Why do people frequently post up their DPS results on each boss fight?

Wreuntzylla

I post mine over and over again. I like big numbers.

Once I break 10,000, I may post to zone!

peatzaugh

Kram8ion wrote: »

Coz when they skip home from school with there report cards in hand shouting "mummy mummy! I got a gold star!"
She tells them how clever and special they are, gives them a glass of milk, a cookie

Someone's still salty over not ever getting a gold star I see... But seriously, why be so jealous of someone at the top of the game? Maybe instead befriend them, and try to learn something rather than being bitter. Most of the top tier players I know are very helpful, because at one point they were just as clueless and as bad as you.

ArchMikem

SienneYviete wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

Why does it bother you, some people are proud of their abilities and achievements. Are you that insecure that you really get upset when someone posts a simple dps parse in chat? is it really that big of a deal?

That logic goes both ways. Is it REALLY that big a deal for the person to share with everyone else? Especially when most don't even give a heaping pile? Are THEY that insecure that they need other people's validation of what they're proud of?

anitajoneb17_ESO

peatzaugh wrote: »

But seriously, why be so jealous of someone at the top of the game?

You miss the point. It has nothing to do with jealousy or envy.

The point is, if Usain Bolt is running alongside Justin Gatlin, it's normal, if not necessary, to keep a close eye on the timer.
But if he did that on any sunday morning jogger in Central Park... ??? How does that look like ? And why on earth would he do that ?

peatzaugh

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

peatzaugh wrote: »

But seriously, why be so jealous of someone at the top of the game?

You miss the point. It has nothing to do with jealousy or envy.

The point is, if Usain Bolt is running alongside Justin Gatlin, it's normal, if not necessary, to keep a close eye on the timer.
But if he did that on any sunday morning jogger in Central Park... ??? How does that look like ? And why on earth would he do that ?

Way to cherrypick and then make an unrelatable comparison. If you wanted to be a runner and there was Usain next to you in central park, I'd bet you stop to ask him for his advice rather than complain to a forum that he ran to fast and he shouldn't be proud of how fast he is.

Edit: Personally I have befriended many top tier players and met many average players with good attitudes that wanted to improve by posting my dps. I get to raid with several top tier guilds and have helped 20 or so people go from turning 10-15k single target to doing 30k+

Vrienda

Probably in the hope they won't get kicked for perceived underperforming.

Or to flash their E-peen at anyone who'll listen.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

peatzaugh wrote: »

But seriously, why be so jealous of someone at the top of the game?

You miss the point. It has nothing to do with jealousy or envy.

The point is, if Usain Bolt is running alongside Justin Gatlin, it's normal, if not necessary, to keep a close eye on the timer.
But if he did that on any sunday morning jogger in Central Park... ??? How does that look like ? And why on earth would he do that ?

Two things ...

Everyone knows that Bolt had the steed stone equipped but, c'mon. Gatling will never out DPS him even with Divines.

The image of a fat me running through the park and taunting someone for losing a race to me is quite entertaining. 87% chance I would of pulled a hammy by the 65th meter, but if I didn't and I won, oh you better believe someone is getting taunted. Cause I'm fat.

And old.

And petty.

But mostly fat.

SienneYviete

ArchMikem wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

Why does it bother you, some people are proud of their abilities and achievements. Are you that insecure that you really get upset when someone posts a simple dps parse in chat? is it really that big of a deal?

That logic goes both ways. Is it REALLY that big a deal for the person to share with everyone else? Especially when most don't even give a heaping pile? Are THEY that insecure that they need other people's validation of what they're proud of?

Well tbh I don't waste my time playing the pug lottery so don't get grouped with the sort of people that give two sh*$s about me posting a dps parse. I run with guildies that want to do better and will ask for build advice when they see a decent parse thank god. But seriously though why does this affect you so much, is it really that important can you not just ignore it? Tbh all I see in this thread is name calling and straw manning from people that dislike this practice like it really affects them deeply or something, like I said earlier harden up a bit, if such an insignificant thing affects you so much I really feel sorry for you.

sneakymitchell

Enslaved wrote: »

Its good thing to do in pugs, trust me. So many times it simply made some big mouthed ppl realize how much do they contribute compared to what they think they contribute. I don't post it unless its necessary.

And then if someone like me with heavy armor comes in and is close to that DPS then thier is something wrong.

Morbash

ArchMikem wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

Why does it bother you, some people are proud of their abilities and achievements. Are you that insecure that you really get upset when someone posts a simple dps parse in chat? is it really that big of a deal?

That logic goes both ways. Is it REALLY that big a deal for the person to share with everyone else? Especially when most don't even give a heaping pile? Are THEY that insecure that they need other people's validation of what they're proud of?

No, it doesn't go both ways. The people sharing their numbers aren't coming to the forums and creating petty complaint threads.

This is one of those rare times where ZOS' advice is actually sound. The bulk of reports they receive on a daily basis are likely comprised of complaints like these. Now I understand why I receive these automated responses when I'm reporting game-breaking bugs.

The dwellers of Tamriel thank you for taking time from your adventures to report this offense. Maintaining the integrity of the land is a priority. We will investigate this matter and take appropriate action.

To protect individual privacy, we do not disclose the outcome of our investigation.

Please also be aware that you can add players whose behavior you find objectionable to the ignore list. To do this, open your contacts list (default: O) and click on the "No Entry" icon in the upper right corner. Now you have the option to add players. You can also do this by right-clicking on a player's name and choosing "Ignore". Once this is done, messages from the player in question will no longer be able to reach you.

sneakymitchell

DPS can be anything not high crit, high damage, and high stat it's the matter of timing dots, bar switching, and spamming with light of heavy attack weaving.

NativeJoe

When people post their dps, post yours back and edit 1 zero off of it...and say "Dude this game is like golf, lowest number wins"

It's what I do

SienneYviete

Riejael wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

No need to ignore. Copy the format and fake a higher number. They won't believe it, but that's the point. They'll still feel invalidated. A. you posted a bigger number, even if its fake, it steals their thunder. B. It shows how futile posting numbers is.

This isn't WoW where you can compare numbers. So screw with these people a bit. If they complain that you're lying, leave them behind. If they keep talking, tell them that their DPS would be higher if they did less talking and more damage. Large bloated egos are like balloons. Easily popped.

My combat metrics tells me the group damage output and my own so it's pretty easy to tell when people post bulls*#t numbers. This is quite possible the dumbest and saltiest reply in the thread by the way so well done in that regard.

Kram8ion

peatzaugh wrote: »

Kram8ion wrote: »

Coz when they skip home from school with there report cards in hand shouting "mummy mummy! I got a gold star!"
She tells them how clever and special they are, gives them a glass of milk, a cookie

Someone's still salty over not ever getting a gold star I see... But seriously, why be so jealous of someone at the top of the game? Maybe instead befriend them, and try to learn something rather than being bitter. Most of the top tier players I know are very helpful, because at one point they were just as clueless and as bad as you.

Lol it's a simple jest man lighten up
Yours casually
Bad and clueless

ArchMikem

SienneYviete wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

Why does it bother you, some people are proud of their abilities and achievements. Are you that insecure that you really get upset when someone posts a simple dps parse in chat? is it really that big of a deal?

That logic goes both ways. Is it REALLY that big a deal for the person to share with everyone else? Especially when most don't even give a heaping pile? Are THEY that insecure that they need other people's validation of what they're proud of?

Well tbh I don't waste my time playing the pug lottery so don't get grouped with the sort of people that give two sh*$s about me posting a dps parse. I run with guildies that want to do better and will ask for build advice when they see a decent parse thank god. But seriously though why does this affect you so much, is it really that important can you not just ignore it? Tbh all I see in this thread is name calling and straw manning from people that dislike this practice like it really affects them deeply or something, like I said earlier harden up a bit, if such an insignificant thing affects you so much I really feel sorry for you.

Modesty is a virtue. Shoving how good you are into people's faces, which is equal to boasting, is not.

bottleofsyrup

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Because: Everyone wants to be the very best. Like no one ever was, instead of playing the game to have fun

As long as that way of thinking exists, players will continue to be showoffy numskulls.

Why not both? You can have fun and be good at the same time, and it's pretty narrow-minded of you to suggest that people wanting to be their personal best at something aren't having fun.

QUEZ420

Alucardo wrote: »

Gotta show off those e-peens

Beat me to it LUL! Nerds jus gotta stroke that epeen.

Valethar

How else are they going to impress Palmira and Fistina if they don't show off that epeen?

Ozstryker

nordsavage wrote: »

It is what good players do. If you had good dps you would do it. Also to let pugs know I did 80% of the damage by myself. I do love rubbing 35-40k+ no add boss fights in the face of the "meta" hating play your way casuals who need to realize they are being carried. Also it is your resume among other good players for end game networking.

peatzaugh wrote: »

So much salt from poor-average players in this thread. Also worth noting that a good player can turn 25k+ self buffed single target with *** gear, so git gud is very fitting actually.

Actually... In my experience there are two kinds of high end group players.. there seems to be he really good players who employ movement and follow mechanics while clearly doing ample dps, who usually go about their business quietly and efficiently, while offering only pertinent advise when needed....
Then there are the guys who think group content is a competition! these are the ones that think a group is lucky to have them! they feel the need to be like the above quotes, while trolling everyone with numbers and "advise" to stroke their own ego in a vain attempt to finish with a sense of superiority!


Introvert / Extrovert, it's all human nature!

DPShiro

ITT:
Bad players complaining about seeing numbers, because they know they can't achieve the same.

Yet they don't complain when they are being carried through a harder dungeon and are able to skip mechanics or even finish hard mode by the same players.

If the numbers were a part of the games UI and you could easily see everyone contribution what would you complain about then?

Preston

for some people it's about the e-peen, some it's competition between friends, with some people it's because they're new to dps and want the squad to validate/advise them on how to improve.

Synden22

I agree with the OP, I hated this in the WOW game but got inured to it there. It seemed that people did eventually stop doing it there in regular dungeons. On the other hand about that same time, they took to running through at breakneck speeds never saying a word of any kind to each other (I am talking about PUGs of course).

I am an older woman with slow reaction time and I just feel like I'm being criticized when people do the dps meter thing. I am honestly not in the running for epic and very likely never will be. My Mother used to play that game and she's even older, she ended up stopping over people like that (and some even ruder). Bear in mind when you are playing than not everybody around you may be in your league for one reason or another and you could try to be nice about it. You guys act like if you just poke others hard enough they'll toughen up and get better but for kids, elderly or handicapped people that may not always be possible.

At DPShiro: stop believing your own press, you only mash buttons, lol. I did skip hard mode stuff in wow for that reason so and if it was in the UI I would prefer because it would not seem like people were rubbing it in and being egomaniacs, if it was just info.

peatzaugh

Kram8ion wrote: »

peatzaugh wrote: »

Kram8ion wrote: »

Coz when they skip home from school with there report cards in hand shouting "mummy mummy! I got a gold star!"
She tells them how clever and special they are, gives them a glass of milk, a cookie

Someone's still salty over not ever getting a gold star I see... But seriously, why be so jealous of someone at the top of the game? Maybe instead befriend them, and try to learn something rather than being bitter. Most of the top tier players I know are very helpful, because at one point they were just as clueless and as bad as you.

Lol it's a simple jest man lighten up
Yours casually
Bad and clueless

You misunderstand, I wasn't calling you clueless or bad, but referring to the fact that we were all new to the game at some point. "You" was a generalization for the bad player not an insult

Joy_Division

Glurin wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

I care about their numbers.

We just nuked the boss in 25 seconds without breaking a sweat. It is a game and I am competitive. It's pretty much the only challenge good DPS have anymore: against each other.

Also, part of the reason there are good DPS in the first place is because they are constantly cirtical of their own builds and use DPS parses as ways to improve their build and their gameplay.

DPS meters do serve a purpose other than stroking e-peens.

But thank you for assuming we are all egotistical jerks.

If the shoe fits....

Look, nobody has any problem with you using a DPS meter to tweak your build. But if you're constantly posting your numbers for all to see and boasting about how much damage you're doing or harping on everyone else for not "carrying their weight" if they do less damage than you do, then you're going to rub people the wrong way.

Once again thank you for assuming I'm an egotistical jerk and "harping on everyone else for not carrying their weight." I do not. Never did. If someone I feel is not carrying their weight, after the 3rd wipe or something, I will post the boss mechanics and a strategy that has been proven successful in the past.

Instead of assuming, please read what I actually posted: "I care about their numbers." (i,e, I didn't say I post, I said I care about their posts). And, apparently you have a problem with using a DPS meter to tweak builds. DPS meters require context and other players' DPS is a critical component of that context. Which is why I care about reading them.

OrphanHelgen

Synden22 wrote: »

I agree with the OP, I hated this in the WOW game but got inured to it there. It seemed that people did eventually stop doing it there in regular dungeons. On the other hand about that same time, they took to running through at breakneck speeds never saying a word of any kind to each other (I am talking about PUGs of course).

I am an older woman with slow reaction time and I just feel like I'm being criticized when people do the dps meter thing. I am honestly not in the running for epic and very likely never will be. My Mother used to play that game and she's even older, she ended up stopping over people like that (and some even ruder). Bear in mind when you are playing than not everybody around you may be in your league for one reason or another and you could try to be nice about it. You guys act like if you just poke others hard enough they'll toughen up and get better but for kids, elderly or handicapped people that may not always be possible.

If I understood you correctly, you are getting offended by people posting dps, because it shows a level you will never be able to reach yourself? Kind of selfish if you ask me. To expect people to adjust themself to your level. Its exactly what you guys telling those with high dps post to do. You are telling them to respect you and not post, and I also read on this forum that they should'nt speed through a dungeon because others might wanna take their time. Now, lets turn it to the oposite. Im talking about stepping out of your own selfish bouble. Why is it right that the hardcore gamers have to adjust. Why cant those "casual low dps take your time" players adjust as well? Why is it so bad to actually respect a good player as well as trying to improve yourself? Im again talking about veteran content. If all this discussion are about a normal dungeon, then Im actually agree its stupid af to post and make people feel bad. But again, veteran content... its kind of hard with 4 casuals. Sorry for my honesty.

Im not a kid myself, and I have my handicaps too. Im very colorblind, and many stuff in the game, is almost impossible for me to do.

What I do then is:

1: Do normal instead of vet
2: Do with close friends only, and make sure they know about your weakness.
3: Make solution, not problem. An example here is the 2n boss in vmol, the twins. I had insane difficult there due to my colorblindness. But if I want to complete it, I have to find a way to do it as well, it doesnt help complaining that "this is not on my level of playing, pls adjust to me". Now I can do that boss without dying, allthough I sometimes still dies on a mistake colorswap. Not sure if bug or my eyes, I swear I had white color

What NOT to do in general:

1: Queue with 3 pugs for veteran city of ash, craddle of shadow etc where you need dps, but you are too lazy or cheap to make your staff legendary.
2: go selfish setups like recovery and self heal as a DD, or 40k ressistance 40k hp tank with corrosive armor
3: Get offended if you are getting carried. Becasue 90% of the players completing a veteran dungeon could not do it if it was 4 of you. Be happy instead that there is players out there with such interest and knowledge that its possible to carry players through it. If posting some high numbers is what it takes to make them do that dung with you, then let them do that and move on.


To sum up. If you want players on your own level, play content based on your level as well.

Kalinblack

Becouse they don't know how to move and play and it helps their ego to don't fall down ^^ Something like "I've a bigger **** that I don't know how to use"

Drummerx04

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

HatchetHaro wrote: »

Bragging rights. If you're offended by how good they are, git gud. If you're offended by how bad they are, post your own and shame them into Oblivion.

It's a dog-eat-dog world.

Like I said before. Am I suppose to bake them some cookies for their "bragging rights?" How would you feel if you were busting your ass off for weeks and possible months grinding vMA for that sharpen inferno staff, and yet some player who happen to play vMA once manage to get the inferno staff on the first try? You wouldn't feel so good knowing that someone is rubbing it in your face?

Also the "git gud" is irreverent in this game considering the fact that your DPS consist of having good gear, and that good gear consist of grinding a particular dungeon/Trials until the cows come home.

This game doesn't require skills... it requires grinding gears that happens to have good traits in them... like the sharpen inferno staff from vMA.

[...]

As one also looking for a vMA staff, I can say it feels pretty bad.

However, I don't have one (only adds 1-2k damage if your rotation is perfect), AND I don't have optimal gear on top of that for magsorc (Julianos+willpower+illambris+setless staff is my setup), and I'm a breton so I don't really have any racial passives boosting my damage besides the max mag, but I still pull anywhere from 25-35k dps depending on how much the bosses are moving and what sort of buffs I'm getting from the group.

So basically, you can get pretty solid numbers without grinding for the absolute best gear in the game. You can literally craft yourself most gear and still do quite well for yourself, yet many people don't, and people like you seem to assume that if you don't have all the best gear then why even bother trying to improve yourself because skill clearly doesn't matter, right?

CultOfMMO

@raidentenshu_ESO

you mention insecurity in every post but I can't help but feel like you're the most insecure person in this thread. Are you sure you're annoyed by the DPS numbers? Sounds to me like you're threatened, like you look at that number and you know it's unattainable to you. You're probably one of those guys who never installed a dps addon, clears content by getting carried, and then always judge your character progression on "content cleared" alone. Sure at the end of the day the boss is dead, but you didn't do jack *** and you should feel like ***. Does that sound about right? be honest with yourself.

if that doesn't sound right, and you're actually legitimately a competent player, well then good for you and stop being annoyed by such insignificant things.


@Ozstryker

As for you, you're probably the reason why ppl think they can get away with spamming bow light atk. DPS meters have never destroyed MMO, it establishes a healthy baseline, something that ESO is in desperate need of. As a long time WoW player, that game only ever had good players and average players, whereas ESO has good, average, and plz just uninstall. Guess where the majority of ESO players lie in those 3 categories.

Artis

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

OK so you got addons that records your DPS... good for you.... Are you that egotistical to actually believe that the rest of the world cares for what number you get for each boss kills? Jesus get over yourself! Nobody cares what high number you get. Just play the damn game already and quit spamming the chat with your nonsense junk.

I think I'm going to start using the ignore button.

Exactly, get over yourself. People post numbers for themselves, so that later they can scroll up and see their DPS on a certain fight. And yes, a lot of people care about numbers. I don't mind it when they post them so I know how my DPS compares to theirs.

There are people who don't care about what you have to say about politics or see your RP in chat, still they are not trying to shut you up. If you don't like something, indeed, use the ignore button.

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Well, posting your dps in chat is an easy way to save it and analyze it after you're done with the dungeon. Or would you prefer it if your group mates would stop after every boss fight to write down their dps manually?

You can also take a screenshot of your progression. It gets stored on your hard drive without irritating others of your spam in chat.

YEah why would I do that? IT's much more convenient for me to post them and then scroll up, then alt -tab and look for a screenshot folder.

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

This game doesn't require skills... it requires grinding gears that happens to have good traits in them... like the sharpen inferno staff from vMA.

THat's bs. If you can't weave - the staff won't help you. If you can't avoid damage - the staff won't help you. If you can't manage resources - the staff won't help you.

CosmicSoul wrote: »

I cannot stand the term git gud, first of all it looks immature, yea I get it comes from dark souls but not everyone plays it or cares for it. And the git gud does not even make sense in a gear based game anyways, what you mean is git gear.

Once again, absolutely wrong. Why would you even say that? Don't you know that people in the same gear won't perform the same? Give me all the gear one of those pvp-video authors have - and I'll never be able to kill anyone anyway. Follow one of the guides for pve dps , still won't be able to show the same numbers.

It's not just about gear. It's about skill, it's about teamwork and synergy. It's also about hardware and FPS

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

So... shortly said... you confirm it's a pure ego thing aimed at showing the "good players" ' "awesomeness" by trying to make "less good players" feel small... ???
Actually, you confirm the OP's intuition.
Besides, resumes are for jobs, this is a game. Of course you're free to take the game as you want, but that doesn't mean you're entitled to judge others who take it more lightly, more cooperatively and less competitively.
also : pro-tip : if you don't want to pull 80% of the DPS by yourself nor to carry people... don't PUG !!!

Lol are you autistic or something? Everyone understood what he means. Yes, it's a game. So what? Yes they still won't let you join a good trials group without knowing that you're good. So yes, you do need a "resume".
He doesn't confirm anything and stop putting words in other people's mouths.

Glurin wrote: »

. But if you're constantly posting your numbers for all to see and boasting about how much damage you're doing or harping on everyone else for not "carrying their weight" if they do less damage than you do, then you're going to rub people the wrong way.

Their feelings is their problem, though, no? I mean, he never complained about other player's pointless chit-chat or RP or whatever. He probably doesn't care how your day was or what you think about something or what you're doing right now. But you do post stuff in chat without asking every single reader what they think about it, right? (they probably don't want you to ask them too, then what would you do..). So yeah, he's has the right to use his freedom of speech, too.

cpuScientist

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

DannyLV702 wrote: »

This one must not have high deeps

You're wrong

Oh yea then post it!