If all you do is grind xp for cp you will be lacking skill points. If you play the main quests and zone quests, do the quests inside dungeons, collect skyshards and rank up in pvp, you will have enough points for multiple combat lines and crafting.

Sigtric wrote: »

If all you do is grind xp for cp you will be lacking skill points. If you play the main quests and zone quests, do the quests inside dungeons, collect skyshards and rank up in pvp, you will have enough points for multiple combat lines and crafting.

Multiple or All ?

All my now 10 fully levelled chars have at least 250 skill points.

The ones I mainly play sit around 300.

All of them have at least two crafts, 3 weapons, 2 armor types, either mage or fighters guild, all class skills, both support and attack pvp skill lines, race skills, most have either vampire or werewolf, odd points in legerdemain, thieves guild, dark brotherhood, undaunted. I usually have about 5 unallocated points sitting there for future skills or skill lines.

There are more than enough skill points in game. The cost factor is only on regards to changing skill morphs between pvp and pve, something that can be done by resetting morphs only, which is below 3k in my cases. And this can't be reduced by adding more skill points.

You won't have skill points to literally unlock everything. I think the numbers are around ~500 unlockable skill and morphs for something like ~350 skill points.

But you do have enough points to do most of this things.

My main is a healer with every profession leveled up and unlocked. I still completely leveled all my class skills, Dual Wield, Destruction Staff, Resto Staff and am halfway through Sword and Shield. I'm max Light Armor and on my way to max Heavy Armor.

I think the last time I respeced I had something like 280 points. That is after doing skyshard hunting, missing only a few in Imperial City and Sweers and two behind enemy gates.

But I still haven't done Silver, Gold and a bunch of public dungeons.

So, again, you can't have every single single skill and morph, but if you do skill point hunting you can basically have everything you need for a very flexible build.

All right, now I saw that your post was actually asking if we SHOULD not if we COULD...

So, my answer is no.

If you can max out everything, a lot of tough choices that makes the game interesting are removed, making it a little more dumb.

Personally, I think there are too many skill points.

I tend to specialize skills, which means that I only take what I need for my current build. I leave the rest sitting there, unused. If I want to change my build, I spend the few thousand gold to reset everything, and repeat. Again, spending only what is necessary for that build.

Deevo191 wrote: »

Cherryblossom wrote: »

Not actually checked how many in total I have on my Healer, but I have 120 sitting doing nothing!

she's a Vamp with all passives and Mages, fighters, DW, S&B, Resto and Destruction passives and skills I require.

max level crafting Blacksmith, clothing, woodworking, Alchemy, cooking and nearly max Enchanting.

I think you just need to concentrate on what you want to use.

TBH I don't even think about her skill points, however my tank I need to go pick up the skyshards from the other two factions and PVP, although I've got 5 free points on him. So I think at the end of the day if you think about what you actually need then it's not a huge issue.

I'm a very casual player and just want tp be able to do everything with one character rather than make 5 accounts to get the best flexibility in each,
Ie, I want to focus or stam and magic and be able to craft the sets for the same. And also put points into vampirism and PVP :c, I don't mind the time it takes but I cannot put the work times 8 for each characters

I basically have that.

As I said, I maxed all professions. I have Destro + Resto for PvE, Dual Wield maxed because it used to be better for PvE, and Sword and Shield for PvP.

Light Armor for PvE, Heavy for PvP.

Bunch of Assalt and Support skills for PvP.

All class skills.

I'm not a min/maxer but my Templar can solo DPS quests, heal PvE, heal PvP. With less than 300 skill points you can have a character that does A LOT.

Maybe not the best optimised one, but a good overall one still.

I have friends that have only 1 character and they are master crafters and all.

There are over three hundred skill points available in game and you can respect skill points to change your build.

I have friends who when making a new character max out all the skill lines and morph all skills both ways so that they can switch on a whim, but that takes some dedication.

You can do all crafts on one character and pick the weapon lines for either stam/magicka weapons, plus alliance skills and guild skills. I have that and I'm not done getting all skill points yet.

Places to get skill points:

- Skyshards (there are about 15 skyshards per normal zone, so that's 5 skill points)
- Leveling (you get 64 skill points by leveling to 50)
- Public Dungeons Group Challenges (16 in the normal zones, plus the 2 in Orsinium)
- Group Dungeon quests (each dungeon quest gives you 1 skill point, with separate skill points for Dungeon I and Dungeon II where applicable, so about 28?)
- Leveling Alliance rank in PvP: Each rank gives you 1 skill point. Early ranks are pretty easy to get. Later ones require some dedication.

Deevo191 wrote: »

At the end of the day I think it's safe to say post lvl 50, skill points are hard to obtain. Then we have the grind to CP561,

I'm a magic sorc , also I'm a vampire and I am trying to save up points to unlock woodworking and blacksmithing to 10 in crafting, I'm chucking provisioning altogether since it's a pain to get points. Now what makes it more dissapointing is apparently we have to pay like 10k to keep switching between what skills you want everytime?

. It took me a while to just get to CP 240 on my main. I really am intrigued by the viper set and bows but I've heard people say there are not enough skill points for every thing.

Granted I do realise there is a way to re-skill what you want in each areas main city, but at the cost of losing something else?

Anyways what is your opinion?

as a crafter who does all crafting on 1 toon plus actually play the same toon, you are looking at doing all 3 alliance zones, coldharbor, all dlcs, all skyshards in pvp zones and then choose skills very wisely on which ones your taking and what passives you get if you looking to unlock all crafting on 1 toon and actually use it as well.

Only my main crafter has a skill point problem, because I maxed out every craft. It's a Magicka Sorc, so I skipped a lot of the stamina skills, but did max out bow and DW. Add weapon ultimates and it's getting close. I have about 4 unused skill points and 20 shards left in the entire game. I've done basically every quest. My other characters have a ton of available skill points.

Sigtric wrote: »

Stole this from a post on reddit:

Each class has three skill trees with 20 points each, so sixty points for all your class skills.
There are three armor trees with 13 points each, so now we are up to 99 points.
There are six weapon trees with 20 points each, so now we are at 219.
Each race's skill trees take 9 points. (the xp bonus passive is free) so now we have 228 points.
There are three possible world skill trees (you must choose between vamp and ww) Legerdemain has 20 points, soul magic has 10, and vamp/ww have 16 points bringing our total to 274.
Fighters and Mages guilds each have 19 points and the Undaunted line has 14. Bringing our total to 307
Next, there are two PvP lines with 12 points each bringing the total to 331.
Finally we have crafting. The 3 equipment crafts have 25 points each, Enchanting has 22, Provisioning has 24, and Alchemy has 19.
There are a grand total of 471 skills to spend points on, give or take. According to the skill page on UESP, there are 324 skill points available.

I'm saying, why not spread out the remaining 147 skill points ?

You literally can have enough skills to use almost anything.

Now there are trade-offs but my main has all crafting skills, light armor, rejuv, destruct, all class skills, racial, and a mix of 4 guilds

You just have to do the quests and shards, and group dungeons, trials and public dungeons.
Takes time but if you need skills, there are over 300 now and I dont even have them all...as well as I don't pvp much at all so i'm missing at least 1 3rd of Cyrodil and IC shards, as well as the skill points from leveling PvP up

Deevo191 wrote: »

At the end of the day I think it's safe to say post lvl 50, skill points are hard to obtain. Then we have the grind to CP561,

I'm a magic sorc , also I'm a vampire and I am trying to save up points to unlock woodworking and blacksmithing to 10 in crafting, I'm chucking provisioning altogether since it's a pain to get points. Now what makes it more dissapointing is apparently we have to pay like 10k to keep switching between what skills you want everytime?

. It took me a while to just get to CP 240 on my main. I really am intrigued by the viper set and bows but I've heard people say there are not enough skill points for every thing.

Granted I do realise there is a way to re-skill what you want in each areas main city, but at the cost of losing something else?

Anyways what is your opinion?

At the moment , you can obtain about 360 something skill points. You can max out your 3 native trees , at least 2 weapon skill lines , sould magic ,either mages or fighters guild , undaunted skills , full vampire or ww line , and still have more than enough skill points left to level at least 3 professions to full.

The skill points come from the main and faction story quests , along with the shyshards , PVP and dungeon quests. It might take some time to get that amount of points , but really there is no rush.

I got them all except pvp ranks.. and I can guarantee you that if you're not an hardcore pvper.. you won't have them all. Grand Overlord is simply reserved for this category of players.. (and I'm rank 27/50) ..

Consider that 320/330 is the max for an "achiever".