Why is there so much lag/crashes in the New Life Festival?

Ashtaris

KhaN_BE wrote: »

Finally got back in. You won't be seeing me back in Eastmarch any time soon.

You would have thought they learned something from the 2016 anniversary event. Converging all players in three locations wasn't a great idea at the time, let alone converging them all in a single location.

ZOS has a knack for repeating the same mistakes over, and over, and over again. You would swear that they base their whole office operations on the movie "Groundhog Day".

Brrrofski

Got a character stuck in alik'r and another in daggerfall. Literally cannot port. Endless loading screen. Ridiculous.

AshTal

I crash all the time fact I am stood with 100+ people probably explains this.

Delpi

Lag... lag everywhere!

XDragonDoomX

New Life Festival = fun idea.
1T = poor idea
New Life Festival + 1T = absobleedinlutely terrible

gp1680

Wouldn't it be nice if ZOS was as fast fixing the multitude of issues with the game as they are closing, locking, editing threads? Ohhh I dream...

Loralai_907

Well...I am at work and I was looking forward to logging in tonight when I get home. But it sounds like for most people it is not going well. I really do not want to get a character stuck. And DC's inspire me to go do something else instead of playing ESO.

I don't know why they didn't plan for this. This on top of 3 maintenance days this week because things were already wonky. Stacking bad on top of bad. Are they intentionally trying to break everything?

Tandor

Bucky Balls wrote: »

Celebrate the New Life Festival

I'd like to but some sadist at zos decided it would be a really great idea to dump EVERYONE in 1 single location without a second thought to the massive and utterly predictable server hit.

Crashed 2 steps from wayshrine next to zerg-of-NewLife; can;t re-log because you[zos] have 1 tiny server with a 6502 processor and 1 kB of ram deployed for handling every player in the eu server zone.

I'm betting the quests get handed out in the same order, too, so the zerg-of-NewLife lags and crashes its way from one zone to the next and back again.

[pc-eu]

I didn't actually have any performance issues on the PC EU server myself, it was crowded as heck but ran very smoothly. However, it isn't helpful in these circumstances when half the players constantly let off AoE spells and add to the problems some are experiencing. It's always ZOS that get the blame, but the fault doesn't always lie just with them - daft though it was to set the event up this way, I'm in no doubt whatsoever on that point - it's also down to some of the players and we shouldn't ignore that. I wonder, for example, how many guild leaders have asked, or will ask, their members not to cast AoE spells in crowded areas during this event? It's a crappy design for an event, but players have the option to make the best of it or mess it up even more for everyone else.

xXSilverDragonXx

I think with the issues that were happening before the event, they are not more prevalent. I had started crashing when using shrines in certain instances. Now it's not even just shrines. It's random. Certain zones are worse it seems.

Annalyse

Well, I'm glad I came here before logging in to play. I will be avoiding this event for the time being.

chrissouza7ub17_ESO

@ZOS_RyanM

Closing all the new threads being created involving issues about lag and this event then redirecting to this thread is great, but the real question is: What is being done to resolve the latency issues? I know your just a moderator and probably don't know, but can you go ask someone that does know. Do we have Engineers actively working the issue? Are we going to let this continue through the fist of the year due to holidays and staff taking time off? It would be nice if we the player base had a better idea of the situation at hand, but instead all we can do is bash you for this event. A little nugget of information shedding light on the situation will go a long ways.

Shader_Shibes

It's a complete mess, a mess that i cant seem to understand how ZOS didn't foresee.

Delta1038

Brrrofski wrote: »

Got a character stuck in alik'r and another in daggerfall. Literally cannot port. Endless loading screen. Ridiculous.

I am curious if that is EU specific? I have been running around daggerfall and it has been completely fine, or it might just be a lucky break?

Arciris

New Lag Festival

PC NA, same as most people: 999+ ping, random disconnects followed by the impossibility to log back in. Will have to wait for late hours and try again.
Not fun

hiyde

Nestor wrote: »

What I don't understand is how someone could have thought it was a good idea to have only one NPC in the entire game for a Special Event like this.

Every other event, spread the NPCs out at least across the alliances. Yes, yes, One Tamriel removed the Technical Reason for this, but it did not remove the the Performance reason for providing multiple NPCs.

And on top of that, just one XP keg in the game in the same spot?
We had a great template with the cake and witches brew where we could renew the XP buff from anywhere.

Wait til peak times. This will be a nightmare.

Suggestion: Re-Activate the cake and witches brew for this festival - that could seriously help with overcrowding.

There's already widespread chatter of people trolling fellow players, trying to make it hard (or impossible) to achieve quest objectives, etc.

While I admire the expansion of things to do over previous special events, they should be fun, not full of stress, trolling, lag and crashing. The response I'm seeing so far in all of my guild chats is 100% negative. I get that there are some who will complain about anything, but this feels warranted.

The change for how to get the XP buff and limiting all of this to one location is mind-boggling. Who wouldn't see this coming?

Hopefully lessons are learned for next time.

Pandorii

With the addition of crown crates and the overall lack of real and meaningful changes to them after they were first introduced in the PTS, ZOS is on thin ice.

Additionally, they manage to disappoint the community by forgoing a fundamental feature in player housing, storage.

Lastly, just this week PC had three days of back-to-back unschedule maintenances to fix "performance" issues. PS4 players are wondering why only a few bugs got fixed in the last incremental patch, and Xbox players are just barely getting compensated for months of not getting their sub crowns.

People are looking to have their trust restored, and holiday events are a great opportunity for that. Time and effort was certainly put into developing the ideas for the events, especially lore-wise. I'm disappointed with the execution, and it has only added to my lack of trust towards ZOS creating quality content.

On top of that, I am extremely disappointed that they'd sell the crown store exclusive motif (which I think shouldn't even be in the crown store in the first place) for 200 crowns less but with 50 mimic stones less than the one that released during the Halloween event. Similarly, I'm disappointed by how riddles your crown store adornments, tattoos, and accessories are. Some are not even showing at all, and some disappear.

Your message is loud and clear now ZOS. You want more of my money for less of your goods. You want me to pay the same cost for your sub, DLCs, and items but provide less quality content. When something new is going to roll along, I won't get my hopes up because it'll be missing something vital or executed poorly.

NewBlacksmurf

Tandor wrote: »

Bucky Balls wrote: »

Celebrate the New Life Festival

I'd like to but some sadist at zos decided it would be a really great idea to dump EVERYONE in 1 single location without a second thought to the massive and utterly predictable server hit.

Crashed 2 steps from wayshrine next to zerg-of-NewLife; can;t re-log because you[zos] have 1 tiny server with a 6502 processor and 1 kB of ram deployed for handling every player in the eu server zone.

I'm betting the quests get handed out in the same order, too, so the zerg-of-NewLife lags and crashes its way from one zone to the next and back again.

[pc-eu]

I didn't actually have any performance issues on the PC EU server myself, it was crowded as heck but ran very smoothly. However, it isn't helpful in these circumstances when half the players constantly let off AoE spells and add to the problems some are experiencing. It's always ZOS that get the blame, but the fault doesn't always lie just with them - daft though it was to set the event up this way, I'm in no doubt whatsoever on that point - it's also down to some of the players and we shouldn't ignore that. I wonder, for example, how many guild leaders have asked, or will ask, their members not to cast AoE spells in crowded areas during this event? It's a crappy design for an event, but players have the option to make the best of it or mess it up even more for everyone else.

Actually the blame and responsibility is 100% on ZOS
@Tandor
The game is designed to allow ppl to troll, harass and does little to nothing for any actual logic based performance adjustments

Logically you'd think maybe @ZOS_RichLambert or someone would read these posts and all the feedback on general, bugs and platform specific tech problems

A very large majority of complaints can be rectified by doing these basic adjustments

-disable all casting and emotes and mounting by quest NPCs
-disable dueling in common areas where crafting, wayshrines or quests are located
-ensuring that any special event use account bound momento
-considering the event quests be instances...meaning regardless of the type, the actual quests should be group eligible but instances as to cut down on gathering and clutter
-establish quest NPCs with a 15 meter radius for quest interaction and completion

-load player character last when there are quest NPCs in the radius but load the NPC first


This is a start regarding this topic

I have another thread around group and trials
....I may not have the answers but it's an attempt to prevent issues by design

KramUzibra

I hate that I love eso sooo much!! I will never stop playing and I will continue to spend money on what i want but it is clear the direction zos is going has dramatically affected the community in a negative way. I hope ZOS realizes this before it's too late.

Kodrac

The game was a laggy mess and crashing last night without the help of the festival. I guess I'll be avoiding it for a while. *sigh*

hiyde

This is what it looks like at 1 spawn point for mobs that need to be killed, at 3:50pm east / 12:50pm west on a weekday.

Imagine what this will look like at prime time.

Pandorii

hiyde wrote: »

This is what it looks like at 1 spawn point for mobs that need to be killed, at 3:50pm east / 12:50pm west on a weekday.

Imagine what this will look like at prime time.

That actually looks FUN! /said no one ever...

vamp_emily

I've been reading a lot of negative feedback about the event.

Do I need to pickup a few things before I go home tonight; like a hammer, aspirin, or alcohol? Or a movie for the times I will be sitting in the load screens.

NewBlacksmurf

vamp_emily wrote: »

I've been reading a lot of negative feedback about the event.

Do I need to pickup a few things before I go home tonight; like a hammer, aspirin, or alcohol? Or a movie for the times I will be sitting in the load screens.

@vamp_emily
Prob should go ahead and get on cause it seems there will be a patch tomorrow. Maybe just a hotfix and no server downtime but you've been warned about the foolishness

Ilsabet

Does healbotting the people spamming aoes get you kill credit if you're not in a party with them?

Darkestnght

This whole Festival sounds like a big waste of time. I have yet to log on and experience it but then again I may just forgo the whole Festival for awhile and wait and see if the event becomes playable at some point.

Rittings

Needs Breda in different zones... only way to solve it.

Aurielle

I just did three of the quests on PS4 NA, and with the exception of an unusually long loading screen in Windhelm (30 seconds or so), I didn't have any other issues. *shrug* No DCs, no particularly bad lag...

The only thing that was annoying was camping monster spawn points in Grahtwood. Standing around spamming AOEs for five minutes is not my idea of fun. They need to up the respawn rate there pronto for the duration of the event.

Thornen

Dazza1968 wrote: »

Who in their right mind would approve to run the event this way, common sense shouldve seen this coming a mile away.

It's seems to be a prerequisite to have none when developing content for this game.

Loc2262

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

It looks like the best bet is to skip the event completely and in a week to 10 days, buy the skinchanger motif and any collectables you want from players guild vendors.

Agreed.

This "event" ruined a raid evening for me.

Was supposed to play on my main healer. Had the glorious idea to quickly check out what this festival is all about before the raid starts, crashed after porting to Eastmarch, now game won't let me log in the character anymore.

Thank you ZOS. Not amused here.

Tandor

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Bucky Balls wrote: »

Celebrate the New Life Festival

I'd like to but some sadist at zos decided it would be a really great idea to dump EVERYONE in 1 single location without a second thought to the massive and utterly predictable server hit.

Crashed 2 steps from wayshrine next to zerg-of-NewLife; can;t re-log because you[zos] have 1 tiny server with a 6502 processor and 1 kB of ram deployed for handling every player in the eu server zone.

I'm betting the quests get handed out in the same order, too, so the zerg-of-NewLife lags and crashes its way from one zone to the next and back again.

[pc-eu]

I didn't actually have any performance issues on the PC EU server myself, it was crowded as heck but ran very smoothly. However, it isn't helpful in these circumstances when half the players constantly let off AoE spells and add to the problems some are experiencing. It's always ZOS that get the blame, but the fault doesn't always lie just with them - daft though it was to set the event up this way, I'm in no doubt whatsoever on that point - it's also down to some of the players and we shouldn't ignore that. I wonder, for example, how many guild leaders have asked, or will ask, their members not to cast AoE spells in crowded areas during this event? It's a crappy design for an event, but players have the option to make the best of it or mess it up even more for everyone else.

Actually the blame and responsibility is 100% on ZOS
@Tandor
The game is designed to allow ppl to troll, harass and does little to nothing for any actual logic based performance adjustments

Logically you'd think maybe @ZOS_RichLambert or someone would read these posts and all the feedback on general, bugs and platform specific tech problems

A very large majority of complaints can be rectified by doing these basic adjustments

-disable all casting and emotes and mounting by quest NPCs
-disable dueling in common areas where crafting, wayshrines or quests are located
-ensuring that any special event use account bound momento
-considering the event quests be instances...meaning regardless of the type, the actual quests should be group eligible but instances as to cut down on gathering and clutter
-establish quest NPCs with a 15 meter radius for quest interaction and completion

-load player character last when there are quest NPCs in the radius but load the NPC first


This is a start regarding this topic

I have another thread around group and trials
....I may not have the answers but it's an attempt to prevent issues by design

As I've said, this was a daft event design by ZOS and for that they are certainly 100% responsible.

However, as with any game, the players have the choice whether to make the best of things, or to deliberately make things worse for everyone else. If they choose the former that does not excuse ZOS one iota for the poor design, but if they choose the latter it is entirely down to the players concerned and not ZOS. There's simply no excuse for making a bad situation worse, and while I agree entirely with your suggested adjustments, they don't relate to how things are tonight and only the players can make the best of things until fixes are introduced.