Tell me your horror stories of group finder

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · November 2016

Dungeons are easy normally. Although I really despise being the tank/healer (which i normally am) with very bad DPS.

Group finder experience yesterday on Xbox one:
Join vet city of Ash pledge, the group was stuck at ash titan when I joined.

Me stam dk tank(max cp): although haven't played properly in past couple months: had boss taunted constantly, as well as the multiple air atronarchs (spinny things.) Whilst I had to self heal and keep my resources up and DPS.
My dps 15k-20k but could not always attack due to resource management and having to heal, tank etc.

186 dps- mag nightblade, looked like he was ok but still learning and needed better gear, had a better rotation than other 2 but was super squishy and die quickly, due to no healer and I'm guessing wearing all light armour. 10k dps I guess but was dead mostly.

195 healer - was a stamina nightblade, didn't even have vigour slotted. Light attacked with bow(only weapon I saw him use) until assassin proc and reapeat - 2k dps I guess. Also he didn't Rez if others died.

554 dps - Stam sorc with the Centurian pvp title, I thought yay maybe he has dps... nope. He was probably about 5k dps, although he managed to vigour himself and res the other low dps/fake healer. He just stood in the distance with hurricane whilst spamming poison injection and light attacks nothing else, oh he also spammed power surge at least 3 times in 15 secs.

We did it first try but it took ages.. at least 20 min maybe 30 min.
I didn't die but I had to be constantly self healing, attacking, and taunting multiple enemies.

After we beat him, one wrote in chat "good tanking". I wrote "sorry guys don't have time, dps is to low, good luck"
Yes maybe not nice but I know it was impossible to beat Skoria with them in the current setups they all had, also I had to go out too.

Felt I had to vent this. I've had many worse experiences, many better.
But why are people so bad at this game?
Just go in a dungeon spamming light attack, do they not get bored of spamming 1 button?

TLDR - people need to L2P

Mojmir · November 2016

Inb4 "why didn't you hold their hands and teach them".

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · November 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

Inb4 "why didn't you hold their hands and teach them".

Haha most don't want to be taught. We're not worthy

bottleofsyrup · November 2016

For some reason I was in the mood to do a dungeon and decided to do a random vet since I wanted something less easy than random normal. Got matched for Vet Spindleclutch (what is now Vet Spindleclutch II) with two who were in the early to mid CP 100s and the other was maybe 200ish. I think they were stuck on Praxin. The other "DPS" was just standing in the far back spamming light attacks with bow and nothing else. The "healer" was in heavy armor with a resto staff and bow but only spammed weak BoLs and was squishy. She was not a healtank, FYI. The "tank" was only using 2H and spamming Wrecking Blow. They kept wiping on the adds. I didn't even realize I was the only one alive until all the adds were gone. Res'd them and they kept insta-dying on the main boss. I said I wasn't going to spend my whole night here and left. The fake tank whispered me saying, "Haha noob," followed by me reminding him that I wasn't the one wiping repeatedly on a fairly easy boss.

Jeremy · November 2016

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Dungeons are easy normally. Although I really despise being the tank/healer (which i normally am) with very bad DPS.

Group finder experience yesterday on Xbox one:
Join vet city of Ash pledge, the group was stuck at ash titan when I joined.

Me stam dk tank(max cp): although haven't played properly in past couple months: had boss taunted constantly, as well as the multiple air atronarchs (spinny things.) Whilst I had to self heal and keep my resources up and DPS.
My dps 15k-20k but could not always attack due to resource management and having to heal, tank etc.

186 dps- mag nightblade, looked like he was ok but still learning and needed better gear, had a better rotation than other 2 but was super squishy and die quickly, due to no healer and I'm guessing wearing all light armour. 10k dps I guess but was dead mostly.

195 healer - was a stamina nightblade, didn't even have vigour slotted. Light attacked with bow(only weapon I saw him use) until assassin proc and reapeat - 2k dps I guess. Also he didn't Rez if others died.

554 dps - Stam sorc with the Centurian pvp title, I thought yay maybe he has dps... nope. He was probably about 5k dps, although he managed to vigour himself and res the other low dps/fake healer. He just stood in the distance with hurricane whilst spamming poison injection and light attacks nothing else, oh he also spammed power surge at least 3 times in 15 secs.

We did it first try but it took ages.. at least 20 min maybe 30 min.
I didn't die but I had to be constantly self healing, attacking, and taunting multiple enemies.

After we beat him, one wrote in chat "good tanking". I wrote "sorry guys don't have time, dps is to low, good luck"
Yes maybe not nice but I know it was impossible to beat Skoria with them in the current setups they all had, also I had to go out too.

Felt I had to vent this. I've had many worse experiences, many better.
But why are people so bad at this game?
Just go in a dungeon spamming light attack, do they not get bored of spamming 1 button?

TLDR - people need to L2P

To be honest, if you beat Ash Titan and especially the other bosses before that, you could have probably defeated Skoria. He's easier than the other two as it relates to lacking dps. And after all that effort on your part - was a shame not to get the win.

From the sound of it, you got into one of those groups with a dps queuing up as either a healer or a tank to shorten their wait times. Those are the worse - and the one thing about pugs that really irks me.

One time I had a tank who didn't taunt, used a lightning staff and spammed heavy attacks. It was pretty awful. Sounds like your healer was one of those.

But for every bad pug experience I have a half dozen good ones. There are a lot of really awesome players out there who use the dungeon finder. So I would not let a few bad experiences discourage you too much.

xryanvb16_ESO · November 2016

You puged... are you new to gaming? what did you expect?... if you don't like playing with bad players find some good ones and make a static group, like everyone does... or just put up with it and learn some patience, for all you know they were 10 years old or mentally handicapped... maybe blind, playing with one hand? who knows....
You also might not be as good as you think you are... just sayin.

Also your playing on a console... so that was your first mistake.

SolarCat02 · November 2016

I don't really have any nightmare stories from PUGs. I am actually rather surprised by this myself.

I think the worst experience I had was queuing with three guildmates for a tank for veteran Crypt of Hearts (now vCoH2) for a helm run. We ended up with a magicka sorcerer who queued as tank "because I don't have to wait that way" who then trying to tell us how to do the dungeon, but most of his "advice" was from a really bad online guide. He kept murdering me on the spider boss when I would get cocooned by walking the giant lightning AoE under me. (I was healer, so nobody else to heal me through it either). He insisted on doing Hardmode because he had the undaunted quest, but didn't understand how to actually do it, and kept wiping us on purpose when he realized he messed up and killed the ghosts we were trying to keep alive for him again. The whole time he was trying to recruit me to his guild while insulting my guildmates in some sort of Frenchified English. He left right before we were about to finally kick him, so we replaced him with my husband and finished the boss first try.

Fortunately I have only really had issues with one person maximum in each PUG I have run, even with the ones where I queued solo.

Rev Rielle · November 2016

I don't join often, but I've generally had very nice experiences. One in particular was with a group of sub 50 players. All throughout they were very gracious and thankful for me staying and healing them as they'd just had a couple of bad experiences with other's giving them grief due to their low level.

Worse one was probably a while ago where a Nightblade dps kept abusing me that I'm not throwing my blazing spear enough for him. I told him it was primarily for the tank, to which the nightblade replied "well how the $$%k am I supposed to not run out of stamina then?" And for the rest of the dungeon continued to abuse me (and the others when they told them to give it a break). It was rather humorous though for the most part.

I may or may not have been lackluster after that when it came to healing the Nightblade in some battles...

SublimeSparo · November 2016

Me on my 70k health blazing shield build, friend on mag sorc both 561 cp, picked up couple of randoms with intention of just knocking out a vanilla pledge, healer was 400cp the dps 270cp.
Fly through it no problems,
They ask to do dlc pledge- cradle, which i've never tried on blazing tank so instead we go knock out the other vanilla pledge.
Decided to do cradle, don't think either of them had done it before, one definitely hadn't and asked us to explain the mechanics as we went, got to velidreth with no wipes, did hardmode after about 4 or 5 tries.
Even with a language barrier, if people are cooperative and willing to learn even one of the hardest hardmodes in dungeons is easily achievable.
Shock horror.

On topic though i once got group found on my tank into a group that appeared to be 3 low level healers, who somehow couldn't manage to keep each other or themselves alive or do any dps between them... was the only time i've had to leave a pug

FloppyTouch · November 2016

Had a group awhile back that's had a healer werewolf Templar that would use bol spam and when the boss got low would transform into wolf form to help dps -.- they had 250 cp after wipes doing the vet pledge for CoH where we needed to keep 4 wraiths alive we voted to kick.

Play as you want lol

Kirameku · November 2016

vCoH, Ilambris farm. Me, two my friends and heal sorc 23 cp from group finder. No death speedrun. Twice

But this sorc got divines hat =\

Enslaved · November 2016

Group finder horror stories? Here is mine.
It was just few days ago, and it could happen to anyone.
I queued as ~500CP dd for a random vet dungeon.
After a 30 minutes or so, game found me vICP.
I hit the key and traveled to it. I was first one to get in.
As soon as I arrived, I opened chat and /p "hello guys".
Not a single one answered.
Few seconds later, all of them spawned at the entrance.
MFW everyone was a scary spooky skeleton..

Brix were ***.

dpencil · November 2016

I pug alot, like almost every time I do a pledge. Yes some groups have wiped a bunch on Skoria or WGT, but usually things go by with no issue. I don't get mad at my fellow puggers. Not everyone has the same experience and that's ok. The other day I had to show my team where the Harness Magicka skill was so they could shield up a little in the Skoria fight. I walked them through the procedure, we refined our technique, and about the 5th time they all had a good rhythm and we cleared the fight to much cheering by all of them.

My worst experience was on WGT with a group that absolutely blew threw the dungeon, no wipes, quick clears all the way to Kena. Then it was just endless wipes. The healer left and we got a worse healer as a replacement. The tank left and we got a worse tank as a replacement. Yes it was frustrating, but it's a hard fight. I may not pug dlc dungeons much anymore because the content is more involved, but the non-dlcs are fine to pug with.

Granted, I am a mag sorc built to solo vet dungeons, so I am fully self-sufficient and will usually carry my group regardless of whether the other members are good or not. I could probably relate to the pug frustration more if I really felt like I had to rely on my group members to do something. Thankfully, that is not the case.

Julianos · November 2016

I hate people like they think they know the tactics but they have no clue and talkin like a little female dogs and blaming other players with thier *** tanking or 20k dps

Vaoh · November 2016

This is a real group finder horror story. Definitely the worst I've experienced before and it really annoyed me as well.

I'm a Magicka Sorc DPS with max CP, great gear, and a flawless rotation. The very best you could ever dream of pairing up with through group finder. I choose to do use the group finder sometimes to help others get through "tough" content cause I'm nice

So a couple days ago I queued for Vet Imperial City Prison (pledge). My groupmates were a CP351 DPS, a CP411 Healer, and a CP261 Tank. Everyone showed up to the dungeon as usual. Our tank needed to repair armor though (-_-) so he ported out.

We waited almost 5min then continued without the tank. I lead the way and we burned down all of the adds before the first boss - The Overfiend. By this point it was worth noting that I was pulling at least 75% or more of the DPS, and I knew that if I died at any point during this run, we would likely wipe.

After 10min total our tank shows up. I ask via text chat (all communication was through text chat) if everyone knows the mechanics to The Overfiend - its a resounding yes.

Essentially we fought the boss as usual until The Overfiend killed our tank. It came after me next and I was forced to hold aggro until the tank was picked up. This took a long time as the players were obviously inexperienced. Finally our tank rezzed but then seemingly forgot to taunt the boss since I held aggro for a good 15 seconds longer until I died. We then wiped.

I messaged Group for the tank to remember to taunt when rezzed and that it was cool and how we'd definitely beat the boss this next run. He then writes back "I was" and then aggroes the boss asap. We ended up killing the first boss in a wild attempt where the other DPS was always down and I often had to take hits from The Overfiend (nevermind how our tank never taunted adds). Tbh we only killed it because of me carrying the team. As the boss died our tank very aggressively says through his mic "I DID tank see. Wtf! Blame the tank.... Do your damn job".

We progressed to the second boss - Ibomez the Flesh Sculptor. In short, I explained mechanics to the healer and DPS since they were new to the dungeon. We wiped multiple times, finally killing the second boss thanks to my explanations. The tank complained to the healer during this time. Our healer was not even bad.

The third boss, Gravelight Sentry, required little explanation and died easily enough. The tank died at 50% health. I soloed the boss from 20% health.

The fourth boss, The Abomination, had us wipe many times. I explained mechanics in detail while the tank continued to complain constantly at our healer whilst playing horrible himself. He was very toxic at this point but I wanted to help him finish the pledge rather than kick him.

Finally we got to the Lord Warden and wiped countless times even though we got the boss to 10% health once. Our tank blamed everyone but himself and was extremely hostile to anything that even remotely suggested he was wrong, cussing out the healer.

That's when I flat out told him he was the one at fault, that he needed to stop making excuses for playing like s***, and that he needed to get over himself. He got angry because I was the clear leader and carrier of the group, so he started cussing out a lot then aggroed the boss to be a jerk, so I finally kicked him.

I offered to solo the Lord Warden but the other two PUGs wanted to bring in a real tank, so I said okay. This tank was CP366. Turns out the Healer and DPS were tired though because they started dying a lot. I decided enough was enough and soloed Lord Warden Hard Mode from 76% health, and was thanked a bunch by my group.

Personally I felt as if my time spent helping others was wasted because of individuals like that CP261 tank. Haven't PUGed through group finder since.

That's my story. It was an extremely toxic run. I tried my best to teach the weaker players but it only took one a**hole to ruin it all....

Probably one of my worst experiences in ESO. Can't say I'll spend 2hrs that way ever again.

Julianos · November 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

This is a real group finder horror story. Definitely the worst I've experienced before and it really annoyed me as well.

I'm a Magicka Sorc DPS with max CP, great gear, and a flawless rotation. The very best you could ever dream of pairing up with through group finder. I choose to do use the group finder sometimes to help others get through "tough" content cause I'm nice

So a couple days ago I queued for Vet Imperial City Prison (pledge). My groupmates were a CP351 DPS, a CP411 Healer, and a CP261 Tank. Everyone showed up to the dungeon as usual. Our tank needed to repair armor though (-_-) so he ported out.

We waited almost 5min then continued without the tank. I lead the way and we burned down all of the adds before the first boss - The Overfiend. By this point it was worth noting that I was pulling at least 75% or more of the DPS, and I knew that if I died at any point during this run, we would likely wipe.

After 10min total our tank shows up. I ask via text chat (all communication was through text chat) if everyone knows the mechanics to The Overfiend - its a resounding yes.

Essentially we fought the boss as usual until The Overfiend killed our tank. It came after me next and I was forced to hold aggro until the tank was picked up. This took a long time. Finally our tank rezzed but then seemingly forgot to taunt the boss since I held aggro for a good 15 seconds longer until I died. We then wiped.

I messaged Group for the tank to remember to taunt when rezzed and that it was cool and how we'd definitely beat the boss this next run. He then writes back "I was" and then aggroes the boss asap. We ended up killing the first boss in a wild attempt where the other DPS was always down and I often had to take hits from The Overfiend (nevermind the tank never taunting any adds). Tbh we only killed it because of me carrying the team. As the boss died oue tank very aggressively says through his mic "I DID tank see. Wtf! Blame the tank. Do your damn job"

We progressed to the second boss - Ibomez the Flesh Sculptor. In short, I explained mechanics to the healer and DPS since they were new to the dungeon. We wiped multiple times, and then we killed the second boss thanks to my explanations. The tank conplained to the healer during this time.

The third boss, Gravelight Sentry, required little explanation and died easily enough.

The fourth boss, The Abomination, had us wipe many times. I explained mechanics in detail and the tank complained constantly to the healer whilst playing horrible himself. He was very toxic at this point but I wanted to help him finish th pledge rather than kick him.

Finally we got to the Lord Warden and wiped countless time even though we got the boss to 10% health. Our tank blamed everyone but himself and was extremely hostile to anything that remotely suggested he was wrong, cussing out the healer.

That's when I flat out told him he was the one at fault, that he needed to stop making excuses for playing like s***, and that he needed to get over himself. He got angry because I was the clear leader of carrier of the group, so he started cussing out and laughing and aggroed the boss to be a jerk, so I finally kicked him.

I offered to solo the Lord Warden but they wanted to bring in a real tank, so I said okay. This tank was CP366. Turns out the Healer and DPS were tored now because they were dying a lot now. I decided enough was enough and soloed Lord Warden Hard Mode from 76% health, and was thanked by my group. Personally I felt as if my time spent helping others was wasted because of individuals like that CP261 tank. Haven't PUGed through group finder since.

That's my story. It was an extremely toxic run. I tried my best to teach the weaker players but it only took one a**hole to ruin it all....

Probably one of my worst experiences in ESO.

You should just leave the dungeon those people dont worth your time they come without any preperation without any effort for the group and they blame you or get angry to you they can burn idc.

RiddleDiddle · November 2016

If i do not get either a insta disband, people who only light attack spam, people who do not queue into their role or people who are bming or being arrogant as hell I have a pretty good experience with the dungeon finder.

Okay i must admit.... this sounded pretty negative, but all in all i barely get those queues, most of my dungeon finders are fun and people that i am queued in are talk-active and really fun and helpful.

Had the most fun, try to set your mind into other things and you will see your game experience will be a lot better.
If you ever queue again into those kinds of groups, know that the perfect group is waiting for you.

Greetings from,

RiddleDiddle the advice Horker

bottleofsyrup · November 2016

Jeremy wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Dungeons are easy normally. Although I really despise being the tank/healer (which i normally am) with very bad DPS.

Group finder experience yesterday on Xbox one:
Join vet city of Ash pledge, the group was stuck at ash titan when I joined.

Me stam dk tank(max cp): although haven't played properly in past couple months: had boss taunted constantly, as well as the multiple air atronarchs (spinny things.) Whilst I had to self heal and keep my resources up and DPS.
My dps 15k-20k but could not always attack due to resource management and having to heal, tank etc.

186 dps- mag nightblade, looked like he was ok but still learning and needed better gear, had a better rotation than other 2 but was super squishy and die quickly, due to no healer and I'm guessing wearing all light armour. 10k dps I guess but was dead mostly.

195 healer - was a stamina nightblade, didn't even have vigour slotted. Light attacked with bow(only weapon I saw him use) until assassin proc and reapeat - 2k dps I guess. Also he didn't Rez if others died.

554 dps - Stam sorc with the Centurian pvp title, I thought yay maybe he has dps... nope. He was probably about 5k dps, although he managed to vigour himself and res the other low dps/fake healer. He just stood in the distance with hurricane whilst spamming poison injection and light attacks nothing else, oh he also spammed power surge at least 3 times in 15 secs.

We did it first try but it took ages.. at least 20 min maybe 30 min.
I didn't die but I had to be constantly self healing, attacking, and taunting multiple enemies.

After we beat him, one wrote in chat "good tanking". I wrote "sorry guys don't have time, dps is to low, good luck"
Yes maybe not nice but I know it was impossible to beat Skoria with them in the current setups they all had, also I had to go out too.

Felt I had to vent this. I've had many worse experiences, many better.
But why are people so bad at this game?
Just go in a dungeon spamming light attack, do they not get bored of spamming 1 button?

TLDR - people need to L2P

To be honest, if you beat Ash Titan and especially the other bosses before that, you could have probably defeated Skoria. He's easier than the other two as it relates to lacking dps. And after all that effort on your part - was a shame not to get the win.

From the sound of it, you got into one of those groups with a dps queuing up as either a healer or a tank to shorten their wait times. Those are the worse - and the one thing about pugs that really irks me.

One time I had a tank who didn't taunt, used a lightning staff and spammed heavy attacks. It was pretty awful. Sounds like your healer was one of those.

But for every bad pug experience I have a half dozen good ones. There are a lot of really awesome players out there who use the dungeon finder. So I would not let a few bad experiences discourage you too much.

Lol, I just had someone do the exact same thing in a pledge the other night. Are you on PC?

mildlylucid · November 2016

Had a few. (I tank).
Elden Hollow II, come in as a replacement at the final boss. Took 24 minutes because of the damage shield, wasn't even hard mode.

Doing vWGT pledge with me and 2 mates (tank, heal and dps). We're decent but not good enough to 3man the dungeon. First dps gets us to the planar inhibitor. We wiped a few times, and he didn't close the portals even after we told him to. His dps was pretty average only doing ~15% of the group's dps.
With the next dps we breeze through to Kena, he did decent dps but kept dying (running into damage stuff). He left the group saying he didn't think he had enough dps.
Third dps, shows up but none of us can see him. We decide to just give it a go because who knows he might not die. We wipe, so we tell him that none of us can see him, so he needs to tp on one of us to fix it. We waste ~1min waiting for him to do this, eventually kicking him after he just indicates that he's ready to go. He then breaks his silence to say "losers".
Dps #4, keeps dying. Notice that their hp is pretty low (as was their dps). Said "you got food on?". Response: "What's food?".

The healer gives him some food, but it didn't really improve his survivability. Give it a few more goes, but he just doesn't have the damage or survivability so we kick him.
So 4 dps and ~2 hours into the dungeon and we're starting to think that the issue might actually be us. Decide to get a guildmate to come help us. The new dps dies once, and we clear the boss in under 10 minutes. Hardest 2 keys of my life.

Here's a funny one. Was doing Volenfell, same mates as above. The random dps was reasonably low level and wasn't really doing that much of the group's dps. Get to the final boss and he says "Don't worry if you die, I can solo this". We have a wee giggle at this and go and fight the boss. Few seconds in the red boss chases him and he dies and says "lol or not". Classic soloing kappa.

XpoZeD_GoD · November 2016

I have so many that I can list here, the group finder tool gives me just as bad RNG as the Undaunted Chests. I was doing White Gold Tower yesterday, I ran it a few times and the worst one was on my Nightblade tank, I was the only CP character in at the start and against the Adjudicator I was the only one with lockpicks (I had 5). When we finally got to the Planar Inhibitor I was one of 3 CP players as 2 of the guys left. I was the only one who used the pinion and was even bashing it to get the team's attention.
Another run a while back was on Ruins of Mazzatun, I was the only player above 15. We did not finish it.

Dubhliam · November 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

Inb4 "why didn't you hold their hands and teach them".

The obvious answer is: because he would only get yelled at for "belittling" them.

Mordred101 · November 2016

It's so sad that although group finder is functionally 'fixed' the people are ruining it. One Tamriel has really brought out the worst in it.

If you queue as DPS you should be doing DPS. You should not be casting practiced incantation, you should not be casting barrier.

The casual skyrim player grouping for dungeons should not be standing 30 meters back, outside of healing range spamming snipe.

Spamming dizzying swings is better than the others listed above, but maybe try to work in some self buffs, debuffs or even light attacks. You don't need elite animation canceling, but just weaving in some light attacks would be helpful.

If you queue as the tank in Darkshade Caverns, hold the aggro. I had three separate occasions where one of the alit bosses would be drawn too far way from their area and they'd reset.

At first I was queuing as DPS and thought that maybe if I log onto my healer and try to complete the content like that it'd be easier. Wrong ... at least as a DPS I can more easily carry a group.

These aren't people that don't understand the mechanics of the dungeons, these are people that just don't understand what a MMO is. My time is too valuable to spend two hours running through a dungeon and explaining to people how to play.

I need to find a PVE guild. This has been way too depressing. Used to be you could find some great groups in group finder ... doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

Argah · November 2016

I joined at that part yesterday as a tank first time doing the dungeon, I got killed quickly as didn't know what was going on got resed and we done it easily when I realised what not to do but we got to a part you fight lots of things then a main guy with what seemed like unlimited storm attrochnates I guessed the point was kill the sorcerer so I was letting them kill him getting all the big ones to chase me and everyone still kept dying, dunno if I wasn't doing it right or something but the team gave up after 3 wipes.

RiddleDiddle · November 2016

Argah wrote: »

I joined at that part yesterday as a tank.....

And you didn't bother asking for the fight mechanics? Or asked anything at all?
Didn't tell them it's your first time tanking this?

My advice: "Asking things will help you out a lot and telling everyone what's up".
Helps with the gaming experience.

Greetings from,

RiddleDiddle the advice Horker

Argah · November 2016

There was another I attempted for first time yesterday big mechanical spider 4 levers and poisonous gas I was surviving gas with conj blood trying to figure out if levers stopped gas but my team kept dying, what was going on there?

Argah · November 2016

RiddleDiddle wrote: »

Argah wrote: »

I joined at that part yesterday as a tank.....

And you didn't bother asking for the fight mechanics? Or asked anything at all?
Didn't tell them it's your first time tanking this?

My advice: "Asking things will help you out a lot and telling everyone what's up".
Helps with the gaming experience.

Greetings from,

RiddleDiddle the advice Horker

You may be unaware but communication using groupfinder on ps4 is non existent.

Enslaved · November 2016

I might be slow or something, but isn't it easier to see how dungeon works on yt or something before you actually enter in one and make your and everybody else's time spent in there miserable? Especially if you cannot communicate with your team due to screwed system?

Or you just maybe hate spoilers? Idk, I dislike re-inventing wheel myself.

Argah · November 2016

Maybe for you I tend to do things in games before they even hit youtube the fun is in figuring it out yourself not copy pasting someone else's tactics.

Argah · November 2016

But suppose that's what has ruined this generation everyone wanting the same build and to do things the same way they saw a guy on youtube do it or your doing it wrong.

Enslaved · November 2016

Well, I guess that is ok. Not sure if best to do so with complete random group of ppl, but ok.

akl77 · November 2016

Pug group = lots of time spent + lots of soul gems spent.