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Would You Still Play If There Was No Grind?
Ch4mpTW
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As a common theme in this game, you are basically forced to grind for end-game gear. While dealing with ridiculous varieties of RNG. The supporting arguement to this is often said that people wouldn't play, if there was no need to grind. So I'm curious. Would you still play ESO, if there no grind for end-game gear?
Edited by Ch4mpTW on November 8, 2016 4:04PM Would You Still Play If There Was No Grind? 306 votes
No, because...
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57 votes
Yes, because...
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Maybe, because...
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It makes no difference, because...
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Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because...I voted yes, because having the gear I want means I can actually go about doing more things that I want. Instead of spending the time farming and grinding, and not really getting done what I'm grinding the gear for to begin with.9 -
Majic✭✭✭✭✭It makes no difference, because...Take away the grind, and what's left?Epopt Of The Everspinning Logo, Church Of The Eternal Loading Screen
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SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We are talking about that male redguard dance are we not?
Well yes khajiit thinks Tamriel would perhaps be less enjoyable without it.
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✭✭✭✭✭It makes no difference, because...I kind of ignore the grind. At any given time I play what I feel like playing when I feel like playing, on the character I feel like playing. Occasionally that will mean that I'll focus on certain content for a while, but with very few exceptions that's not about grinding for gear or anything, it's typically because I want to do that content.
For example, when One Tamriel was about to drop I decided I wanted to get at least 1 decent set of Mother's Sorrow. That drops in Deshaan. Well, lucky for me I've got a number of characters who haven't yet done the Deshaan content, and it had actually been many months since I'd done anything in Deshaan on any character. So I went and did the whole zone on one character who still needed it, and got most of my Mother's Sorrow stuff that way. The rest of what I wanted came from other characters going and doing some stuff in Deshaan (but not the entire zone - I didn't need to). I guess technically you could call that a grind for gear, but really it was just me going and playing some content that I had kind of wanted to play anyway - I just happened to prioritize it higher because some gear that I wanted dropped there.
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Majic✭✭✭✭✭It makes no difference, because...
Those are all forms of grinding.
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UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It makes no difference, because...
I'm so used to doing the male Redguard dance that the other day when I was on a female Redguard character on an alt account I was really surprised at how different it was...SantieClaws wrote: »We are talking about that male redguard dance are we not?
Well yes khajiit thinks Tamriel would perhaps be less enjoyable without it.
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nine9six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, because...Yes. Because "the grind" isn't where the fun is, to me anyway.
Once "the grind" is out of the way I focus on more fun stuff.
Though, typically, I don't grind for stuff.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...3 -
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✭Many shooters have added a grind of some sort, even if just for titles, emblems, and side upgrades. Having a goal which is ultimately what a grind functions as, has been proven to be psychologically motivating.2 -
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✭✭It makes no difference, because...Grinding isn't the reason why I play the game, so if you remove the grind, I would still play in the same way.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It makes no difference, because...
The bold part is definitely true. Personally I don't find the goals artificially set by most grinds to be ones that I'm interested in or that motivate me, but I understand their purpose and how they have that effect for others. And for that matter, some grinds actually do motivate me, it's just uncommon. Most of my goals in video games are silly ones that I set for myself rather than ones set by a grind in the game.Many shooters have added a grind of some sort, even if just for titles, emblems, and side upgrades. Having a goal which is ultimately what a grind functions as, has been proven to be psychologically motivating.
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Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
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Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
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captainwolfos✭✭✭✭Yes, because...Well, yeah. It's TES.Enemy of Boob Plates
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Smashington357✭✭✭Yes, because...Yeah. I've done enough grinding having 9 characters and having deleted at least 9 more. Ofc that was my own choice because i like to try different combos and kept trying them until i found what i liked best for each class But no grind wouldn't upset me in the least.1 -
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✭✭✭✭It makes no difference, because...I play ESO with my beloved. I love the world, but I'm here, sharing it and exploring it with him.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
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RazorCaltrops✭✭✭Yes, because...I play for competitive PVE, and for small scale PVP. Not for being a hamster spinning the endless grind wheel. Just because of this reason the day i see the gear cap increase on patch notes will be the day i quit. Can't imagine grinding even the %10 of my gear again. Total nightmare.PS4 EU3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because...Vipstaakki wrote: »There was never any grind to begin with.
Are you aware of a hellish location called Veteran Maelstrom Arena, and the weapons they drop...? Are you also aware of undaunted monster sets, and dungeon weapons and shields? You've heard of these things, yes?2 -
azoriangaming✭✭✭✭Yes, because...yes the grind is annoying especially as a master crafter and all/most of the crafted gear is useless.6 -
mtwiggz✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because...Not only would I play I would also enjoy my experience more.
Grinding XP, CP, gear, SP, etc are all parts of the game that discourage me from playing.7 -
SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭No, because...Im gonna over generalise but MMO=grind
lets be honest, once youve done somthing once, you generally dont want to have to go and do it again if there is no reason to do it, its the grind that keeps people coming back.
Every MMO ive played since Ultima Online had me hooked cos at the end of the grind there was reward and I knew there wouldnt be too many people with the reward that i'd spent forever trying to achieve and it would put you one step ahead lets say.
If it was faceroll craft whatever you want whenever you want for no materials, nobody would play, be serious ha.Breakfast KingPS4 EU6 -
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✭✭✭✭Yes, because...I've been playing since launch and we have had quite a few patches where there was literally nothing else to do besides PvP and 2 or 3 trials. No need to grind anything, just playing what you like. And it was fine like that.Susano'o
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because...I often hear this crap that when someone finally gets the gear they want, they stop playing. Seriously? That's like saying when you finally buy a house you don't live in it or when you buy a nice car you don't drive it. Maybe I'm different than the 'grinders' but when I get the gear I want I go to Cyrodiil and fun with it, or, just enjoy running around the game devastating everything in my path. There is nothing fun about grinding or an unrewarding loot system.
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✭✭No, because...What is the alternative? Are you suggesting for them to put gear in the crown store. How would you get gear if it didnt come from drops. Too many holes in this topic to have an opinion at this point.***Dixon Kay MagDK FORMER EMPEROR***Deca Dix MagDK FORMER EMPORER***Valonious MagPlar FORMER EMPEROR***
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AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭Yes, because...if there was no grind for cp, for gear, i would gear my toons, and play as i wanted when i wanted rather then burn myself out. constantly trying to gear up ect. when games force me to grind for months to gear 1 toon, sure they get a lot of play out of me in a month, but eventually i get bored and tired of the game and quit it.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
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