Casual:

That guy who lewts every crate and sack in the dungeon.
The tank and healer duo that Don't lead the way, but seem to linger behind.
The guy using a console controller.
Anyone with an accent.
Anyone with a child.
Anyone not a child nor rich.
That girl the guild seems to worship and give free stuff.
That guy who refers to "daedra" as demons, and calls a daedric Titan a dragon.
That group of people that never ever consider soloing anything in pvp.
The people that ask you for a PC (price check) on everything in their inventory.
The people that have 8 lvl 20 characters.
The people that don't know what a mule is.
The people that look up meta builds every patch and just go with that.
The people that perch up on ledges and spawn points in IC.
The person that disappears 2-3 weeks at a time.
etc...


non-casual is a much much shorter list

NativeJoe wrote: »

Casual:
Anyone not a child nor rich.

Sorry

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Casual: Under 20k dps, cannot sustain heals, cannot maintain aggro.

There are some that may argue that 20k DPS is casual

Casual: You have fun playing a game casually.

Hardcore: You do everything possible to get every advantage you can while playing as much as possible.

Please note that neither of these actually make you "skilled". There are plenty of very good casual players and plenty of hardcore players who only live to complain on the forums because their uber-build wasn't as effective for them as it was in a highly edited YouTube video.

Not Orc.

Sengra wrote: »

vladimilianoub17_ESO1 wrote: »

Or,can also be say,casuals are less addicted to the game than hardcores.

I disagree. I'd call myself a casual but I can play like an addict for many hours getting absolutely lost in what I'm doing. I just don't play 'efficiently' (doing only what gives me most XP or gold), and I don't see the game as a competition with other players. I think it's not necessarily what you do and how good you are but why you're doing it.

I agree. I play every chance I get but I recognize that it is only a game and do not compete to be the best and brag about it.

A casual is a player who plays the game for enjoyment.
They may not have the min/max set and tweaks but they also play a few times a week.

They often won't be in any hardcore guilds or hardcore groups
They may be on 3 days this week and 0 to 1 next week.

Here's what wanna be elite players say which is not a casual and has nothing to do with a casual player.
-wanting everything given to them
-wanting easy content
(Insert many other rude assumptions)

I'm a casual and know more about the game and how to play than some who play 6-7 days a week for 3 or more hours a day.
None of that matters, casual is just more so how often they don't play and what they do while playing.

Casual to me means employed with out of game responsibilities and commitments .

this has been a can of worms since WoW was launched, and MMOs became mainstream. In my past mmo no one was labled hardcore or casual. It was elitist, and everyone else. It wasn't untill roughly 2008 did i start seeing "i'm casual". This was formally people who play roughly an hour or so, or 5 hours over the weekends. Players who are not big time gamers* but wanting to try them out, but play lightly.

Casual games are typically candy crush, tetris, bejeweled. Games about playing vs winning or loosing.

Now a days it is so over used, it lost its meaning. People use it as an insult now, the same with calling hardcore gamers "no lives who live in mommies basement." again not something i heard till 2008.

Elitist was at a time the only insulting lable, as it meant someone who thought they was TOO good, and everyone is beneath them. More often then not said players sucked as they didn't play well with others.


To me casual and hardcore are just petty lables, nothing to ware as a badge of honor or shame. We are all gamers playing a game. I don't think anyone should be insulted for personal taste, and play time. As long as you are enjoying the game, who cares?

edit:
The concept of "play for fun" is idiotic, everyone plays games for fun. Fun is a subjective term, your fun may not be the same as my fun. Some people just are more serious, which it is there right to do so. I'll to this day will never understand why people say : " I'm a casual, i just play to have fun" when another person asks them to step it up when doing higher tier content. The same applies to overwatch.. people are going batshit crazy over blizzard choice to add 1hero limit to quickplay mode. the "casual i play for fun" people hate the desision.


I have a question, to those people who say "i'm casual, i play for fun" what is that supose to mean?

I'm a hardcore gamer, my main enjoyment is playing video games second to watching youtube and anime. Most of the anime i watch is gamer related. When i play games, i play to enjoy, master and win, that is my fun. I may not be a theory crafter, or a person who mix/maxes (used to in solo rpg and ended up dying more so i stopped), I may not follow the meta, but i do take content serious enough to give it my all. I don't get upset at death, unless it was a petty death. If i die, i own up to my mistakes and get better.

to me "i'm casual, i play for fun" seems more like an excuse not to take it serious enough, and to not play well. Which does screw over the people you play with.

If it isn't please elaborate.

* edit wrong word

Is "winning" the most important part of the game for you? If no, casual.

lordrichter wrote: »

I used to range across the whole world and now I am stuck in one zone waiting X minutes for the bosses loot to reset. Weee!

I encourage you not to lose sight of the fact that YOU choose your actions.

I know there are people who "log on daily just to do writs and train their horse". I did that for a week before I started hating the game.

Play the game in a way that will bring you enjoyment. If what you are doing is not fun - do something else.

Someone who plays less than 4 hours, 32 minutes and 17 seconds in a week.