh, look DC took Chal again. We need to go... BRIDGE! BRIDGE!!

It's similar on AD.. How many time have we seen someone yelling in zone "Get the <swear word> off the bridge and....."

I still think that we should be able to siege the bridge down. We asked in one of the "chat with ZOS" meetings if that were possible, and I believe it was @ZOS_BrianWheeler who responded that they wouldn't do it due to people being able to abuse AP gains on repairs.

It was so bad last night, I had to go to the bridge on my DC toon just to find someone to fight...

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

My performance was the worst this campaign . Changing entire builds 6 times and blowing half a million in gold on worthless setups was so frustrating . I still have a lot of work to do and I am so tired from grinding . I just threw my arms in the air and fought anyways . Very close campaign and I am so proud of AD and how hard they are fighting .

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

there's almost hardly any fighting between AD/DC - and they are both at EP doors - when I woke up DC had the map and EP scroll and it hasn't changed for hours - and AD and DC both keep coming to EP doors and not fighting each other for Ash/Roe (which have been blue most of the day)

its pretty much the same as last 2 days of the last campaign, except now everyone is on their DC toon instead of AD - check the score and see where the guilds are

its fine, EP will hold its own

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

This happened last campaign to DC. It was so bad we had mixed yellow and red groups taking blue resources together. And they weren't fighting eachother.

That's all right though. I think I farmed more D-tick AP at glade that night than any other since 1.6.

So.. any chance you'll both come back and do it again?

all I'm doing now! lots of tasty D ticks

its fine, it is what it is, don't take what I say as a sign of weakness or saltiness, not one bit

there's a reason why I switched to EP - because DC wasn't getting any good fights anymore - and that's fine

Yeah I'm totally fine with whatever happens this campaign - it is exhausting playing the map all the time and I got that out of me for a long while. The reason I cared so much about winning last campaign is that it was worth winning. For now I'm just going to try and hold as many AD home keeps as we can when I'm playing, farm AP where I can etc. and have a good time without stressing.

I probably came off a bit strongly earlier but as a baseline to maintain a relatively competitive campaign, I think people and groups should at least kind of care. For example, we should all advocate for and be ok with pushing whichever faction has a lead over the others. We did this last campaign and it made the whole thing quite exciting. I think Cyrodil works best for everyone when we do that.

montiferus · December 2016

Crown

A while back you were going to release video of you getting high AP/hr ticks by farming resources. To my knowledge this video was never released. I for one would like to see this video. Last I heard you were going to edit it.

Any ETA?

Kilandros · December 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

What's funny is I've played with or next to all but one or two of those players you mentioned, yet I'm also a zergling map player. No one on AD actually enjoyed playing the map. We were all pretty miserable the final week and especially the last day. Sometimes you just do things because you want to troll people or prove a point.

And what exactly is that point? That AD can faction stack better than EP can? Also, I hope you can appreciate the irony of the claim that you're a zergling map player out to troll people: You've spent the last month lamenting the fact that your small-scale groups are constantly getting zerged (never mind that I've only ever seen you in the middle of the Taran + Maubee + Crown zerg) and yet here you are.

So I'll ask again - what exactly is the point you were trying to prove?

Yes. We had to prove to everyone that we could coordinate 5 raids better and more efficiently than PM. Our old tried and true strategy of using the blue scroll beam memento was taken away from us, so it was hard for 5 raids to follow one person. Fortunately with the large amount of brainpower present we were able to come up with some new (and classified) strategies to resolve this problem.

Also, I find it hard to believe you would say things like that when your 16man group runs into my 6man and follow us around for 5+ minutes dropping multiple negates and destro ults when we're not even trying to fight.

Take a 5man to a resource and have fun fighting slightly outnumbered only to have all of PM show up - multiple times - and not get at least a little salty. When you're just a few friends not even in meta builds.

And that's fine. I'll happily congratulate you guys on coordinating the faction to win the campaign. You did and it paid off. But let's take it easy on taking pleasure in the absurd faction stacking that has been taking place because you and I both know how frustrating that can be. I know EP does it and I hate it.

And dude, if we did have 16 we would not chase your 6 man for 5 minutes. We have too much respect for you guys. Obviously if Taran or whoever is there Ults are gonna go off.

Crown · December 2016

montiferus wrote: »

Crown, A while back you were going to release video of you getting high AP/hr ticks by farming resources. To my knowledge this video was never released. I for one would like to see this video. Last I heard you were going to edit it. Any ETA?

@montiferus I was never farming resources.. I always found that farming resources solo/due was a sure-fire way to get zerged down and lose momentum. If you obsess about ticks, then you lose sight of the greater objective.

Regarding the vids, I put them up for people in Resilient (social guild for ex Moonlight / Misfitz / Victorem - and my personal guild bank) a while back. I chose not to make them public, as there were a lot of people acting like entitled 5 year olds demanding candy, and I did not want to help those who were unable to show respect and wouldn't appreciate the effort that went into creating AP farming strategies.

I've recently shown a few people (notably Aurora@persephonea, Drishtan@drishtan and about a dozen others) how to farm like that, and a few of my disciples have been emp in the past three months (including my new sorc). I'd be happy to show other people who ask politely in-game. Keep in mind that the more people (especially your opponents) who know and understand what you're doing, the less likely they are to fall for strategic ways to kill them. Making all of the strategies public negates their effectiveness, and who knows - one day I or someone I am friends with may want to farm 250k+ AP per hour again ;-)

EDIT: Apparently none of you have ever gone to see the web site linked in my signature.. There's a section on AP farming that gives away one of the strategies I used to use quite often.

Rohamad_Ali · December 2016

Minalan wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Every EP: Oh, look DC took Chal again. We need to go... BRIDGE! BRIDGE!!

It's similar on AD.. How many time have we seen someone yelling in zone "Get the <swear word> off the bridge and....."

I still think that we should be able to siege the bridge down. We asked in one of the "chat with ZOS" meetings if that were possible, and I believe it was @ZOS_BrianWheeler who responded that they wouldn't do it due to people being able to abuse AP gains on repairs.

It was so bad last night, I had to go to the bridge on my DC toon just to find someone to fight...

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

My performance was the worst this campaign . Changing entire builds 6 times and blowing half a million in gold on worthless setups was so frustrating . I still have a lot of work to do and I am so tired from grinding . I just threw my arms in the air and fought anyways . Very close campaign and I am so proud of AD and how hard they are fighting .

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

you won by 200 points

looking at the map now its already seen where all the guilds are this campaign

GG

What does it look like?

there's almost hardly any fighting between AD/DC - and they are both at EP doors - when I woke up DC had the map and EP scroll and it hasn't changed for hours - and AD and DC both keep coming to EP doors and not fighting each other for Ash/Roe (which have been blue most of the day)

its pretty much the same as last 2 days of the last campaign, except now everyone is on their DC toon instead of AD - check the score and see where the guilds are

its fine, EP will hold its own

but you don't get to talk *** and pat yourself on the back when you double team someone 24/7, I have a special word for this kind of people

This happened last campaign to DC. It was so bad we had mixed yellow and red groups taking blue resources together. And they weren't fighting eachother.

That's all right though. I think I farmed more D-tick AP at glade that night than any other since 1.6.

So.. any chance you'll both come back and do it again?

I will always give it my best every time and I won't be going back to my old faction . I gave DC two years and had a good go at experiencing that side . I plan to give the same amount of time on AD .

Manoekin · December 2016

Kilandros wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

What's funny is I've played with or next to all but one or two of those players you mentioned, yet I'm also a zergling map player. No one on AD actually enjoyed playing the map. We were all pretty miserable the final week and especially the last day. Sometimes you just do things because you want to troll people or prove a point.

And what exactly is that point? That AD can faction stack better than EP can? Also, I hope you can appreciate the irony of the claim that you're a zergling map player out to troll people: You've spent the last month lamenting the fact that your small-scale groups are constantly getting zerged (never mind that I've only ever seen you in the middle of the Taran + Maubee + Crown zerg) and yet here you are.

So I'll ask again - what exactly is the point you were trying to prove?

Yes. We had to prove to everyone that we could coordinate 5 raids better and more efficiently than PM. Our old tried and true strategy of using the blue scroll beam memento was taken away from us, so it was hard for 5 raids to follow one person. Fortunately with the large amount of brainpower present we were able to come up with some new (and classified) strategies to resolve this problem.

Also, I find it hard to believe you would say things like that when your 16man group runs into my 6man and follow us around for 5+ minutes dropping multiple negates and destro ults when we're not even trying to fight.

Take a 5man to a resource and have fun fighting slightly outnumbered only to have all of PM show up - multiple times - and not get at least a little salty. When you're just a few friends not even in meta builds.

And that's fine. I'll happily congratulate you guys on coordinating the faction to win the campaign. You did and it paid off. But let's take it easy on taking pleasure in the absurd faction stacking that has been taking place because you and I both know how frustrating that can be. I know EP does it and I hate it.

And dude, if we did have 16 we would not chase your 6 man for 5 minutes. We have too much respect for you guys. Obviously if Taran or whoever is there Ults are gonna go off.

I'm trolling. I barely played the last half of the campaign because it was so disgusting. The first week or two was great when everyone was trying to do things, but after that people cared too much about the campaign and their ego's to move away from their faction zerg.

No one was with us there. Maybe you weren't there idk, and I don't have time to sift through all my video to find that moment if I was even recording at the time. It was by alessia mine though.

pcar944 · December 2016

EP just got major payback

rightfully so after sitting at home keeps all day vs DC and AD

Ishammael · December 2016

Congrats on the win.

Wish there was some reason to actually care about winning.

montiferus · December 2016

What I would love to see is the best 12 man group from each faction fight it out in a "battleground". Winner gets a large AP bounty.

Anything else quite frankly is meaningless. Between lag, cheating, collusion, larger pop, night capping anybody winning anything in cyrodil has no validity.

Manoekin · December 2016

montiferus wrote: »

What I would love to see is the best 12 man group from each faction fight it out in a "battleground". Winner gets a large AP bounty.

Anything else quite frankly is meaningless. Between lag, cheating, collusion, larger pop, night capping anybody winning anything in cyrodil has no validity.

idk if anyone wants to organized 12v12 this patch/ Maybe if you ban destro ulti but then I don't know if you even kill anything if a group just specs tanks lol.

Anazasi · December 2016

Kilandros wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

What's funny is I've played with or next to all but one or two of those players you mentioned, yet I'm also a zergling map player. No one on AD actually enjoyed playing the map. We were all pretty miserable the final week and especially the last day. Sometimes you just do things because you want to troll people or prove a point.

And what exactly is that point? That AD can faction stack better than EP can? Also, I hope you can appreciate the irony of the claim that you're a zergling map player out to troll people: You've spent the last month lamenting the fact that your small-scale groups are constantly getting zerged (never mind that I've only ever seen you in the middle of the Taran + Maubee + Crown zerg) and yet here you are.

So I'll ask again - what exactly is the point you were trying to prove?

be careful when you use my name. i try very hard to accept my losses to you and your meta group. i can also without reservation say the last time i ran in a group with Mano was in alacrity. what you are trying to say can easily be said about you in the middle of pact militia or others.....

nml · December 2016

CyrusArya wrote: »

Winning a campaign means nothing when there is no real incentive to pursue a win. All it says is which faction can zerg the hardest, the most consistently, and with most passion. That makes it especially funny and fitting that the current generation of AD would celebrate a campaign win so zealously. I often wonder "what kind of scrub-minded players actually enjoy playing the map"...but then I look at the names posting in this thread. And it all makes sense. People like zerg "crown(s)" who whisper in frustration after failing to Xv1 you, saying "why would you run a heavy armor stamina sorc" and "your damage is too low" as he runs a reactive malubeth healplar. People like that are the face, leadership, and role models of AD today. And so its no surprise that this faction is good at playing the map, yet in such a sorry state in metrics that I personally consider hall marks of a skilled and respectable faction with skilled and respectable players. Pretty much all AD is good at at this point is moving around as one unit. Idk when it happened exactly, but sometime since Dark Brotherhood AD usurped the title of the zergbad faction from EP. Now all thats left to be found there is that and stealth gankers (who also mostly do so in zerg formation). And sifferPK, the one lonely ember keeping AD small scale and 1vX alive.

It just makes me sad because I played AD in the distant past and at that time the faction had some extremely skilled groups and players. Crews like Homunculus, GODOFDMG/weedwizardd, Docta Love, Nine, Chicken Dog, etc and the Lowpolicy, Aenlir, Mojican squad (probably the best small scale group to ever play eso). But those days are long gone, and now I can count on one hand the amount of players on AD that are good without the caveat of "in groups". Can't even count at all the times time I died to AD in cyrodiil and wasn't outnumbered or ganked on a mount, because I honestly can't recall that happening in the last several months.

At any rate, celebrate your meaningless victory and enjoy those marksman staves and transmuatation bows. I'll see you guys when battle grounds are released and there's actually meaningful victories to be celebrated. Hopefully by then some of the names I listed return or new faces step up to the mantle so AD can field something to compete with the EP and DC teams who I know can put up.

Otherwise you're gonna look back at posts like this and just feel silly.

If it were meaningless you wouldn't be so upset. This is a case of textbook psychological defense mechanisms on display for all to see and marvel at. Nice work trying hard to win the most competitive campaign in recent memory. Your team pulled every dirty trick in the book at all hours of the day and still got smacked down. Take it like a man instead of now implying that the whole thing is meaningless. If we're going down that road then this is a computer game and it is meaningless in its entirety, including your so-called elite PvP skills, which don't translate over to real life or your ability to provide for your family IRL.

3 wins AD, 3 wins DC, next one is winner take all, and we took it. Let's not even mention the scornworthy EP try-hards who "just can't seem to catch a break, man!". Gonna have to start taking screencaps of your faction stacks to put an end to this disinformation you're spreading about ad benefitting from one-sided battles.

There should definitely be more incentive for winning in terms of gold, AP, and items but that's a separate issue to take up with Zenimax. This was a test of willpower, coordination, and belief in something larger than any one person - AD won, you lost. Better to take it on the chin and shake hands than throw a tantrum like a jealous child and lose any respect you may have already garnered.

GLORY TO THE DOMINION, AND DEATH TO HER ENEMIES

ZOS_JohanaB · December 2016

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Ishammael · December 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

montiferus wrote: »

What I would love to see is the best 12 man group from each faction fight it out in a "battleground". Winner gets a large AP bounty.

Anything else quite frankly is meaningless. Between lag, cheating, collusion, larger pop, night capping anybody winning anything in cyrodil has no validity.

idk if anyone wants to organized 12v12 this patch/ Maybe if you ban destro ulti but then I don't know if you even kill anything if a group just specs tanks lol.

Very few guilds are even running anymore.