Who should be the one to rez the dead?

CowNRB · November 2016

in a 4 man group who should be the one to res? From my understanding it goes dps 1st then tank then heals but i have been told healer should res 1st (If they are a Templar because of a passive) is that true or was my understanding right?

AtraisMachina · November 2016

No DDs rez obviously tank and heals dont have a replacement for there skills where as there are 2 DDs. Think about it. If your tank rezes you can lose agro and get wiped. If heals rez and theres high damage output you can wipe. Where as a DD rez you just take longer to kill what ever it is ur killin

AtraisMachina · November 2016

Same for 12 man groups

IrishGirlGamer · November 2016

When I heal I rez if I can, since I have the passive. If I am DPS, I rez if I can because it's good for the team.

If someone is down, I'll try to help them. I generally don't wait for someone else.

negbert · November 2016

My templar healer wear Kag so it takes next to no time. Set up mutagen and ritual before so there is still ongoing healing.

Silver_Strider · November 2016

99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer

Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.

vonScuzzman · November 2016

I can rez with my healer, but it is situational. Never sacrifice healing the living to pick up the dead.

AtraisMachina · November 2016

negbert wrote: »

My templar healer wear Kag so it takes next to no time. Set up mutagen and ritual before so there is still ongoing healing.

Most heals dont wear krags anymore. Thats a waste of a set when min maxin healers

WalksonGraves · November 2016

As long as the ta

Silver_Strider wrote: »

99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer

Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.

God no, tank only rezzes when everyone else is dead. If the tank loses aggro because they were rezzing someone other people die. Basically whoever is closest who isn't busy tanking.

Dps> healer> tank

code65536 · November 2016

The only rule for who should rez is: whoever makes the most sense for the situation. I've done it as DPS, as tank, and as healer. Every situation is different, and you should make a judgement call instead of following a rule.

AtraisMachina · November 2016

WalksonGraves wrote: »

As long as the ta

Silver_Strider wrote: »

99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer

Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.

God no, tank only rezzes when everyone else is dead. If the tank loses aggro because they were rezzing someone other people die. Basically whoever is closest who isn't busy tanking.

Dps> healer> tank

I would agree with this in 12mans but most 4 man events i would say contrary

Iselin · November 2016

WalksonGraves wrote: »

As long as the ta

Silver_Strider wrote: »

99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer

Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.

God no, tank only rezzes when everyone else is dead. If the tank loses aggro because they were rezzing someone other people die. Basically whoever is closest who isn't busy tanking.

Dps> healer> tank

It's a lot easier for the tank to rez while getting beat on by the boss and adds while the healer keeps him healed. You're wrong. DPS > tank >healer

ArchMikem · November 2016

I'd say the Damage Dealers foremost. The Tank is too important since it's their job to keep the badness away from the Healer so the Healer can continue keeping everyone alive without worrying about their own safety. If the Tank goes down then the DDs I believe should draw Aggro as much as possible so the Healer can get the Tank back up.

FriedEggSandwich · November 2016

I guess it depends who dies but it seems logical that the dps do it as there are more of them, preferably the one with a 25k 6s ward that can be cast before rezzing.

idk · November 2016

Who should rez really depends. Ideally it would be a dps. In a 4 man group if both DPS are down it would be a toss up between tank or healer. Tank could be overwhelmed at the time and the healer is really a glorified DPS in most 4 man content.

Essentially a good healer should be able to rez if needed and would be able to determine when it is best to rez. The tank is in the same position though has to deal with direct damage.

While some say the tank is next in line to rez if both dps are down, this is short sighted in most cases since the tank should he able to survive for more than a few seconds without heals giving the upper hand to the healer in this situation.

Cryptical · November 2016

As the variety of opinions shows, it depends.

Dps, then tossup between healer and tank, depending on a number of variables.

Like, how badly is the tank getting pounded? Are there adds wandering around? Is the boss in a one-shot phase? Is the boss in a phase where springs and regen and retribution outheal the damage?

WalksonGraves · November 2016

Iselin wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

As long as the ta

Silver_Strider wrote: »

99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer

Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.

God no, tank only rezzes when everyone else is dead. If the tank loses aggro because they were rezzing someone other people die. Basically whoever is closest who isn't busy tanking.

Dps> healer> tank

It's a lot easier for the tank to rez while getting beat on by the boss and adds while the healer keeps him healed. You're wrong. DPS > tank >healer

If you can't survive longer than 6 seconds without being healed you need to rethink your build. Healers generally rez the fastest and it's their primary job, they should have plenty of time to do it if the tank is keeping the dps from getting hit. Unless it's a dps race/adds are spawning dps can take a second to do it. Only time you get a rez from me is if the boss is in a really long animation and there is nothing to taunt.

Stupid part about this is you expect a tank who has aggro and is unable to block during rez to just hope nothing uses an interrupt. That leads to wasted time and wipes.

Browiseth · November 2016

The second DPS. They're not doing anything important

Cazic · November 2016

DPS should always be the first to rez. If DPS can't, then healer. Basically if the tank tries to rez he'll lose aggro and more people will die.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · November 2016

If there is no communication in the group, then the DPS should always assume it's their job to res. If there is, then when someone drops, you assess the situation. If it is safe for the healer to res, they absolutely should do it. If they are a templar, it will be faster and the fallen will come back with more resources. If it's not safe, then it's the DPS's Job. If two people or more are down, then both healer and DPS should be trying to res. Things generally have to be pretty out of hand for the tanks to be res'ing.

I remember a situation one time with a pug group. The Tank went down and the boss immediately one-shotted the other DPS. I was on a sorc, so I started shield spam tanking the boss. I was able to hold the boss for about a minute, but the other healer wouldnt res (no mic). After we eventually wiped, I asked why they didnt res. They said it's not the healers job, which in that situation was 100% false.

code65536 · November 2016

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Things generally have to be pretty out of hand for the tanks to be res'ing.

If someone dies near me, and the boss is the kind of boss that hits like a wet noodle, I'll res as the tank.

If the boss is actually dangerous, then, yea, the tank would typically be the last one to res.

Everything is situational.

Astanphaeus · November 2016

Just to reiterate what has already been stated, usually it would be DPS>Healer>Tank, but it is situational. There are many bosses where the tanks presence is actually completely pointless, in which case tank should be rezzing first.

heyjrey · November 2016

As a main DPS, I know it's my job to rez the dead. Even if I'm not even in a 4-man group, or if i'm in cyrodiil for that matter. I see dead player, I go rez them.

Now if both of your DPS are dead, then I believe tank should try to rez one of the dead DPS and once they revive, they should rez the other DPS so the tank can continue tanking.

Now if both DPS and Tank is down, lord help us because unless your healer is wearing that one set that speeds up rez's or has those PVP battle rez's down-pack, you're probably screwed (depending on the boss, dungeon, and difficulty level).

But yeah, DPS's should be doing the rez's since you've got two of them. And plus, everyone should have some type of self-heals going on haha (this is coming from a stamblade who is squishy af btw)

Khaos_Bane · November 2016

I play a 650+ CP Temp Healer and DK Tank. DPS should get used to rezzing, period. As a healer I keep the DPS alive as they are rezing so it's not the best idea that a healer rez. Often times as a Tank I don't have an issue Rezing, but it really depends on what boss is being tanked.

DPS should be rezing the majority of the time.

P3ZZL3 · November 2016

Call them a noob > Yell about red dots > Laugh > Express False Sympathy > DD > Tank > Healer

SolarCat02 · November 2016

Usually, dps. But there are exceptions.

If it's just mechanics heavy but not a lot of damage being taken by the group, or if they are fairly self sustaining and only need my healer for buffs and emergencies, I have no problem doing the rez.

If the person died under the boss, there's not a ton of adds, and there aren't interrupts to worry about (to or from the boss/adds) then tank can refresh taunts and rez easily.

Most other cases, it's the dps.

If it's a hectic fight I still try to help with the rez by locating the body and standing over it to help the other dps find it in the mess. My positioning as healer is more flexible usually, and my job already involves watching the "big picture" of the fight (and so frequently I know where the person is anyway), so hunting for friendly corpses isn't much of a strain provided they were standing somewhere reasonable.

Junipus · November 2016

PvP - everyone.
4-man PvE - DPS, then tank, then healer with the exception of DSA then it's DPS, healer, tank.
12-man PvE - DPS, then healer. Never tank with the exception of some bosses.

Normally there's 1-2 templar dps in a group so they're given the task of ressing. Failing that its magblades or the off-tank due to the lower dps.

Reverb · November 2016

WalksonGraves wrote: »

As long as the ta

Silver_Strider wrote: »

99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer

Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.

God no, tank only rezzes when everyone else is dead. If the tank loses aggro because they were rezzing someone other people die. Basically whoever is closest who isn't busy tanking.

Dps> healer> tank

I dont know what you're on about. You don't lose aggro when you rez. Unless dragging the boss(es) over to your fallen comrade will wipe the group, it's perfectly reasonable to reapply the taunt then block-res while the boss beats on you and the healer keeps you up.

Should be DPS>Tank>Healer, 99% of the time, as stated above.

For the record, I rez all the time on my tank while holding aggro. I prefer that to stopping all dps to rez, which just makes the fight go longer, which strains everybody's resources.

WalksonGraves · November 2016

Reverb wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

As long as the ta

Silver_Strider wrote: »

99% of the time
DPS > Tank > Healer

Exceptions come about or there are opportunities in which the healer/tank can safely rez without it being a risk to do so in which case it's fine for them to do it but it shouldn't be the norm or expected.

God no, tank only rezzes when everyone else is dead. If the tank loses aggro because they were rezzing someone other people die. Basically whoever is closest who isn't busy tanking.

Dps> healer> tank

I dont know what you're on about. You don't lose aggro when you rez. Unless dragging the boss(es) over to your fallen comrade will wipe the group, it's perfectly reasonable to reapply the taunt then block-res while the boss beats on you and the healer keeps you up.

Should be DPS>Tank>Healer, 99% of the time, as stated above.

For the record, I rez all the time on my tank while holding aggro. I prefer that to stopping all dps to rez, which just makes the fight go longer, which strains everybody's resources.

You don't lose aggro when you rez, you lose aggro if you get interrupted rezzing (because no *** you have aggro) and you try a second time you have lost about 10 seconds and now have 5 seconds to reapply taunt. Normally not an issue but during an intense boss fight it can be, either way healers have less going on and the passives to do it.

Rune_Relic · November 2016

IMHO
Yeah..tank rezzes when he is last man standing.
Tank needs to get the healer up and recover agro...and have enough mojo to be last man standing and still do that.
Which is why I have enough health for boss one shot and massive health regen to suck up the adds beating on me.
My build is designed around massive regen....others arent.
DKs can root hose adds and move out the way of the grief to rezz others....not so easy with an NB without cloaking if it works.
Healer needs to get the DD up and add resources.
DDs need to get the excessive add pressure off the tank and/or healer...while tank can keep the boss busy.

NB. Some sets make rezzing very easy and quick....it wont necessarily be the tank wearing such gear.

Skayaq · November 2016

Necromancy is bad, no one should res the dead.