A broken clock is right twice a day

Jaronking wrote: »

Nahhh NB was right about cloak you know why because it doesn't work.Heavy armor is broken as heck Heavy armor shouldn't give you damage if your in heavy your not a DPs and shouldn't do as much damage as me in medium.

To be fair, cloak was always buggy.

Heavy armor isn't broken, and it's nice now that it's not pigeonholed into a damage-less tank role. The damage buffs are meaningful but still much weaker the light/medium buffs. The sustain buffs to heavy armor is more thematic and fun than the old block cost reduction. Don't tell me that the 3%-4% damage boost from Wraith is OP.

Now, proc sets are another matter, and it's those sets, combined with survivability of heavy armor that most people have problems with. But there, heavy armor is doing exactly what it's supposed to do -- add survivability. I do think that the monster helm proc sets needs to be toned down though, or ideally add some sort of tell so that they can be avoided/blocked.

Yeah umm no I can't with a good conscience sorry . I wish I could but I can't . It's just not true .

Minalan wrote: »

Dark deal? Awesome?

Maybe if you're a stam Sorc block-casting it with 36K stamina backing you up.

The rest of us think that the long channel is both asinine and suicidally lethal in a fight.

You can't block cast a channel ability... Dark Deal is pretty damn awesome but it does have it's counters (but no one seems to realize for some reason).

I agree on heavy armor. The sustain is good, the survivability is good and the damage is where it should be. Remember Wrath stacks for 6 seconds and you must be getting hit REALLY often to get the full 200 spell/weapon damage buff. In most situations you're not taking 10 attacks per 6 seconds. In a 1vX you are yes, but 200 damage is not that great compared to the 5k penetration from light armor or the 12% from medium armor.

Elemental rage is bugged AF in PvE, it bugs you out of all your skills and you can't weave at all. In PvP, Eye of the Storm is pretty OP to be honest though. If you aren't a magicka build with shields or if you can't get away, its done.

2H ultimate is probably as bad as the resto staff one... Useless.

Surge is indeed amazing now for magicka and stamina sorcerers.

Shield duration is fine in my opinion though. Haven't had too many issues with it.

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Elemental rage is bugged AF in PvE, it bugs you out of all your skills and you can't weave at all. I

Yep, bugs me out and prevents all weaving until I transition zone. I would say it is far worse than worthless as it not only doesn't do very impressive damage but also breaks all the rest of my ability to do damage. It is the new, very special, self nerfing ultimate. I have talked to some who do not have this problem but I have it on all the toons I have tried the ulti on every time.

I can't speak to any of the PVP stuff but, on the good side of PVE I would add:
1) There is now a wide variety of interesting BOP and BOE gear dropping from both dungeons and overworld quest content.
2) Content scaling is just really great. You can actually do everything and it is scaled so you get XP, meaningfull drops, and some gold.
3) vMA dual weild was nerfed some.
4) Um, you may have noticed that even after the crit surge and sheild duration nerf, mag sorcs are still getting it done. They ok.
5) Some fun events.


On the bad side:

1) The BIS magica dps set drops from COA1 in non-vet. Um, don't you think maybe infal or moondancer should perhaps be BIS at more than 3 pieces. It reminds me of the whole martial knowledge, a green set that dropped max level only from cyrodiil chests is BIS days. Get it right.
2) Those ground cast skills are not really fixed insta cast. Hit the healing springs button twice, oh no, your stuck at half cast and your breath didn't go off. Your buddy is now dead. So sad.
3) Magi blades need some dps love. They have 1 class DOT worth using, relentless is redundant with combat prayer, and their class ground dot, twisting path, is actually a dps loss to run as well as having a duration totally different than all the other DOT's that they are running. No redundancy on relentless, and change twisting to 8 sec and buff it.
4) Do you really think a stam sorc heal crit should tick for 5.5k. and a magi sorc one for 2.5k. Just saying, that may be a little big on the stam sorc tick. I mean they aren't even running vigor in vMA.

annnnnddddd......
# everything) Lets face it, you still have a huge cheat engine problem. I have been looking at some vids of some of your best buddies. I don't really think a non crit wall of the elements tick can legitimately get to 5.6k. Do you? Sure, you don't have guys doing vMA in 20min with infinite meteor builds anymore but I think much of your dps creep of late has more to do with cheat engine making a comeback than the new, marginally better, sets. Y'all got a lot of work to do on that software to catch the baddies and you need to be very careful when it comes to scaling as I think many of the folks who you sit in stream with and congratulate are pulling one over on you. Letting all those banned guys back in opened back up the flood gates. People are willing to take risks again. Basically you stated, if you try to hide what you are doing, we are cool with it.

I'll put it the way I put it too my dad when we used to argue about Lance Armstrong. He said there is no way he is doping with all the tests the French, who don't like him, run on him. I said, every year he beats all the guys they catch for doping. Do you really think he is crushing the best dopers in the word without himself cheating? I am just saying.

dagonbeer wrote: »

We love to rag on the mechanics team but there were things where I think they were right, and general forum consensus was wrong. Now some of these were amended in the very last iteration before it went live, but I think they should still be commended for getting it down. (Just specific issues here, not looking at something as broad as general stam/mag disparity)

• Heavy armor changes - I think they're in a good place now, PvP-wise. Black rose can probably stand to have one max stamina changed to max magicka, if only for parity for mag classes. As for PvE, tanking was always more about positioning and fight mechanics than stats anyway, wasn't a big deal.
  There is almost no reason to use medium now in PvP unless you're ganking. They basically reversed block nerfs in PvE with changes to sturdy.
  
• Dark deal - it did turn out to be decently awesome.
  True, but mostly because of how well DD and Stam Sorc in general synergizes with the heavy armor meta.
  
• Cloak related changes - bugs aside, it wasn't the doom that many nbs foretold.
  It was a large part of what killed melee magblade. Stamblades and Sorcblades don't actually need cloak.
  
• 2H ultimate - wasn't that OP after all.
  Seems good on paper, but in reality too high risk, and losing your ult as a tool for initial burst isnt worth it.
  
• Destro ultimate - wasn't that UP after all.
  It was until they doubled the damage per tick.
  
• Surge - I still prefer the old for magsorcs, but new surge's not half bad.
  You rarely need surge anyway.
  

On the flip side, here's where I think the forum consensus ended up being right:

• weapon trait changes - Sharpened or bust. See prices/demand/availability/usage for proof. When a weapon drops, we have a 8/9 chance of being disappointed.
  Defending is good depending on the context, but in general yeah.
  
• Shield changes - Guess this is contentious, but if nothing else the duration is every bit as annoying as feared. Not fun.
  This was effectively a damage nerf by requiring more sustain and more frequent recasting of shields. But we have the destro ult now, so...
  

dagonbeer wrote: »

We love to rag on the mechanics team but there were things where I think they were right, and general forum consensus was wrong. Now some of these were amended in the very last iteration before it went live, but I think they should still be commended for getting it down. (Just specific issues here, not looking at something as broad as general stam/mag disparity)

• Heavy armor changes - I think they're in a good place now, PvP-wise. Black rose can probably stand to have one max stamina changed to max magicka, if only for parity for mag classes. As for PvE, tanking was always more about positioning and fight mechanics than stats anyway, wasn't a big deal.
• Dark deal - it did turn out to be decently awesome.
• Cloak related changes - bugs aside, it wasn't the doom that many nbs foretold.
• 2H ultimate - wasn't that OP after all.
• Destro ultimate - wasn't that UP after all.
• Surge - I still prefer the old for magsorcs, but new surge's not half bad.

On the flip side, here's where I think the forum consensus ended up being right:

• weapon trait changes - Sharpened or bust. See prices/demand/availability/usage for proof. When a weapon drops, we have a 8/9 chance of being disappointed.
• Shield changes - Guess this is contentious, but if nothing else the duration is every bit as annoying as feared. Not fun.

Something needs to be done to nirnhoned. The hardest to get trait in the game isn't top tier. Maybe leave sharpened alone and give nirn more damage. Or perhaps nirn on weapons and armor improves the defense and damage output so it would be a better choice but be very expensive. It just seems that it is currently shortchanged.

Wrobel, you're fooling no one. Stop hacking old forum accounts and come Cyrodiil.