Im very familiar with roll dodging. I was asking about wether or not he telegraphs it or not. From what ive observed he will randomly put his arm out and killl somone. When he casts his blue fire aoe he typically does it imediatly after but not always.

If standing in 12 3 6 9 is what most people do ill try that.

Good to know that he faces you before casting it! But it is a quickly cast ability so you have to be on your toes expecting it. He will cast it every ~15 secs so you can get a rough feel of when the next one is due.

It is not technically a one-shot but just does a lot of damage. Around 14k on Veteran and 20k on Hard Mode. That's with a Light Armor DPS with maxed defensive CPs so it may be more or less for you. If you are really having problems avoiding the ability then try to get your health above 20k so you can hopefully survive one hit and have the healer rescue you. Or use shields if you have them (a tank using Igneous helps a bit too).

The abilities the last boss fires in Spindleclutch I are similar from a damage standpoint. I believe the tell there is where she rears up a bit she will cast in the next second.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

If the tank taunts, the remaining party members shouldn't be eating the shock ball.

Can't taunt him and keep him in place, but it should prevent that.

Same (and only) reason to keep taunt on Direfrost boss - they both move as they want to.

This attack hits a random member of the group regardless of if the boss is taunted or not. This is a common mechanic of dungeon bosses otherwise it would be far too easy (just taunt and no one takes any damage other than from AoEs).

@R4eorx_Holybeard it is common but most one shots telegraph for a little longer. @code65536 thank you for your aggreance. I bring this up as a discussion because I personally am no stranger to difficult content IV done maelstrom and vmol. I can figure those out but this stupid boss is so annoying. Basically the mechanic makes it nigh impossible for stam toons to get a no death. My point is this boss require your reflexes to be faster then down vmol or vmsa because nothing in those require similar reaction timing.

@AzuraKin you are right about the health thing but I feel 18k Hp is a good zone for me i go for 19k Hp in vet hm trials and that is enough but not enough for this guy some how the I think 21k ish is were u need to be for him. I don't like the idea of have to up my health everytime I do that boss tho. I wish it telegraphed a little longer. Because he one shots at full health thru a block at full health for me.

@AzuraKin yeah true I generally run with guildies that are experienced trial raiders. If I have guild tank with me they are solid.

AzuraKin wrote: »

also its not a 1 shot mechanic. people die to it cause healer is not keeping thier health full or they have the necessary health.

On my CP-capped sorc wearing TBS (so I have a health bonus), running 5/1/1 with full undaunted passives and a tank running Ebon, I have over 19K health. And, you're right, it's not a 1-shot--it leaves me with a few hundred health left. Now imagine if the group didn't have an Ebon tank--it'd be a 1-shot. Imagine if the thing knocked me back into one of the fire circles--that's effectively a 1-shot. Imagine if I wasn't CP-capped (so take away all that mitigation and extra health from the red CP tree)--it'd be a 1-shot. My alt account doesn't even have 400 CP, and that attack really is a 1-shot. There's something wrong when my alt account has a much easier time no-deathing stage 5 of vMA than no-deathing a boss fight in a tier-1 vet dungeon.

There's nothing wrong with there being high-damaging 1-shot (or near-1-shot) attacks. As I alluded to earlier, Skoria and Nerien'eth both have similar attacks that ignore taunt, can hit anyone at range, will knock you down, and do enough damage to be either a 1-shot or near-1-shot. But both of these attacks have clear visual cues and give an alert player a reasonable amount of time to react and either dodge or block.

So despite vCoA2 and vCoH2 being tougher dungeons with tougher final boss fights that involve more mechanics and more DPS checks, it's easier to no-death their final boss fights because there are reasonable margins for players to work within.

yodased wrote: »

You have to anticipate it more than the other 1-shots.

He will fire directly after doing his wind-up sword attack.

He will fire when he is casting the fire - just as he is finishing raising his sword for the last fire blast, he will shoot.

If you use those two markers as a sign that its coming, the fight is a lot easier. The person who said it's easy just knows the timing, not really using his "turn and burn" because that is <1 second and it very difficult to determine.

Also, standing still in that fight isn't the best idea.

Unfortunately, that's not really the case. He will fire it roughly every 13 seconds. Depending on what he is doing/casting at the 13 second mark it will may take him a few more seconds to get around to casting his 1-shot (I saw everything from 13 to 18 seconds when testing it). I've seen him do his 1-shot ability after every attack he can do, including his main weapon light attack.

Note that when he is tanked in the same spot and doesn't move he can get in a semi-stable rhythm were he will do the 1-shot after one of his 2 abilities just due to the timing of it. But if you make him wander around or chase after someone this rhythm will be broken.

Once you know about the 13 second thing it becomes slightly easier to manage as you can roughly anticipate when he's going to do and get ready to block/roll-dodge or shield up before hand.