@f047ys3v3n I'm really interested in the idea of housing, I' be willing to play this game for weeks with all my spare time if I could acquire something bigger, such as castle, although that feels like more of a Guild thing. Reading your post gave a concern though, 5 million gold? That is an extremely large amount of gold to have, I understand people have money like that, but is that normal? I find myself struggling to make gold and I'm almost champ level 100. I feel like I have truly fallen behind if everyone's rich such as yourself.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Bed of Kagrenac's Hope lol

I can see the advertising slogan now.

"Sleep so soundly, you'll be out of bed 25% faster every morning!"

Crown store will be full of crown-only furniture etc soon. Yaaaaaay.

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

I'm afraid to watch, until we find out if they will go through with casino crates as the higher-ups have been pushing for. I am too afraid that all the cool housing stuff will be locked behind forced gambling and the whale with the biggest paycheck is the only one who gets to enjoy all it has to offer.

The only question I am really interested in at this point is "will housing be kept completely separate from the gambling boxes."

If not I may just be done.

My thoughts exactly. Of course Matt Firor is all "Oh, don't worry, this is all for in-game gold only!!!!" but we've already seen how they will say crap like that to make it all sound awesome, and then by the time they actually implement it in the game? Nope.

Besides, we've already seen housing items from crown-crates in the datamining threads and post, so clearly they are not separate even at this stage.

Housing item is not samething as House right i personal dont care if the sell housing item in crown store as long as i can build and make my own furniture ingame for at some point ZoS need to put thing in game that is money sicker for atm we dont have much of those item atm i have more gold in my bank that know what i can do with.

Hazel_knox wrote: »

@f047ys3v3n I'm really interested in the idea of housing, I' be willing to play this game for weeks with all my spare time if I could acquire something bigger, such as castle, although that feels like more of a Guild thing. Reading your post gave a concern though, 5 million gold? That is an extremely large amount of gold to have, I understand people have money like that, but is that normal? I find myself struggling to make gold and I'm almost champ level 100. I feel like I have truly fallen behind if everyone's rich such as yourself.

I do not think it is at all normal. I have played since beta, had 8 hirelings when hirelings dropped gold mats and so I am still using those mats and have thereby avoided the super high prices to keep in gold gear. I also did very well selling gold trials jewelry when the trials were revamped. I did once know a guy with 36 million but few have more than 2-3 million even among the old timers and those who theory craft are often flat broke. However, when compared to the guys in Rawl selling and buying on the rock I would be a piker. Their club doesn't even let you in until 10 mill.

I do expect that houses will land at, or over, 1M for the big one though. Given that maxing out bank space is something like 750k and I expect that one of the main purposes of housing will be storage, I expect it to be quite pricey. It will also be the only genuine gold sink in the game as mounts were really removed from this by the crown store and people only buy bank space once. Also, the amount that end game raiders want a dps dummy cannot be overstated. We really cannot work on builds, test equipment, and assess buffs in any kind of efficient manner without one. People will pay for that.

I nice bonus effect of substantial housing costs should be a decrease in cost of gold mats and pots which, given the dearth of other expenditures, have inflated to uber bubble levels. It is around a half million gold for a set of gold gear now which is pretty high in terms of the man hours to generate that.

I understand this game isn't Skyrim, but in the Hearthfire dlc where you could build your own home, you could have flower beds where you could grow alchemy ingredients (in a greenhouse type room in the house; butterflies and bugs were in there as well).
Although a greenhouse section is perhaps unlikely, flower beds where you could grow your own alchemy reagents, which could be harvested once a day maybe seeing as there is no alchemy hireling, would be nice.

Ilsabet wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

If the housing is account wide yes does that mean only one house? Will you be able to have a house and the apartment you can get with a quest?

Apparently it's possible to obtain multiple dwellings.

Edit: Finally just watched the video.

Yeah you can own multiple rooms/houses and they're all account-based so any of your characters can visit or live in any of the houses.

Wouldn't it be awesome if your alts can be seen roaming your house as NPC type characters?

Hopefully they aren't race restricted. I'm a breton and I'd love to have a house in auridon

Have you all seen that mammoth castle house in glenumbra. Seriously, go to the place south-west of the harborage where that big peninsula connects to the mainland. There is a castle there that is labeled as one of the new player houses. It is bigger than the kings castle in daggerfall. Man that thing is something. Looks like it has plenty big a courtyard for all those DPS dummies I better be getting. It has quite a view of the harbor as well. I hope the next PTS server updade lets us buy all these things for 1 gold and gives us a map of where they are. I want to do some house shopping.

They need to be careful. DAoC did housing and let you have crafting stations and merchants in your house. What it did was turn every major city into a ghost town as there was very little reason to go there unless you had a quest taking you there. Everyone sat in their own house of convenience which killed any atmosphere in cities. I just hope this doesn't end up with the same.

Though having the option to buy a porch and a consignment merchant had some interesting effects on the economy.

Stopnaggin wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

So what can we actually do with the houses? Is it just a room/building you can decorate or do they have any practical use?

The only MMO I played with housing was Ultima Online where it was mainly a place to store/display your stuff (people would do crazy things, like arranging dyed cloth bolts and boxes to look like everything from a piano to a jacuzzi) and you could buy merchant NPCs to sell stuff to passing players. But none of that will work with instanced housing.

My only other experience of in-game housing is the single-player TES games where I mainly used it as a place to store stuff I wanted to keep but didn't want to carry around, and games like Zelda where you have a house right from the start but will probably never go back there after the game gets going.

As far as I can see these houses are basically a private instance which you can decorate. So I get the appeal for RPers and there's some novelty value for everyone else but I wouldn't expect this level of excitement from people on this forum unless there was more too it, which makes me think I'm missing something.

Fable had housing and you could display trophy and such. You had to build the house, you had to build additions, it was actually pretty cool.
At least I think it was fable.

In Fable you could display trophies, but it was Skyrim's Hearthfire where you built your own house with extensions.

Egonieser wrote: »

This almost sounds too good to be true. What's the catch? I have a feeling that it will never be 100% in-game gold based, maybe only initially. Eventually things will start appearing on Crown Store... And I know i'm probably right, but feel free to disagree.

The catch? It is highly likely that the massive Daggerfall castle will be one of the six Crown Store offerings, and not one of the 30 in-game Gold offerings.

Phinix1 wrote: »

I'm afraid to watch, until we find out if they will go through with casino crates as the higher-ups have been pushing for. I am too afraid that all the cool housing stuff will be locked behind forced gambling and the whale with the biggest paycheck is the only one who gets to enjoy all it has to offer.

The only question I am really interested in at this point is "will housing be kept completely separate from the gambling boxes."

If not I may just be done.

May as well quit now then. While they said everything can be done with gold, you should know crates will get some premium itema

Enodoc wrote: »

The catch? It is highly likely that the massive Daggerfall castle will be one of the six Crown Store offerings, and not one of the 30 in-game Gold offerings.

My biggest worry, here is this very nice house for 5M gold. 1 month later, here is a better one for 10000 crowns. 5M gold has a, less than following the user agreement, value of $825. 10,000 crowns is $100 which you probably spend on your subscription anyway. It would be the glass motif troll to the tenth power. ZOS has not been very attentive to their economy in general and has also been very secretive as a general policy. I just really hope I don't get bilked out of my spending power with a big housing gold sink only to get trolled by a crown store money grab right after. In other words, if you going to do crown housing as well, do it the same day as housing and let us make the decision. I'm not against crown housing at all. I just want to actually see my options.