OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Im the one posting high dps number after every boss fight, and will tell you why I do it.

First of all, calm down. if you are doing a vet dungeon and have dd who can pull 50k dps, then you should be happy. Those pugs are rare. I also know a few healers who are interested in what dps I get, which also means if I get extreemly high, the buffs are spot on as well. This is also a way to improve in this game, and to be fair, those people (me) who care alot of dps, are the main reason people who dont care (you) are able to complete a veteran dungeon easy. Funny you mentioned the ignore list, because I did the same last week with a tank who didnt care about dps, running around with corrosive armor and selfish tank stats. Other dd was very low dps and didnt care either. City of ash veteran pledge hardmode, yes sure lets do that. Barely killed it on last platform number 3. I posted lower number then usual since I didnt get any buffs, I think it was 35k or something, but still 80% of group dps in combat meteics.

I always think: if it was 4 of me, how would we complete this? Am I the reason we cant complete? I can tell you right now, 4 of me I would'nt even need to taunt the boss before it died. 4 of you, you would ignorelist yourself and ragequit the dungeon.

With this attitude you should always no matter what situation, do only normal dungeons and never anything that has the word veteran in it, even more importent a 12 man raid. People dont deserve having you on their team. A player like you should stick to soloquesting only.

@OrphanHelgen
The big issue is why are people posting it....nothing is about what use it may serve.

From a point of view where things aren't being completed and you suggest this data...that's fine if people are asking or if you're posting it as consequence to prior statements around a group struggle or stall but just posting it, often times is unnecessary.

While I'm not speaking for everyone, perhaps it's important to take the idea that if they were concerned about their dps, they'd have the meter add-on so they don't need it posted. If you want groups with higher dps...the meter helps you gauge that and allows you to stay or leave as well as (if others are open to it after asking...) to share after confirming it's found to be helpful to that particular situation.

Just something to take into consideration.

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

Its because at the end of the day ZOS developed their game around DPS. They removed most of the other group mechanics and made a lot of them completely secondary insignificant effects of their combat system. In all but the hardest VR trials mechanics can either be healed through or dps'd through. Roles that required a lot of timing and thinking to accentuate DPS tanks and heals were removed. Classes that had true Crowd control, haste , charming , de buffing ,silencing , buffs that needed to be cast in conjunction with other classes abilities. Lots of combat mechanics were removed or watered down.

Its in large part why Armors were so imbalanced , stamina was in such a poor state for so long, its why tanking is more of a utility role (much better shape then it was though now). the whole game was designed around sustained magica DPS while avoiding red puddle mechanic swith specific gear traits(meta builds). Not saying these people are not skilled they are and spent a long time perfecting rotations gear set up and theory crafting. They are good have excellent reflexes as well. But it left only one style of game play for the community . I left ESO for good a month ago. I tanked and the SOTH dungeons were giving me great hope for the direction of the game. It was short lived with 1 Tam was time to quit bitching the game would not find a balance between traditional group MMO play . they have turned on the slot machine aspect of the game full bore and are now regugitating content that is easy to design with only one role in mind. Not that the trials are not heavily skilled, its just not anything more then DPS , heal, and some Utility side dishes

Maybe the ignore button is the best option.

I can't see how this even bothers anyone. Does someone just put "20k dps" in group chat, every time they kill a boss? I don't think that would be spamming.

Now if they are doing something like:

20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps
20k dps

I can see how that could be annoying. Every dungeon I do, it is never like that.

DPS are posted either to show off.

Or to point out that the other DD has dealt only a fraction of your damage. This is a good indication for the other party members to start thinking of kicking the other guy if he is not performing very well (or dissregard everything and slowly grind the dungeon)

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Because: Everyone wants to be the very best. Like no one ever was, instead of playing the game to have fun

As long as that way of thinking exists, players will continue to be showoffy numskulls.

They will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Each dungeon mechanic to understand, the monster that's inside. DPS, gotta kill em all!

Ozstryker wrote: »

Cos u NEED to know how awesome their numbers are...

My opinion, dps meters ruin MMO's

The people that think this are those that pull crap numbers and want to be carried through.

When someone posts that on the group chat, All I do is stand like a potato and say 'all yours' and go for a 'number 2'.

I find it silly and I don't read it nor do I care. Like @raidentenshu_ESO said if the boss is dead the jobs done. Brag to your friends because the rest of us dgaf.

Glurin wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

Why does it bother you, some people are proud of their abilities and achievements. Are you that insecure that you really get upset when someone posts a simple dps parse in chat? is it really that big of a deal? A lot of times it's common especially for raiders as they do it anyway to show their progress during a raid, a force of habit if you will. On the scale of things anyone should ever give 2 flying f&*ks about in this game tbh this is extremely low. Harden up a bit.

Picture this. You work in an office where the guy in the cubical next to you tells you a joke when he makes a sale. The same joke he told you the last time he made a sale. And the time before that. And the time before that. The same, damn, joke, day after day after day.

It's kinda like that.

Why not just turn it off? If u get that upset over simple dps bosting, guess u might want to consider therapy. Shrug it off, no need to nerd rage over something so pety.

User_Name wrote: »

Some unwillingly funny posts here. People talk about achievements and how how they post numbers to get the praise they feel they deserve...

Hello, it's a computer game where in-game progress is reciprocal to real-life achievements, let's be real.

The only thing it's really got going for it is how strangers from across the world join to solve group content together, and that shared sense of success when completing a task in cooperation with others.

The self-aggrandizing need for individual praise is a pretty much a joke in any computer game, nobody in their right mind really cares, why on earth would they?

It doesn't really matter to me if I spend 10, 30 or 40 minutes on a dungeon as long as I am having fun. I can enjoy a run full of fails lasting 40 minutes a hell of a lot more than an über slick run with appalling people that only takes 10 minutes. At least the run is short though.

I'm not thankful that I can complete it faster, I am thankful for playing alongside nice friendly people. I hope this can put the "please praise me, I really really deserve it" line of thought into perspective. There are a multitude of different ways to enjoy the game, and I feel it's safe to say that you, and your way of enjoying it, is the minority, so why try to impose it on the rest of us? If a DPS is really good, of course people will notice it without DPS-counters, and you know, might even send a high-five your way. But demanding praise by posting numbers is just plain obnoxious...

For those that don't have a virtual life inside MMO-land, it's not about a measure of time invested, its about the measure of fun returned, and I personally believe that's a far more sound approach to gaming. If your idea of fun is speed runs with a pro-group, then join a guild and post numbers all day long for people who appreciates it.

I understand you and respect your opinions and way to play, but the point is, it should be the oposite as well. If elitist gamers have to respect casuals, then casuals have to respect the hardcore interested gamers as well. If you simply dont care if you spend 1 hour or 10 mins in a dungeon, then its another case. But the fact is, most veteran dungeons require more skill then just "play as you want", thats my point.

I told how my dps barely made the boss getting killed in city of ash veteran hardmode. Thats purely a dps race. If you dont have the dps, there wont be more platforms available, end of story. So answer is simple, either you care and work for your achievements, or do normal dungeons or maybe one of the easier veteran dungeons, but dont activate hardmode.

I also want to add some info towards those who talk negative and tell people to go outside and have a life. There really are more behind it then you think. I will go abit personal and take myself as an example. Without telling everything in detail, most of you know what chronic fatigue syndrome is. I have that, and I live very strict life with workout and eating healthy etc. But most of the day, I dont have the energy to go out and be social or work in my garden or visit my family and friends. ESO have actually been a great way for me to be apart of something social while sitting alone at home. It could be worse, I could have just been laying in my beed watching netflix or something and not doing anything at all. But Im able to play eso, and I happend to have slightly higher interest in this game due to that as well, which is why I find it fun to imrpove everyday about dps and group composition. But what I dont like is when casuals come here to complain and tell me to go get outside and get some sun, while they sitting themself inside and writing that nonsense on their own pc.

I also know people who have been playing eso while on the hostipal. Please dont judge other people, get better dps and support if you want to play with other players.. if not... someone mentioned skyrim rework here?

@vamp_emily
.....if I became aware that a group member in my group - have put another player in the group on ignore, I will vote to kick that person... and probably report them for ignoring communication in group content. And put them on my own ignore list to, to not remember their account name and report the guy to my guild-master friends, so they are aware.

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

@vamp_emily
.....if I became aware that a group member in my group - have put another player in the group on ignore, I will vote to kick that person... and probably report them for ignoring communication in group content. And put them on my own ignore list to, to not remember their account name and report the guy to my guild-master friends, so they are aware.

lol @ reporting them like ZOS cares about that. If you aren't threatening someone's life or trolling RPers ZOS doesn't care.

Bragging rights. If you're offended by how good they are, git gud. If you're offended by how bad they are, post your own and shame them into Oblivion.

It's a dog-eat-dog world.