ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »Pepper8Jack wrote: »As others have said, even if these sets were light with arcane jewelry they still wouldn't out parse current BiS setups. That's not to say that these sets are worthless, just that even if the change you want was implemented, the trial meta wouldn't change at all. So if the concern is with min/maxing for your intended role, these sets won't be on the radar regardless of the 3k magicka you'd be missing.
I wouldn't look at these as a min-maxing set anyway. Rattlecage is more like a "set I can run when I don't want to spend gold on potions" set. Medusa is a little more interesting because there are not very many good ways to get "Minor Force" on a magicka build and I could see someone wanting to save the skill slot (and extra skill in rotation).
Samuel_Bantien wrote: »
@shrb
you say: "You make a dps set"
and then you do something on the contrary with Health on the Jewelry
I do not think that this set is intended as a DPS set for a pure DPS build.
There is more than just pure builds
like High Health builds wanting to do some HPS and or DPS as well.
It could also be, that once the already announced benefits for a higher Health Pool have been implemented end 2016/Q1 2017, this set is going to be a very viable choice.
So you're saying its not viable right now and that magicka builds have to wait till the next update to have a viable set that is already implemented in the game?
Let's just say stamina has great sets coming in Robust jewelry (Draugr Hulk, Strength of the Automoton, Sword Singer, Sword Dancer, Toxic Defiance) while the (was) most desired Magicka sets come in Healthy jewelry (Soulshine, Medusa).
No favoritism here.
Meh.. As a PVE magika dps I wouldn't use either of those sets. I don't see anything out dpsing TBS or Mother's Sorrow. In PVP I see plenty of use for these sets where wearing heavy and having more HP would be beneficial.
soulshine for magplars would be great for pve dps imo.
And i already said that for pvp it's fine, but when more than half the magic sets are in heavy, then it hoses pve choices and it ends in everyone running the same armor, because only so few light armors are worth it for pve dps.
@shrb
you say: "You make a dps set"
and then you do something on the contrary with Health on the Jewelry
I do not think that this set is intended as a DPS set for a pure DPS build.
There is more than just pure builds
like High Health builds wanting to do some HPS and or DPS as well.
It could also be, that once the already announced benefits for a higher Health Pool have been implemented end 2016/Q1 2017, this set is going to be a very viable choice.
as i said:
fringe case scenarios (high health, heavy, pve dps, lulwhat?) should be the ones having to jump through hoops, NOT the other way around (simple light wearing mag dps).
and for those that say 3 sets/zone so it's locked in place:
easy solution:
swap the medium to heavy and the heavy to light. /sarcasm.
As i said the solution is SIMPLE:
EACH set should have jewels for it's ROLE. But the developers are lazy and just went "light=arcane, med=robust, heavy= healthy. Suit yourselfs"
I utterly disagree with: "EACH set should have jewels for it's ROLE" whereby you ONLY see ROLES as pure builds.
Pure builds are only for the specialist roles in a raid, especially a trial.
This game is much, much bigger than that and caters many more roles, builds, situations. From off-Tank, off-Healer, and solo-duo raids, there are duellists, there is PVP.
I do however are of the opinion that we should get the full freedom of Arcane, Healthy, Robust on all Jewelry.
The problem with that is that it takes more grinding to get the perfect set of Jewelry.
And not everybody will favor that every kind is in the RNG.
That all would be solved if ZOS would allow us a limited Jewelry Crafting where we can change for example Healthy in Arcane etc.
Anyhow... I guess we can agree to disagree on this topic
Samuel_Bantien wrote: »Does Rattlecage and Medusa drop in Healthy or Arcane.. (or Robust / All Traits)?
Got some Theorying to do.
thisSamuel_Bantien wrote: »Does Rattlecage and Medusa drop in Healthy or Arcane.. (or Robust / All Traits)?
Got some Theorying to do.
Rattlecage jewelry come in 2 versions, healty for comon and arcane for "unique"