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TrueFlame: Exceptionally Smug AD Win
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
[Edit to remove bait and profanity]Edited by [Deleted User] on December 26, 2016 11:03PM0 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
Edited by [Deleted User] on December 26, 2016 11:04PMRetired.
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Maybe a lot of DC got ESO for Christmas. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points.
Armitas, I truly did feel bad for EP. I tried my best in zone-ask anyone. I lost my temper quite a few times. And despite my resolution to NOT drink...midway through the day I downed whiskey to try to cope with the idiocy I was seeing.
the four siege on Ash was me and like 3 other people. I also saw the new names in zone with lots of cp and no rank. I admit I eventually went to chalman to find fights...only because going to ash repeatedly resulted in 24 ad mowing down the one or two dc who even attempted to get a resource there.
Ps. I'd welcome coordination with Ep to keep Ad on their knees this campaign.
Edited by [Deleted User] on December 26, 2016 11:05PM0 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Armitas , @God_flakes It was the exact same in AD the day before, when EP was dominating the map. Some nobodies with Rank 2-10 started PuGs and was camping Nikel all the time, while EP wrecked our inner keeps. Even after calling out on zone, none of them moved and started trolling zone chat. They were pretty much channeling all randoms in the Nik-Ash area.Edited by susmitds on December 26, 2016 1:41PM2 -
Pathfinder✭✭✭DCs biggest issue is that a lot of people (including me) dont care about the score. Honestly, there is no reason to and if I can get a fight faster by going to Chal than going to Ash, well it's an easy choice. Congrats on ADs win, but I still got gold items to sell by getting in the top 2%, which I do by going to Chalman, not Ash. ZoS needs to fix their freakin map and their stupid AvAvA , so don't blame the players, blame ZoS. Chal = fun; Ash = PITA.Main
Malfahri del Sol Imperial Templar (stamplar *new respec) PC/NA/Trueflame2 -
nml✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
Factually inaccurate. Blue was terrorizing Brindle, Roebeck, and our senior keeps. No activity at Ash? yeah cause it was blue. DC on AD toons? JUST SAY "NO" TO SORE LOSER PROPAGANDA.-NML
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Armitas , @God_flakes It was the exact same in AD the day before, when EP was dominating the map. Some nobodies with Rank 2-10 started PuGs and was camping Nikel all the time, while EP wrecked our inner keeps. Even after calling out on zone, none of them moved and started trolling zone chat. They were pretty much channeling all randoms in the Nik-Ash area.
I believe you...and why I detest the concept of faction swapping. But hate the sin, love the sinner. I have many friends who swap.Pathfinder wrote: »DCs biggest issue is that a lot of people (including me) dont care about the score. Honestly, there is no reason to and if I can get a fight faster by going to Chal than going to Ash, well it's an easy choice. Congrats on ADs win, but I still got gold items to sell by getting in the top 2%, which I do by going to Chalman, not Ash. ZoS needs to fix their freakin map and their stupid AvAvA , so don't blame the players, blame ZoS. Chal = fun; Ash = PITA.
As someone who gets bored easily with people and things, I personally don't find enjoyment smashing against the same keep wall and the same opponents (who become worth NOTHING) for hours on end. I seek a challenge and different strategies other than merely earning ap or climbing the worthless leaderboard over and over again. But meh, to each his own.0 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
Factually inaccurate. Blue was terrorizing Brindle, Roebeck, and our senior keeps. No activity at Ash? yeah cause it was blue. DC on AD toons? JUST SAY "NO" TO SORE LOSER PROPAGANDA.
What campaign do you think you're in? Because it certainly isn't TF. Ash was yellow from the time I logged at noon est until 10pm est. it was never blue at any point. Dc never even attempted to go to brindle or roe for anything other than a resource grab and even then it was only a few dc at best.Edited by God_flakes on December 26, 2016 2:28PM1 -
Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.6 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.Retired.
Nord mDK1 -
Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.
Give me a campaign where resources are worth 0 points and I'd like to go there. I don't think it encourages small scale pvp. Yesterday was some of the worst PvP I've had because every 50 minutes I had to stop PvPing to go stealth pve cap a random resource. The resource only matters for 1 second out of every hour, at the eval point. It's the same old same old for a small group taking a resource... either no one cares because it's not eval time or you get zerged down. No small groups are fighting over these things.
This is a two sides to a coin issue, I don't see a middle ground without redesigning some things.
Either people care about resources because it counts for campaign score, but then they only care about it once every hour for a minuscule amount of time. OR it doesn't count for campaign score and no one cares. Cutting the transit lines is not effective and only a minor inconvenience. If you made it so losing all resources prevented ressing at the keep it would be interesting, but imo it would just give more reason for large groups to mow down whoever attempts to do so.3 -
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✭✭✭Was a fun campaign and competitive throughout the duration. A bit of a bummer it ended on Christmas so I had to miss the last day but it is what it is. Congrats to AD for the win - I know a lot of you guys focused objectives hard this campaign and it paid off.Invictus
Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
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pcar944✭✭✭✭btw Mano I had a nice ride next to you behind BRK yesterday lolOne Tamriel killed PVP
DC Magicka Orc Necromancer climbing those ranks ...1 -
pcar944✭✭✭✭yeah Taran just charges in , no *** given
crazyOne Tamriel killed PVP
DC Magicka Orc Necromancer climbing those ranks ...1 -
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✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.
Give me a campaign where resources are worth 0 points and I'd like to go there. I don't think it encourages small scale pvp. Yesterday was some of the worst PvP I've had because every 50 minutes I had to stop PvPing to go stealth pve cap a random resource. The resource only matters for 1 second out of every hour, at the eval point. It's the same old same old for a small group taking a resource... either no one cares because it's not eval time or you get zerged down. No small groups are fighting over these things.
This is a two sides to a coin issue, I don't see a middle ground without redesigning some things.
Either people care about resources because it counts for campaign score, but then they only care about it once every hour for a minuscule amount of time. OR it doesn't count for campaign score and no one cares. Cutting the transit lines is not effective and only a minor inconvenience. If you made it so losing all resources prevented ressing at the keep it would be interesting, but imo it would just give more reason for large groups to mow down whoever attempts to do so.
Mano i have said the easiest fix to this entire stacking mess is to cap players AP gain when in a map area. If there are more than 24 players of the same faction number 25 and up get 0 AP. this can be done its done we have seen it in IC on ball boss in the center of the sewers. Just my easy solution to stacking factions.
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MrTtheDK✭✭✭@Crown @Manoekin Congratulations on winning the campaign for the Queen. Haven't played in Trueflame due to Prime time burn out (Lag is too Strong) and focusing on small man. You guys have always been great raid leaders and good to see you guys back in game and kicking ass. Be as smug as you guys want!
Cheers
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DC- Diablo Azul , Mr T
Alts: Nerf Something or Another
Guild: - Imperial City Police
RIP Guilds: Purple, WKB, Eight Divines, Rage, What Mechanics, Entropy Rising
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.
Give me a campaign where resources are worth 0 points and I'd like to go there. I don't think it encourages small scale pvp. Yesterday was some of the worst PvP I've had because every 50 minutes I had to stop PvPing to go stealth pve cap a random resource. The resource only matters for 1 second out of every hour, at the eval point. It's the same old same old for a small group taking a resource... either no one cares because it's not eval time or you get zerged down. No small groups are fighting over these things.
Yeah it was seriously awful. There were times were EP would take a scroll and I would say no because it's worth 1 point and just brings heat our way. It's messed up when it's worth the same amount as the effort it takes for a scroll.
One of the big problems with the faction stack and outnumber is that you can't get rid of the bodies, they just keep rezzing. We defend at keep 10ish vs a real count of 80 for 30m but could never stop them because of the rezes. It encourages people to play like zombie hordes that just overwhelm a keep like World War Z. It would be nice if the resources provided a burial service every 5 minutes and would bury the bodies in their zone so they can't be rezed. Maybe a stacking rez timer in the keeps as well.Edited by Armitas on December 26, 2016 3:37PMRetired.
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SkylarkX✭✭✭✭A big shout out to everyone who participated into the best oceanic sequence of battles in months.
- TKG, Wormhole, Elder Skillz and all the rest of the Kings men and women
- Brains, late night burners and everyone else.
- Skylark and those in Noc, Queens RAM, NML + Fate and all the other randoms who listened to this crazy person shouting out crazy ideas.
Taran + DK for dipping in early as well.
Great fights, some great tactics and a lot of competitive fun had.
Good job to AD as a whole, we wanted it bad, and worked together to make it happen.
It was a pleasure working with you to keep the map yellow during the night shift - I know the noc guys and girls have really enjoyed coming back in to pvp after a hiatus with the competitiveness of this campaign being a big part of it.God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.
Give me a campaign where resources are worth 0 points and I'd like to go there. I don't think it encourages small scale pvp. Yesterday was some of the worst PvP I've had because every 50 minutes I had to stop PvPing to go stealth pve cap a random resource. The resource only matters for 1 second out of every hour, at the eval point. It's the same old same old for a small group taking a resource... either no one cares because it's not eval time or you get zerged down. No small groups are fighting over these things.
Yeah it was seriously awful. There were times were EP would take a scroll and I would say no because it's worth 1 point and just brings heat our way. It's messed up when it's worth the same amount as the effort it takes for a scroll.
One of the big problems with the faction stack and outnumber is that you can't get rid of the bodies, they just keep rezzing. We defend at keep 10ish vs a real count of 80 for 30m but could never stop them because of the rezes. It encourages people to play like zombie hordes that just overwhelm a keep like World War Z. It would be nice if the resources provided a burial service every 5 minutes and would bury the bodies in their zone so they can't be rezed. Maybe a stacking rez timer in the keeps as well.
I've pondered the idea of cleansing ritual (or one of it's morphs) having a feature that prevents bodies being ressed within its radius while active. At a 12 second duration and 12 metre radius I think it would be a good middle ground solution to the problem..Nocturnal - Oceanic PvX Guild
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Celas_Dranacea✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.
Give me a campaign where resources are worth 0 points and I'd like to go there. I don't think it encourages small scale pvp. Yesterday was some of the worst PvP I've had because every 50 minutes I had to stop PvPing to go stealth pve cap a random resource. The resource only matters for 1 second out of every hour, at the eval point. It's the same old same old for a small group taking a resource... either no one cares because it's not eval time or you get zerged down. No small groups are fighting over these things.
Yeah it was seriously awful. There were times were EP would take a scroll and I would say no because it's worth 1 point and just brings heat our way. It's messed up when it's worth the same amount as the effort it takes for a scroll.
One of the big problems with the faction stack and outnumber is that you can't get rid of the bodies, they just keep rezzing. We defend at keep 10ish vs a real count of 80 for 30m but could never stop them because of the rezes. It encourages people to play like zombie hordes that just overwhelm a keep like World War Z. It would be nice if the resources provided a burial service every 5 minutes and would bury the bodies in their zone so they can't be rezed. Maybe a stacking rez timer in the keeps as well.
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But you know.
Every EP: Oh, look DC took Chal again. We need to go... BRIDGE! BRIDGE!!
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Every AD: Oh look EP took Alessia and Fare while DC got Roe and Brindle.... We need to go....Rayles, Warden, Kingcrest, Farragut resources.Edited by susmitds on December 26, 2016 6:24PM1 -
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✭✭Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.
Give me a campaign where resources are worth 0 points and I'd like to go there. I don't think it encourages small scale pvp. Yesterday was some of the worst PvP I've had because every 50 minutes I had to stop PvPing to go stealth pve cap a random resource. The resource only matters for 1 second out of every hour, at the eval point. It's the same old same old for a small group taking a resource... either no one cares because it's not eval time or you get zerged down. No small groups are fighting over these things.
Yeah it was seriously awful. There were times were EP would take a scroll and I would say no because it's worth 1 point and just brings heat our way. It's messed up when it's worth the same amount as the effort it takes for a scroll.
One of the big problems with the faction stack and outnumber is that you can't get rid of the bodies, they just keep rezzing. We defend at keep 10ish vs a real count of 80 for 30m but could never stop them because of the rezes. It encourages people to play like zombie hordes that just overwhelm a keep like World War Z. It would be nice if the resources provided a burial service every 5 minutes and would bury the bodies in their zone so they can't be rezed. Maybe a stacking rez timer in the keeps as well.
You should not be able to rez after a werewolf has eaten you
I think this would be fair, as wolves can't rez other players.Caius
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Every AD: Oh look EP took Alessia and Fare while DC got Roe and Brindle.... We need to go....Rayles, Warden, Kingcrest, Farragut resources.
so you are saying while the other 2 potato, AD went: oh look lets win the campaign!
works for me One Tamriel killed PVP
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✭A lot of you are complaining about the resource pts. Why I ask? It has been a long time embedded strategy from the days of launch that players when they want to take a keep they flag it without touching resources. 2 years later we used the reverse of that and look it still works. Why would anyone complain about pulling the opposing faction back splitting up the stacked raids and forcing the enemy to deal with multiple fires? yeah that last 2 days resources really mattered in the point mechanics of the game. But what that meant was instead of raiding we had to pull back and defend. In fact we had several of the evals where one eval we would defend the other eval we would raid. I just don't get the salt flowing over resources when they are just as strategic as keeps.
Oh wait i get it now. those that are complaining about resources are the ones that just want to AP farm meta blob v meta blob. Do you miss the good ole days of tower farms because you just don't want to waste the effort of playing the map? We all know why EP has been in last place for the past 7 months. Certain guilds only want to farm AP and never work the map for the faction. They are stuck in there little world and care nothing for their faction. They assume they are better than everyone else and have acquired the type A PVP personality which unfortunately only leads to decay, rot, and terminal cancer for guilds. Dare I list the guilds that have died because of this mentality. There were key moments during this past campaign when it was clearly obvious to other factions where EP's intention was. We all saw it and laughed a little as we walked with the Ghost of Christmas Future. I truly felt a little a sorry for PM, who were actually trying to win and had no real support. I should point out also that I stated publicly that EP needed to win this more than anyone because the ramifications of another loss on the only competitive PC campaign would either force a migration to or mass exodus from the EP faction which in all honesty is not needed.
I think the sentiment is "why win, we gain nothing for it." well I can agree with that a little, but the last time I checked this was a game and everyone wants to win when it comes to real money+real time+experience. Yes I do think ZOS can make the reward system better and yes I do believe ZOS can make the mechanics better on how blobs are dealt with, but the game is incremental in adjustments and honestly I think that's a good safe course to follow. Yes perhaps change is never fast enough for the tastes of Americans with their "I want it now, entitlement sentiments," but like they say "patience is a virtue." Maybe, just maybe, some groups would be happier if they played Candy Land or Hello Kitty, instead of clogging up the ques in ESO.
AD brought forward to this campaign a degree of cooperation that outmatched the other factions. We identified a clear course each day and executed it with the help of every player. We used the mechanics in the game to simply win the game and for that alone we deserve our smug victory and the bragging rights and accolades that we are entitled to. So here, since I am entitled to it, I shall brag: "OMG look at how bad EP players are. They can't even win a campaign. The faction is so sad they can only meta blob around the map in hopes of getting AP. Man I hope their mommy doesn't find out what a waste of her money this has been for them. DC you need to stop holding hands with EP your property values will drop if you let the rift raft in. They are not your friends, It's a trap they only want your goodies."
Let the quoting hate begin because we all know the truth hurts.
Congrats AD you did it. (FYI: it doesn't matter how it was done it only matters that it was a victory.)
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✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »I've known you to be a lot of things but never a liar....until now.Crown wrote:Did I lie about something? Not to my knowledge..
You lied about ad logging off. They hardly logged.?
@God_flakes You didn't actually read what I wrote.. It was written before the last 2 score ticks. My words were:Crown wrote:short of AD all logging off and giving up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign
The term "short of" means "unless the following happens".
See here for idioms: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/short+of
Notably the line:3. Other than, without resorting to, as in Short of yelling, I had no other way of getting his attention.
Thus, the meaning of my statement was: Unless AD all log off and give up every single point on the map, it looks like we've won the campaign.
No lie there.
EDIT: @Manoekin Didn't see your response before writing this. Leaving it up anyway for the @ tag.
10 hours in game and 3 whiskeys blurred my vision, Crown. I read "in spite of". But thanks/no thanks for the condescending explanation of what "short of" means.DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Was a pretty fun campaign. Unfortunately EP's lack of Oceanic presence made it very hard to stay in any sort of lead without putting together morning crews to slowly and painfully grind out points that EP would lose in the night xD, but here's to hoping there is one in the near future so that we can compete at all hours of the day against the multiple primetimes NA/PC has.
Good work to everyone, lots of fun fights.
See you out there this campaign ^_^
Actually, EP Oceanic crew was fairly active. Even when AD had the point lead, one group consistently pushed DC near the end of the campaign. The loss to AD was partly because of this. But Oceanic blue did enjoy the fights with Oceanic yellow as always. However the campaign finishes, most of us still manage to have friendships and respect for one another. Cheers to Oceanic, the best of the best!
The group you're talking about is one that actually consists of mostly non-Oceanic people who wanted to play with the few Oceanic people who aren't on in our primetime. Recently they have made a guild, and will hopefully be more active, but other than them, there is no major Oceanic presence for EP. I try to get online around 4am-6am CST and help with the map before I have morning errands and such, and that's about when that group starts up. I'm not really complaining, it was extremely fun to fight and pug wrangle, and push what we could, defend what we could, and actually have people listen. Campaign was awesome.
Agree. Campaign was a good one. But part of EPs loss was due to what I wrote. AD gained points because EP didn't focus much on that side of the map. Instead, blue was fending off both red and yellow. And no complaints from me. I'm cool with the results and awesome fights. But EP probably could've taken the campaign, if the Oceanic crew had cut down AD's lead.
EP tried all day Sunday to fend off smurfs off Chal - and didn't even bother going to Bleaker/Dragon with hopes that DC would finally do something to AD and it just did not happen.
In fact at the end, Chalman was blue - and there was barely ANY action in the Ash area at all - while EP made a HUGE push down South and took BRK/Drake and kept and I believe even took Faregyl and one of the way back keeps
and short of mentioning names - there were a lot of DC who spent a lot of time on their AD toons and at the end with AD pop lock (and I heard 100 waiting time) - were on their DC toons farming Chalman/Bleaker area
the campaign scores so close, this was great, I haven't had this much fun playing in Cyrodil in last 11 months I have been here - and AD/EP should be really proud of doing what they did and almost having no Bridge farms - now if only EP/DC stopped potatoing certain other areas we could actually have a real AvAvA
I was so proud of Ep when they pushed south despite Dc's persistence on Chalman. I called out in zone for my faction to help ep push and only a handful would ever go south with me. It makes sense that ad were on their dc....as the feel in dc was very different all day, not the normal names, not the normal attitudes, numerous people squatting inside Bleakers (some for hours on end). And as soon as the campaign ended-surprise! Dc goes south and takes ash and nikel with almost no resistance from ad.
As I said, they got their special snowflake trophy (and shite pvp gear). I hope this puts an end to their forum crying.
It made no sense to us either. The most we ever saw Ash flagged with was 4 siege while DC remained in the east. I had wondered if DC called in some trade guilds because I kept seeing so many new names with 6-700CP and no rank. Here they all were at BRK when ash would have earned them twice the points. We couldn't make sense of their strategy. As soon as we saw it was going to be 2v1 we quit scoring and just tried to hold the best we could.
The sad reality of ESO PvP is that if you just zerg the *** out of whoever shows up at an objective eventually they just stop showing up. This is why DC didn't push ash but for a few times. This is also not just a yesterday thing. There's a reason why when Alessia is EP and AD tries to take it back only to be met with some combination of pact militia/haxus/invictus or all of them, they usually just go back to nikel and fight there. The same goes for when Roebeck is blue and whatever AD try to siege it get zerged down relentlessly by saramis and shadowgrabber and LOM + pugs. They just go to the bridge after.
I'm certain this is why fights stop happening around bleakers or ales/chalman at times and both factions start faction stacking AD side, because either EP or DC zergs the *** out of whoever shows up there.
That makes sense, maybe it's time to lower those pop caps again. Maybe it will turn haderus into a real campaign.
Give me a campaign where resources are worth 0 points and I'd like to go there. I don't think it encourages small scale pvp. Yesterday was some of the worst PvP I've had because every 50 minutes I had to stop PvPing to go stealth pve cap a random resource. The resource only matters for 1 second out of every hour, at the eval point. It's the same old same old for a small group taking a resource... either no one cares because it's not eval time or you get zerged down. No small groups are fighting over these things.
This is a two sides to a coin issue, I don't see a middle ground without redesigning some things.
Either people care about resources because it counts for campaign score, but then they only care about it once every hour for a minuscule amount of time. OR it doesn't count for campaign score and no one cares. Cutting the transit lines is not effective and only a minor inconvenience. If you made it so losing all resources prevented ressing at the keep it would be interesting, but imo it would just give more reason for large groups to mow down whoever attempts to do so.
Mano i have said the easiest fix to this entire stacking mess is to cap players AP gain when in a map area. If there are more than 24 players of the same faction number 25 and up get 0 AP. this can be done its done we have seen it in IC on ball boss in the center of the sewers. Just my easy solution to stacking factions.
They sort of have that already with ap being divided per contribution. It pulls the decent guilds away but the rest of the masses are not there because their is a large pot of AP there. The main problem is that populations run down hill for safety. The proc sets ganks, and other broken builds are so bad that no one is going to venture away from the rest of the herd. The herd knows that the rest of the herd is going to be at the bookends. For EP/DC thats chalman gate for AD/EP thats Alessia bridge, for AD/DC thats Ash gate. Nothing is going to make them spread out because as soon as they do they will get wrecked by some proc set hero. Maybe it will get better after this balance update and people will feel more comfortable leaving the mass herds.Edited by Armitas on December 27, 2016 3:48PMRetired.
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✭So here, since I am entitled to it, I shall brag: "OMG look at how bad EP players are. They can't even win a campaign. The faction is so sad they can only meta blob around the map in hopes of getting AP. Man I hope their mommy doesn't find out what a waste of her money this has been for them. DC you need to stop holding hands with EP your property values will drop if you let the rift raft in. They are not your friends, It's a trap they only want your goodies." Let the quoting hate begin because we all know the truth hurts.
@Anazasi I haven't laughed so hard since you explained to Sarenvog how babies are made..
Crown | AD NB | First AD/NA Grand Overlord (2015/12/26)
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