Has zenimax commented on the training/prosperous problem?

disintegr8 · October 2016

I have not read any replies, only the opening post, and I do not believe that ZOS think this is a problem.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3436169#Comment_3436169

There are some charts posted by Rich Lambert in the above thread, showing that drop chance (in undaunted chests) on all traits is pretty even, so there mustn't be anything wrong.

Jaronking · October 2016

Destyran wrote: »

What about the Vmsa rest staff problem. I got 3 defending fromweekly and 5 resto in a row. My guildies get the same resto after resto. You cant tell me this is rng. Make it hard again and give us only sharpened precise.

Make it only drop sharped precise nirn and defending and I'll run it 15 times a day.

Jaronking · October 2016

disintegr8 wrote: »

I have not read any replies, only the opening post, and I do not believe that ZOS think this is a problem.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3436169#Comment_3436169

There are some charts posted by Rich Lambert in the above thread, showing that drop chance (in undaunted chests) on all traits is pretty even, so there mustn't be anything wrong.

Tbh I think that chart could be BS to not get people upset I could make a chart saying anything.

Mojmir · October 2016

Only comment I've seen is Rich's BS graph.

Synfaer · October 2016

Very clever by ZOS, they have given us the means to get our helms a lot easier, but the chances of getting the traits we want is a lot lower which more or less keeps us grinding away the for same amount of time thinking ZOS has done good giving us a 100% drop rate...
Its not till later that we realize they were handing out free pineapples.

disintegr8 · October 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

Only comment I've seen is Rich's BS graph.

I'm not commenting in whether the graph is BS or not, just using it as evidence that ZOS do not accept this as an issue with drop rate of traits.

alexkdd99 · October 2016

susmitds wrote: »

Curragraigue wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Curragraigue wrote: »

Says to me that ZOS thinks the only end game is Trials. People doing undaunted and PvP must grind and people doing trials get a free pass on junk gear.

Well to be fair, most of what people call endgame is the trials. It's still crap though

So PvP is not end game? Group Dungeons are not end game? Arenas are not end game?

It is like ZOS are going back in time to thinking that Craglorn group content for a TES brand game is what people playing this game will want for end game. I like that we have trials in the game as an option to do and they are fun when you can get 12 people together but the fact is for a game like this to think that Trials are the only end game content is missing the market of people that want to play this game.

Group dungeons are not end game. Arenas are though.

And the concept of endgame is not valid for PvP at all.

They are all end game. Any activity that you play after beating all the previous main missions is end game.

Pvp is kind of end game depending on when you decide to start and what your objective is.

As far as group dungeons though they are definitely end game. Maybe not the hardest end game but they are still end game content.

GrumpyDuckling · October 2016

Infinite12 wrote: »

Any word from ZOS about training and prosperous dropping on max level gear everywhere? I'm tired of getting max level undaunted sets with these terrible trails. Is ZOS going to remove then from the loot table for max level gear? Or do they even care?

I believe ZOS mentioned that armor traits are likely being reevaluated in update 13. I can't remember if they posted it on the reddit Q&A that Gina linked on the forums, or if it was on the Bethesda Youtube channel (maybe both).

My guess is that training/prosperous will be revised - which is why they have yet to be removed from certain items. I'm not deconstructing any training/prosperous drops, yet, just in case.

Synfaer · October 2016

My guess is that training/prosperous will be revised - which is why they have yet to be removed from certain items. I'm not deconstructing any training/prosperous drops, yet, just in case.

Just PM me if you do, I have a small mountain of the stuff you can have.

cbjr73 · October 2016

I just got 3 Medium Shadowrend shoulders in Training...in a row.

Posted a discussion with a screenshot about it.

I think they need to take another look at their loot data and settings.

Katahdin · October 2016

Yep I opened 5 wrothar coffers today.

I got 3 briarhart armor pieces, 2 blue and purple and a purple sword
All were CP160 which is awesome but....

ALL 3 armor pieces were well fitted.... ALL THREE!
The sword was defending

Ive gotten a bunch from chests, most are infused or sturdy, Ive had some prosperous and I think a few training as well

I have tons of CP150 divines from before the 1T update, cant get any in CP160 after the update

Synfaer · October 2016

I was chatting with a guildy the other night and he was convinced the RNG seed was linked to your logon IP and thus could be manipulated by repeated logging.

I think its a load of malarky myself, but i'm interested to hear from anyone else who's heard about this?

SublimeSparo · October 2016

Synfaer wrote: »

I was chatting with a guildy the other night and he was convinced the RNG seed was linked to your logon IP and thus could be manipulated by repeated logging.

I think its a load of malarky myself, but i'm interested to hear from anyone else who's heard about this?

I thought it was mac address based but tested that an failed miserablly
(My friend has his ps4 at mine and literally gets sharpened vma weapons about 1/3 of the time, i have never got a single one ever from the chest.)
I tried on his machine rather than mine for like 4 runs and got the usual decisive and charged crap.
Think its account based as none of my 9 chars i've farmed it on ever get sharpened weapons, i actually submitted a bug report because with the amount of runs i've done the chances of never pulling a single sharpened weapon of any kind are absurdly low, yet i managed a streak of 8 or 9 charged in a row.

Izaki · October 2016

Curragraigue wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Curragraigue wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Curragraigue wrote: »

Says to me that ZOS thinks the only end game is Trials. People doing undaunted and PvP must grind and people doing trials get a free pass on junk gear.

Well to be fair, most of what people call endgame is the trials. It's still crap though

So PvP is not end game? Group Dungeons are not end game? Arenas are not end game?

It is like ZOS are going back in time to thinking that Craglorn group content for a TES brand game is what people playing this game will want for end game. I like that we have trials in the game as an option to do and they are fun when you can get 12 people together but the fact is for a game like this to think that Trials are the only end game content is missing the market of people that want to play this game.

Group dungeons are not end game. Arenas are though.

And the concept of endgame is not valid for PvP at all.

Sounds like a very subjective determination of what you think end game means. PvP is of itself end game for some people.

For SOME people. Trials are endgame for everyone. You can PvP at lvl10. You can do 4mans at lvl 10. You can do MSA at lvl10.
All the stuff thats only accessible on vet or has leaderboards for CP160 is endgame.