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Why is there so much lag/crashes in the New Life Festival?

  • majulook
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    They might be using this to get stress metrics on the game, servers, connectivity, etc...
    Hopefully something good will come of this, but maybe not.
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  • Rev Rielle
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    I must admit that these 'one big world servers' that MMOs like to have these days, just don't actually seem to be that great. It seems a nice idea, but for some reason they can't handle so many characters being in the one area. Smarter event quest design I think might be needed to come up with solutions to these problems that occur keep occuring.
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  • Pops_ND_Irish
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    ZOS changed the title of this post and a few others. I guess they are moderating titles too...not sure what I did...

    The original title was if the event would be extended because of the lag. I guess I shouldn't have mentioned "extend the event". LOL. These guys have fascist moderators and a crown store that works without a single problem...just terrible game implementation.

    They only did that because there were 25 threads for the same thing !
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Come guys it has only been a couple years. You cant expect them to learn from their mistakes that quickly. Or mistakes other game companies made years ago.

    This is a different kind of MMO!
  • Bucky Balls
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    Celebrate the New Life Festival

    I'd like to but some sadist at zos decided it would be a really great idea to dump EVERYONE in 1 single location without a second thought to the massive and utterly predictable server hit.

    Crashed 2 steps from wayshrine next to zerg-of-NewLife; can;t re-log because you[zos] have 1 tiny server with a 6502 processor and 1 kB of ram deployed for handling every player in the eu server zone.

    I'm betting the quests get handed out in the same order, too, so the zerg-of-NewLife lags and crashes its way from one zone to the next and back again.

    [pc-eu]

  • Abeille
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    So...

    We are not put in different shards anymore, I guess. Everyone in the same place and the same shard is an awful idea.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • danno8
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    Just completed all the quests without a hitch. Tonnes of people around at all the different activities but haven't crashed, have a ping at about 100-150, and even framerate has been pretty good at 30+ at least.

    I wonder why there is such a difference between one person and another?
  • Bucky Balls
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    danno8 wrote: »

    I wonder why there is such a difference between one person and another?

    Luck. You're the 1 in 100 000*. Congratulations.

    At best, if you can log-in and don't crash next to Breda most zone/guild chat reflects 999+ latency. And of course, if you do crash next to Breda, logging in again is not guaranteed.

    edit: *yes, speculative
    Edited by Bucky Balls on December 15, 2016 6:22PM
  • AnnieBeGood
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    I rarely crash. I crashed twice. Then I finally talked to Breda..... got a quest to get mystery meat and honey. Y'know, I kinda felt sorry for those wolves, 50 stalwart warriors attacking each easy little furry thing..... and I hate to tell you ZOS, but wasps do not make honey. Neither do they carry it under their little legs.
    *** hum.... but actually I got juggling knives in my prize. I REALLY think they are fun
    Edited by AnnieBeGood on December 15, 2016 6:22PM
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  • The_Protagonist
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Just completed all the quests without a hitch. Tonnes of people around at all the different activities but haven't crashed, have a ping at about 100-150, and even framerate has been pretty good at 30+ at least.

    I wonder why there is such a difference between one person and another?

    Good for you, some of here are not even able to go beyond character selection screen. When I try to enter, it takes along time on the loading screen, then goes back to login screen with a message saying that it cant connect as if there is a connection problem.

    This is really very disappointing, that guy from ESO who thought that it was a great idea to dump everyone in one location is a real troll.

    Thank you ZOS :/ you ruined my weekend.
    Edited by The_Protagonist on December 15, 2016 6:52PM
  • Shad0wfire99
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    Hey, can we get an extra week of double xp on XBox since I cant do any of the worthless achievements since my game keeps crashing?


    XBox NA
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    I rarely crash. I crashed twice. Then I finally talked to Breda..... got a quest to get mystery meat and honey. Y'know, I kinda felt sorry for those wolves, 50 stalwart warriors attacking each easy little furry thing..... and I hate to tell you ZOS, but wasps do not make honey. Neither do they carry it under their little legs.
    *** hum.... but actually I got juggling knives in my prize. I REALLY think they are fun

    I still giggle when i kill some small little critter and pull out a staff or some chest plate.
  • MarkusLiberty
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    One thing I have discovered is that the loading time is greatly reduced if you travel to a wayshrine further away from the event.
    *Special Snowflake*

  • Neirymn
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    Hmm, ok I can't even log back in when I crashed at Breda's place. The worse is people staying there spamming spells or doing nothing, it's unplayable for me. :/
  • pattyLtd
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    Haha, it almost looks like they dont realize how many people play there game and everytime they release someing go like "omg didnt expect this amount of players"
    English is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Johngo0036 wrote: »
    Which bright spark at zenni thought it was a good idea to funnel the whole populace to one spot in the WHOLE or tamriel,

    Lag is ridiculous, even more than in PVP,

    Game keeps crashing when i want to hand in one of the quests in Eastmarch....

    Great idea for a fun festival, cr@p execution yet again..

    WTF were you thinking.

    Same idea that WoW had back in the day.....this why they have tons of seperate servers and factions

    The event was years ago and caused their servers to crash just to open an area that needed full server participation
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  • Sharmony
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    It's simple, because the servers can't handle the numbers. It's why they also downgraded PvP.
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  • Evergnar
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    Haven't crashed in quite awhile but just did trying to port to Alikr. I don't understand how Zos can acknowledge the lag issues and talk about spreading players out and then design an event this way.
  • Incognitius
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    Heh, I've crashed two characters in Eastmarch that I cannot log into anymore. :s
  • Flynch
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    I really hope this is a wake-up call to ZOS. To either upgrade the servers, introduce zone shards, introduce some sort of server throttling, or simply reflect on the terrible planning behind the event.
  • The_Protagonist
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    Is there anyway I can put my character in some other area rather than the over crowded Eastmarch on character screen? (I know I cant, but wish I could)
    I just simply cant login, because I was kicked off the server from Eastmarch. I'm PC/EU.
  • Abeille
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    Flynch wrote: »
    I really hope this is a wake-up call to ZOS. To either upgrade the servers, introduce zone shards, introduce some sort of server throttling, or simply reflect on the terrible planning behind the event.

    I honestly don't know. We had a similar problem during the Anniversary Event, but that was before 1T, the npc was in three different places (each alliance's starting town) and you could always go to your gold or silver area if you wanted to avoid the crowd. After that, I expected them to do something about the crashes, especially after 1T was announced.

    So I don't know. If they didn't something back then... Would they do something now? They can always just wait for the issue to go away once people stop doing the quests, leave for the holidays or the event ends.
    Edited by Abeille on December 15, 2016 6:57PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • pattyLtd
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    Thanks for reporting i think ill wait or pass on the event for now.
    I expect more patch maintenance is inbound
    English is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm
  • Nestor
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    What I don't understand is how someone could have thought it was a good idea to have only one NPC in the entire game for a Special Event like this.

    Every other event, spread the NPCs out at least across the alliances. Yes, yes, One Tamriel removed the Technical Reason for this, but it did not remove the the Performance reason for providing multiple NPCs.
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  • chrissouza7ub17_ESO
    If removing this event will fix the latency issues making the game pretty much unusable, I vote to remove the event until further notice.
  • Rataroto
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    "Kill 5 wildlife in the area", smalles area possible, maybe 6 mobs around total....
    30 people spaming aoes so they can get credit for a kill

    Fish me a fish, 1 fishing hole with over 30 people on it...

    @ZOS_GinaBruno can we please increasse the spawn rate, or just make the areas 10 times(no joke) bigger?
  • KhaN_BE
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    Finally got back in. You won't be seeing me back in Eastmarch any time soon.

    You would have thought they learned something from the 2016 anniversary event. Converging all players in three locations wasn't a great idea at the time, let alone converging them all in a single location.

  • ookami007
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    EVENT = FAIL

    But they introduced the lag bug BEFORE the event and then scrambled to fix and and failed. Now that's happening ON TOP OF the event lag.
    Edited by ookami007 on December 15, 2016 7:50PM
  • Alex_Lex
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    This is how it all ends.

    I am stuck in Eastmarch and can't even login.

    "Unable to connect to game server. Please make sure you have a valid internet connection"

    Yep, sure, this is me who ruins the game.
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    It looks like the best bet is to skip the event completely and in a week to 10 days, buy the skinchanger motif and any collectables you want from players guild vendors. The price should drop towards the end of the event like last time.
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